Michael Meacher joins RI (Brilliant piece from a brave man)

by **antiaristo** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:23 am

Continuation from <a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm23.showMessageRange?topicID=65.topic&start=61&stop=64">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...61&stop=64</a> ====================  Britain now faces its own blowback Intelligence interests may thwart the July bombings investigation Michael Meacher Saturday September 10, 2005 The Guardian The videotape of the suicide bomber Mohammad Sidique Khan has switched the focus of the London bombings away from the establishment view of brainwashed, murderous individuals and highlighted a starker political reality. While there can be no justification for horrific killings of this kind, they need to be understood against the ferment of the last decade radicalising Muslim youth of Pakistani origin living in Europe. During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, the US funded large numbers of jihadists through Pakistan's secret intelligence service, the ISI. Later the US wanted to raise another jihadi corps, again using proxies, to help Bosnian Muslims fight to weaken the Serb government's hold on Yugoslavia. Those they turned to included Pakistanis in Britain. According to a recent report by the Delhi-based Observer Research Foundation, a contingent was also sent by the Pakistani government, then led by Benazir Bhutto, at the request of the Clinton administration. This contingent was formed from the Harkat-ul- Ansar (HUA) terrorist group and trained by the ISI. The report estimates that about 200 Pakistani Muslims living in the UK went to Pakistan, trained in HUA camps and joined the HUA's contingent in Bosnia. Most significantly, this was "with the full knowledge and complicity of the British and American intelligence agencies". As the 2002 Dutch government report on Bosnia makes clear, the US provided a green light to groups on the state department list of terrorist organisations, including the Lebanese-based Hizbullah, to operate in Bosnia - an episode that calls into question the credibility of the subsequent "war on terror". For nearly a decade the US helped Islamist insurgents linked to Chechnya, Iran and Saudi Arabia destabilise the former Yugoslavia. The insurgents were also allowed to move further east to Kosovo. By the end of the fighting in Bosnia there were tens of thousands of Islamist insurgents in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo; many then moved west to Austria, Germany and Switzerland. Less well known is evidence of the British government's relationship with a wider Islamist terrorist network. During an interview on Fox TV this summer, the former US federal prosecutor John Loftus reported that British intelligence had used the al-Muhajiroun group in London to recruit Islamist militants with British passports for the war against the Serbs in Kosovo. Since July Scotland Yard has been interested in an alleged member of al-Muhajiroun, Haroon Rashid Aswat, who some sources have suggested could have been behind the London bombings. According to Loftus, Aswat was detained in Pakistan after leaving Britain, but was released after 24 hours. He was subsequently returned to Britain from Zambia, but has been detained solely for extradition to the US, not for questioning about the London bombings. Loftus claimed that Aswat is a British-backed double agent, pursued by the police but protected by MI6. One British Muslim of Pakistani origin radicalised by the civil war in Yugoslavia was LSE-educated Omar Saeed Sheikh. He is now in jail in Pakistan under sentence of death for the killing of the US journalist Daniel Pearl in 2002 - although many (including Pearl's widow and the US authorities) doubt that he committed the murder. However, reports from Pakistan suggest that Sheikh continues to be active from jail, keeping in touch with friends and followers in Britain. Sheikh was recruited as a student by Jaish-e-Muhammad (Army of Muhammad), which operates a network in Britain. It has actively recruited Britons from universities and colleges since the early 1990s, and has boasted of its numerous British Muslim volunteers. Investigations in Pakistan have suggested that on his visits there Shehzad Tanweer, one of the London suicide bombers, contacted members of two outlawed local groups and trained at two camps in Karachi and near Lahore. Indeed the network of groups now being uncovered in Pakistan may point to senior al-Qaida operatives having played a part in selecting members of the bombers' cell. The Observer Research Foundation has argued that there are even "grounds to suspect that the [London] blasts were orchestrated by Omar Sheikh from his jail in Pakistan". Why then is Omar Sheikh not being dealt with when he is already under sentence of death? Astonishingly his appeal to a higher court against the sentence was adjourned in July for the 32nd time and has since been adjourned indefinitely. This is all the more remarkable when this is the same Omar Sheikh who, at the behest of General Mahmood Ahmed, head of the ISI, wired $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, the leading 9/11 hijacker, before the New York attacks, as confirmed by Dennis Lormel, director of FBI's financial crimes unit. Yet neither Ahmed nor Omar appears to have been sought for questioning by the US about 9/11. Indeed, the official 9/11 Commission Report of July 2004 sought to downplay the role of Pakistan with the comment: "To date, the US government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance" - a statement of breathtaking disingenuousness. All this highlights the resistance to getting at the truth about the 9/11 attacks and to an effective crackdown on the forces fomenting terrorist bombings in the west, including Britain. The extraordinary US forbearance towards Omar Sheikh, its restraint towards the father of Pakistan's atomic bomb, Dr AQ Khan, selling nuclear secrets to Iran, Libya and North Korea, the huge US military assistance to Pakistan and the US decision last year to designate Pakistan as a major non-Nato ally in south Asia all betoken a deeper strategic set of goals as the real priority in its relationship with Pakistan. These might be surmised as Pakistan providing sizeable military contingents for Iraq to replace US troops, or Pakistani troops replacing Nato forces in Afghanistan. Or it could involve the use of Pakistani military bases for US intervention in Iran, or strengthening Pakistan as a base in relation to India and China. Whether the hunt for those behind the London bombers can prevail against these powerful political forces remains to be seen. Indeed it may depend on whether Scotland Yard, in its attempts to uncover the truth, can prevail over MI6, which is trying to cover its tracks and in practice has every opportunity to operate beyond the law under the cover of national security. · Michael Meacher is the Labour MP for Oldham West and Royton; he was environment minister from 1997 to 2003. <a href="http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9115,1566919,00.html">politics.guardian.co.uk/c...19,00.html</a> ps I don't know if it is significant but look at the e-mail Meacher gives: massonm@parliament.uk Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=antiaristo>antiaristo</A> at: 9/10/05 7:36 am

