9/10: Pentagon lost $2.3 trill.; 9/11: Guess where it's hit?

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Re: yes

Postby yesferatu » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:12 pm

<<thats what i dont understand,<br>if rummy knew what was coming and that the records were getting wiped why even make the announcement?>><br><br>That was my big question when this subject was discussed in an earlier thread. <br>I leaned towards Rummy knew he could get away with saying it, since he was aware it would be gone as a big news item the very next. But why bother announcing it then? Arrogance, or something else?<br><br>Suffer me to offer my theories:<br>It may have been a tip-off to Pentagon accounting staff. Knowing how big this was, and how damaging it was, and then seeing Rummy publicly announce it, may have given them a heads up that something was going down very soon. Perhaps he thought if they could read between the lines, they might just stay away from the Pentagon the next day (thus Rummy has saved some lives).<br>Or, and I may lean towards this....the inside job was deeper inside than Rummy and his ilk. Rummy did a no-no and the shadow government deeper inside than the likes of Rummy decided this announcement, if pursued, could lead to the discovery of the government behind the government...since they are the ones spending and taking those trillions of dollars. Rummy may have been startled to find this accounting, um, irregularity, and just did what was natural: he announced it. He had no idea that it would lead to the Pentagon being attacked by the shadow gov't as a means to obliterate the impact of the announcement. <br>I dunno. <br>But the question why he announced is THE most important question we can ask. After all, it is all about follow the money....because it was a crime, not an "act of war"...at least not the kind we were used to. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: yes

Postby Attack Ships on Fire » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:46 am

My thought on why, if the parlor game of cherades is indeed true, Rumsfeld mentioned the missing $2.3 trillion the day before 9/11 is the simple fact that if you're going to deliver bad news that will get you in hot water, make the news even worse and you'll quickly find out how fast the original bad news is forgotten.<br><br>An example:<br><br>Case 1: A teen comes stumbling through the door in the middle of the night. He was at a party. He drove home drunk. The worried parents have been waiting up for him because he never called, he's 4 hours overdue, etc. The teen gets grounded, loses car privledges. Life sucks for a few months.<br><br>Case 2: The teen doesn't get home at all because while he was driving drunk he crashed the car. He's in a hospital banged up. Instead of berating their teen, the worried parents get a phone call in the middle of the night from a police officer that tells them to go to the local hospital. The parents get there and see their son banged up. Grounding him is the last thing on their minds.<br><br>You deliver the bad news that will get you and your cronies into hot water the day before and then watch as it's forgotten about because a big bucket of shit lands on the world's front porch nice and early the next day. Jesus, even one better, the people that could have ratted you and your cronies out about all the money that's missing are now dead, and the lucky SOBs that called in sick, were on vacation or took the day off don't even have the original documents anymore that they could use against you if they wanted to resume their papertrail detective work.<br><br>It's almost as good as Tom Clancy, ain't it?<br><br>On a tangent, the wacky Charles Fort part of me wonders what you could buy with $2.3 trillion dollars. Could it buy you dozens of secret underground bases across America? Could it buy you a secret fleet of space vehicles? Suddenly all that talk by Gary McKinnon about classified websites containing lists of non-terrestrial officers starts to sound a little less like science fiction.<br><br>And that's not even including the years when military contractors "charged" the DoD $500 for a plunger. How many hundreds of billions disappeared on paper that were allocated for ultra expensive Home Depot tools? Add that to the $2.3 trillion and tell me what figure you come up with, then ask yourself what's really crazy: a military and a government that misplaces trillions of dollars and buys $10 tools for hundreds of dollars, or that the worst military assignment isn't being stationed in Nome, Alaska but on Charon Base, Pluto?<br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=attackshipsonfire>Attack Ships on Fire</A> at: 6/25/06 1:48 am<br></i>
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Re: yes

Postby NewKid » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:25 am

My thoughts exactly, Attack Ships on Fire. If it's connected at all, Rummy is announcing it the day before for a reason -- to have it go away, and to serve as a signal to others and wipe out the personnel. <br><br>The other points are important too. First, this is not the only large sum of money the Pentagon loses. Losses in the tens and hundreds of billions are routine throughout Pentagon recent history (and don't forget other agencies too). And finally, yes, this is so much money that we're talking about the kinda dough that isn't tucked away in the Caymans or some corporate slush fund; we're talking about the kinda dough you'd raise if you were going to start a new civilization. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=newkid@rigorousintuition>NewKid</A> at: 6/25/06 7:26 am<br></i>
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Re: Why Announce it?

Postby AlanStrangis » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:29 pm

yesferatu: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It may have been a tip-off to Pentagon accounting staff. Knowing how big this was, and how damaging it was, and then seeing Rummy publicly announce it, may have given them a heads up that something was going down very soon.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>If we go from the premise that the announcement wasn't coincidental, then I doubt that it would be a tip-off to accounting staff. After all, anyone who did get the hint from the announcement, and saw their colleagues killed the next day would likely start spilling beans.<br><br>Here's my best guess: By making the announcement, Rummy is tipping off not the accounting staff, but those involved with the attacks. If we ignore the 2.3 trillion, there was no need for the Pentagon to be hit for the 9/11 attack to be a successful PSYOP.<br><br>The announcement could have been a confirmation as to whether the Pentagon should be hit or not. Those involved with operations would be watching for official announcements from certain officials, and depending on the existence/contents of them, would alter the plans accordingly.<br><br>And when I say "those involved with operations" I mean Richard "Of course the order still stands, have you heard any different?" Cheney.<br><br>This would also explain why a couple of witnesses distinctly smelled cordite, which could have been used to guarantee destruction of pertinent records, and possibly personnel that were considered potential "loose cannons". <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=alanstrangis>AlanStrangis</A> at: 6/25/06 10:31 am<br></i>
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