"Rosetta Stone" of 9/11 in Atta's luggage

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"Rosetta Stone" of 9/11 in Atta's luggage

Postby Ike Broflovski » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:56 am

This piece in NY Newsday says that the 9/11 plot was solved and the hijackers identified by documents in luggage that Mohammed Atta checked at the Portland airport. The wording of the article is unclear, but apparently the luggage didn't make it onto the plane in Portland and was later seized by the FBI in Boston.<br><br>They're saying that Atta checked two bags. One bag contained the "last will and testament" that was publicized shortly after 9/11. These documents were in the other bag.<br><br>According to this <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a745bagsuniforms">9/11 Timeline entry</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, other 2001 press reports said Atta's luggage contained airline uniforms.<br><br>Atta's luggage was quite the evidentiary treasure trove!<br><br><br><br><br>Quotes below from <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uslugg0417,0,3743892.story?coll=ny-homepage-bigpix2005">An untold story of 9/11 (NY Newsday)</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Former federal terrorism investigators say a piece of luggage hastily checked in at the Portland, Maine, airport by a World Trade Center hijacker on the morning of Sept. 11 provided the Rosetta stone enabling FBI agents to swiftly unravel the mystery of who carried out the suicide attacks and what motivated them.<br><br>A mix-up in Boston prevented the luggage from connecting with the plane that hijackers crashed into the north tower of the trade center. Seized by FBI agents at Boston's Logan Airport, investigators said, it contained Arab-language papers revealing the identities of all 19 hijackers involved in the four hijackings, as well as information on their plans, backgrounds and motives.<br><br>The luggage saga represents what the former federal authorities describe as an untold story of 9/11 -- offering explanations for questions long unanswered about the investigation of the tragedy, such as how authorities were able to identify the hijackers so soon after the attacks.<br><br>[...]<br><br>"It had all these Arab-language papers that amounted to the Rosetta stone of the investigation," former FBI agent Warren Flagg said. The former federal prosecutor, who declined to be identified publicly, supported Flagg's account.<br><br>Hijacker IDs<br><br>"How do you think the government was able to identify all 19 hijackers almost immediately after the attacks?" Flagg asked. "They were identified through those papers in the luggage. And that's how it was known so soon that al-Qaida was behind the hijackings.<br><br>The former prosecutor agreed that papers from the luggage helped identify suspects. "I can't speak on the record about that evidence," he said. "This evidence was gathered under grand jury subpoenas and I can't discuss grand jury matters."<br><br>The papers discovered in the hijackers' luggage were bolstered by other evidence gathered against the conspirators by the FBI, the former federal prosecutor said. "These guys left behind a paper trail," he said. "They had bank accounts. They rented cars. They had to show what they were doing in the United States. We investigated 9/11 from day one on the assumption that there might be a criminal prosecution."<br><br>But when it seemed clear that all 19 hijackers had been killed in the attacks, jurisdiction transferred from various federal prosecutors' offices around the country to Justice Department headquarters in Washington.<br><br>Flagg, an FBI agent for 22 years, worked on terrorism cases, among others. Now president of Flaggman Inc., a Manhattan-based investigative firm, he was retired by Sept. 11 but stayed in close touch with former FBI colleagues and prosecutors.<br><br>He said he first heard the account of the luggage's significance in the investigation on Sept. 28, 2001, after attending the funeral for John O'Neill, a former top FBI antiterrorism official who died helping others to safety Sept. 11 in his new job as director of security at the World Trade Center.<br><br>After the funeral, he said, he fell into conversation with a young FBI agent he had helped train in the New York office. The agent, working on the Sept. 11 investigation, told him about the luggage. The agent said the New England prosecutor helping direct the investigation -- whom Flagg also knew -- was familiar with the evidence. Flagg said he telephoned the prosecutor that same day and received confirmation of the agent's account.<br><br>"I was devastated because word had already leaked out of the hijackers' identities," Flagg said. "But I was also excited that the FBI had so much evidence so quickly."<br><br>The young FBI agent, who has since left the agency, works in private industry and is reportedly in Dubai. He could not be reached for comment.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Rosetta Stone" of 9/11 in Atta's luggage