by **DrDebugDU** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:45 am

I've googled his name and he is a former minister. And he is conspiracy theorist as well and ridiculed by the government of course. This man has guts. Another story from Meacher <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Meacher Sparks Fury Over Claims on September 11 and Iraq War Fury over Meacher claims by Ewen MacAskill Michael Meacher, who served as a minister for six years until three months ago, today goes further than any other mainstream British politician in blaming the Iraq war on a US desire for domination of the Gulf and the world. Mr Meacher, a leftwinger who is close to the green lobby, also claims in an article in today's Guardian that the war on terrorism is a smokescreen and that the US knew in advance about the September 11 attack on New York but, for strategic reasons, chose not to act on the warnings. He says the US goal is "world hegemony, built around securing by force command over the oil supplies" and that this Pax Americana "provides a much better explanation of what actually happened before, during and after 9/11 than the global war on terrorism thesis". (...) The US government last night expressed abhorrence at Mr Meacher's views. An embassy spokesman in London said: "Mr Meacher's fantastic allegations - especially his assertion that the US government knowingly stood by while terrorists killed some 3,000 innocents in New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia - would be monstrous, and monstrously offensive, if they came from someone serious or credible. <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0906-01.htm">www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0906-01.htm</a> <hr></blockquote> And in this story he talks about PNAC: <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0906-01.htm">www.commondreams.org/views03/0906-01.htm</a> Channel 4 interview about September 11: <a href="http://movies01.archive.org/opensource_movies/newsreal/indybay/uploads/channel4_meacher.rm">movies01.archive.org/opensource_movies/newsreal/indybay/uploads/channel4_meacher.rm</a>

by **dbeach** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:08 am

"Whether the hunt for those behind the London bombers can prevail against these powerful political forces remains to be seen. Indeed it may depend on whether Scotland Yard, in its attempts to uncover the truth, can prevail over MI6, which is trying to cover its tracks and in practice has every opportunity to operate beyond the law under the cover of national security." and the same can be said for 9/11 ...who will prevail? Fitzie and the GR and other allies.?? or the bush mean machine with their many methods of silencing opponents

by **DrDebugDU** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:20 am

As mentioned above. The story of the $100,000.- Majed Atta is a relative of Mohamed Atta. Until the middle of 2001, Majed Atta ran the Rainbow Grocery on Plant Street in Winter Garden. On Aug. 1 2001, he and his family packed their belongings into a U-Haul and left their rental home near Lake Apopka. Majed Atta's former landlady said they moved just one week after Atta said he planned to buy the home from her and open a new grocery store in the Orlando area. (Orlando Sentinel Sep 23, 2001) However according to the news story below a Majed Atta is back again in 2004, running a grocery store on Congress Street in New Orleans <a href="http://www.neworleansataglance.com/profile_business.php?id=13421&sic_dscr=Grocers%20and%20Grocery%20Stores&city_id=88">address</a> together with Shareef Quattom, but according to the FBI it was a different Majed Atta who happened to be in the grocery business and who also happened to leave Florida just before 9/11 and was busy buying a grocery store for $92,000. How much money did Mohamed Atta receive from Mahmoud Ahmad? $100,000? <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Times-Picayune (New Orleans) June 4, 2004 Friday: Atiya Saleh, Shareef Quattom and Majed Atta have given paperwork to Lincoln County, Miss., officials that indicates that the $27,000 in currency sheriff’s deputies confiscated from the trunk of Mr. Saleh’s Ford sedan March 10 was the down payment for a grocery store Mr. Atta was purchasing. Still, sheriff’s officials are skeptical and say they want to make sure the three New Orleans men weren’t on a money-laundering trip that took them through Mississippi. (...) Among Arab-Americans, Mississippi has a reputation for being a good place to steer clear of, said former Jackson merchant Atta, who is now selling groceries on Congress Street in New Orleans. It wasn't like that before Sept. 11, 2001, said Atta, a native of Jordan who moved to the United States at 16 and attended college in Hattiesburg. His fond memories of the years he spent in Mississippi brought him back to the state in 2001, when he and his family decided to leave Florida, their home for 10 years. (article no longer online) <hr></blockquote> However it seems like his grocery store has been hit by Katrina, so Mahmood Ahmed's gift to Majed is probably washed away and looted... As distilled from: <a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/102204issue.htm">www.madcowprod.com/102204issue.htm</a>

by **emad** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:29 am

and had detailed, comprehensive facts on the logistics, planning, bankrolling and final execution of 9/11 from the end of 1999 including a videotaped interview with the UN head of military intelligence. The MI6 copy of this tape was destroyed on Blair's orders in early 2000 as soon as Bush Jr declared his intention to run for office and MI5 head Stella Rimington was paid off with lucrative City directorships including British Gas and Marks & Spencer. The background to this: The Saudis head of security/intelligence Kamel Adham was protecting the real paternity of 'Osama Bin Laden' for over 20 years. OBL is the Syrian-born son of the 'King Fahd bin Abdel-Aziz al Saud' who died last month, in reality a lookalike impostor planted by the Reagan/Bush 1 regime after a disastrous attempt at a military coup in Riyadh, engineered mainly with Mossad help, in 1981 that resulted in the assasination of the real Fahd and a big win for Wahhabist factions controlling Saudi oil revenues who inserted their man and continued to pull the strings of power. Thatcher effectively silenced all intelligence about the Fahd assasination in classified material labelled 'Death of a Princess' - a UK TV documentary about the beheading of a daughter of the House of Saud allegedly caught in an act of adultery. Kamel Adham: also former director/shareholder of BCCI, whose ultimate patent company International Credit and Investment Corporation was owned and run from the Carribean by former top CIA spook Richard McGarrach Helms, Robert Maxwell, James R Bath and John Gelli. Adham was also the main Saudi partner for many years in financial and arms companies run by former UK Tory Minister for Defence Procurement (and subsequent perjury jailbird) Jonathan Aitken. In reality the natural son of George H Bush. Thatcher's golden boy earmarked for ultimate honours in the UK as a potential Prime Minister and later NATO Sec Gen. The 9/11 CIA intelligence was effectively gagged from disclosure of the UN evidence in a series of complex deals with members of the Bush 1 and Clinton administrations compromised during the unmasking of CIA traitor Aldrich Ames. And to protect the legacy of UK spy Robert Maxwell whose espionage for the state of Israel is well documented. Also to protect his daughter by Thatcher - one 'Cherie Booth QC' - in reality Dorothy Freeman, wife of John Gelli.

by **emad** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:35 am

merged into new all powerful unit the Counter-Terror Command, reporting to the Met Commissioner Ian Blair. The MI6 top spook John Scarlett (the brains behind Poodle's WMD fantasy) will end up in the Tower of London along with former MI5 head Stella Rimington - who did such a brilliant job under John Major in promoting 'House of Windsor' fiction regarding the Asian criminal ring headed by 'Princess Diana'. The smart money is all on the Metropolitan Police and the City of London cops who have done an excellent job of weeding out the bent UK spooks in Aldrich Ames's CIA rat trap. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=emad@rigorousintuition>emad</A> at: 9/10/05 8:43 am

by **slimmouse** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:25 pm

Excellent find Anti, and thanks. I have today become a member ( for the first time in my life ) of the newest British political party. We had our status approved this week, and we mean some serious business. Our major policy doctrine ? Tell the fucking truth !!!!!!!!! Bound to upset a few folks for sure lol. We set up as much as anything to protect those of us who seek the truth, from any kind of clearly imminent govnt "Anti terror" legislation . You know ; the kind of legislation, which, listening to Charles Clarke at the EU this week, and echoed by Blair in China, is clearly going to be aimed at any kind of voice of dissent - under the all encompassing "incitement to terrorism" umbrella. We are currently working on a manifesto, and a website. As soon as these are up and running, I will post more details. In the meantime, Im glad you mentioned Mr Meacher, because along with people like David Shayler who is addressing a fringe meeting of the green party on Monday with one of our members, Craig Murray ( ex UK ambassador to Uzbechistan ) and a few other fellow truthseekers and men of true principle, we firmly believe we CAN make a difference. I hope you will join us Anti. I get the overall sense that people are sick to fucking death of being lied to. I see it every day in my new part time work. I will be ensuring that Mr Meacher gets an email from us very soon. Meanwhile, especially for all you brits out there - Watch this space.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> Do we intend to change the face of British politics ? Well whilst we can all dream, we certainly dont have delusions of grandeur. What we WILL do is make some Goddamn noise. On that you can rely <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">

Michael Meacher joins RI (Brilliant piece from a brave man)

Michael Meacher joins RI (Brilliant piece from a brave man)

Awesome. That's a great find.

Re: Awesome. That's a great find.

MI6 (more correct MI5) will outrank Scotland Yard

NATO, UN Security Council also knew

UK Special Branch and Anti-Terror squad have just

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