Postby HMKGrey » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:40 pm

This was always one of the biggest loads of toss about the whole deal. Didn't and don't buy it for a second. It also contradicts the speech given by whatsisface of the FBI a few months later about them not having a 'single piece of paper' to go on. <br><br>Anomalies abound: <br><br>- Strange that Atta would create a 'Rosetta Stone' in the first place<br>- Strange that he'd check it on a flight and not carry it with him<br>- Strange that he even caught that flight. Didn't it have a really narrow connection time? Given the nature of his plan, why didn't he fly in the night before to be absolutely sure of making his flight. "Oh, hi Osama, it's me Atta. Yeah, sorry but my connecting flight was delayed, so no martyrdom for me today then. Yeah, bummer." <br>- Why has no one ever really focussed in on the uniforms? I'm sure they don't come easy, right? And given the anomalies about the cockpit entries and no distress signals being punched, doesn't it perhaps suggest that some of the hijackers may have been sitting in jump seats..? I'm pretty sure that the uniforms aren't even mentioned in the 9/11 Whitewash.<br><br>I file this along with the rental cars they just happened to find... the ATM's they just happened to know they'd used... the flight schools they went right to... <br><br>The more you pay even the slightest attention to the official myth, the more angry you get at the MSM. They're either in on it from the beginning, in on it from shortly after (and when I say "in on it", I mean told, briefed, brought on side, lectured about the good of us all etc) or, of course they're just absolutely, utterly clueless fucking morons. <p></p><i></i>
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Luggage

Postby km artlu » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:47 pm

And Portland, Maine? Since all the puzzle pieces fell so miraculously into place, did that one come with an explanation also? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Luggage

Postby CyberChrist » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:01 pm

What a load of shit. The sad thing is that there are actually people that believe this and will defend it as the gospel. <p>--<br>CyberChrist<br>http://www.hackerjournal.org<br>My brain is hung like a horse.</p><i></i>
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Re: Luggage

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:41 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"I was devastated because <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>word had already leaked out of the hijackers' identities," </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->Flagg said. "But I was also excited that the FBI had so much evidence so quickly."<br><br>The young FBI agent, who has since left the agency, works in private industry and is reportedly in Dubai. He could not be reached for comment.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>So we are to believe that right after the most deadly act on American soil since Pearl Harbor that all this info was dumped into public view without any concern for a follow-up investigation on the supposedly massive web of cells just waiting to end life as we know it forever.<br><br>And that the 'mainstream press' is 'allowed' to transmit every alleged bin Laden message all over the world to his followers with taunts, justifications, and new threats.<br><br>Right. sigh.<br><br>It is extremely sad that so many Americans do not think critically about the implications of the theater being presented to them as reality. <p></p><i></i>
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Gold bricks in luggage

Postby sijepuis » Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:11 pm

This is a steaming scoopa' from ... <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>October 2001</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.<br><br>As I read the post [before mid- to west- coast North America was awake], I thought <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>some</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->body's being funny.<br><br>It's amusing all the way through, until the last paragraph:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The young FBI agent, who has since left the agency, works in private industry and is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>reportedly <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>in Dubai. He could not be reached for comment.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Did the "young FBI agent" just up and decide to take a "breather" from his stressful job to go to Dubai?<br><br>Well, I'm impressed. <p></p><i></i>
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Lamest. Conspiracy theory. Ever. (The "official")

Postby DBtv » Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:55 pm

One would truly have to be a tin-foil hat wearing buffoon to believe this tripe. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dbtv>DBtv</A> at: 4/18/06 3:17 pm<br></i>
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well...

Postby anotherdrew » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:35 pm

how does this fit in with the several suposed hijackers who were found alive and well and nowhere near America? BBC interviewed some of them. And from what I've heard, the CCTV at the airport does NOT show Atta boarding the plane, it shows a companion he's with boarding, but not Atta. For all I know Atta is alive somewhere today. <p></p><i></i>
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re: well...

Postby Ike Broflovski » Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:39 am

I don't think this relates to the stolen identities either way. If there were a list of names, it could easily include names which were being used by someone else.<br><br>As for security cameras, a picture has been released of both Atta and Alomari going through security in Portland. This photo is in the story at the Newsday link. No photos of them at Logan have been released.<br><br>I posted this link because this is the first time I've heard that documents in the luggage were the key to identifying the other hijackers and unraveling the plot. In 2001, we heard about Atta's luggage and "last will and testament," but not these other documents.<br><br>I find it remarkable that so much of the "hijacker" narrative came from this one source, and I wonder why Atta would have been carrying those documents around in his luggage. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Rosetta Stone" of 9/11 in Atta's luggage

Postby BannedfromDU » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:53 pm

Bullshit! Amazingly even the supposed 'opposition' dares not question the load of treason and lies surrounding 9/11. <p></p><i></i>
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