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Postby slimmouse » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:50 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What, you don't believe lizards?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Believe it ?<br><br> I know it lol.<br><br> Try teaching that fact in schools <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Who would have you disallowed, disbarred, disassociated ?<br><br> Why the parents of course !<br><br> "The people have outsheeped the sheep" - David Icke on the Wogan show - sometime recently. <p></p><i></i>
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The Lizard Talk is Interesting..........

Postby JD » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:46 am

But I'd really like to know if anyone can find the transcript to the 9/11 speech by Kissenger. <br><br>Carried on all the networks. <br><br>They made a big deal about it coming up. They made it out like a Presidential speech or something. At the time I thought "why in the world would they make a big deal about him talking"?<br><br>I can't find any record of it now. This is weird. Has my curiosity aroused.<br><br>Some of you folks are GOOD researchers - DE can you find this stupid speech?? I've spent a long time looking and am stumped. <p></p><i></i>
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He's got all the talking points on day one

Postby Forgetting2 » Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:46 am

governments that harbor<br><br>everything changed on Sept. 11 (actually Brown's part of the script)<br><br>the long war<br><br>judge our friends by the degree of support (with us or against us)<br><br>don't be a pansy and try and 'understand' the terrorists<br><br>Pearl Harbor<br><br>not just those who harbor, but those who encourage (the next phase of the plan?) <p></p><i></i>
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Re: He's got all the talking points on day one

Postby AlicetheCurious » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:26 am

Exactly, Forgetting2 -- it slapped me right in the face when I read that transcript, of what he said WITHIN HOURS of the attacks. Doesn't anybody remember what it was like at the time? In the midst of the global fog of hysteria, disorientation, trauma, there is Kissinger, calmly listing the talking points that would become the mantra of the "War on Terror".<br><br>Uh, NewKid, I usually admire the way you think, but you need to check the batteries in your smoke alarm...<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: He's got all the talking points on day one

Postby AlicetheCurious » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:49 am

JD, you think this is what you're looking for? I found this at LaRouche's site, in a press release dated September 15, 2001:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>According to reliable sources who saw him on German television, Kissinger, in a press conference at the Frankfurt Airport this week, listed Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya (and possibly other countries) as countries to be targetted.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.schillerinstitute.org/radio_lar_sep_2001/sdi_cat_09_15_01.html">www.schillerinstitute.org...15_01.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I don't have time right now to try to find a transcript, I have to go out.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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One more thing on the talking points.

Postby Forgetting2 » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:17 am

In the classroom in Florida he is supposedly told by an Ari Fleisher, ‘don’t say anything yet.’ [Washington Times, 10/7/02] And he doesn’t.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday">www.cooperativeresearch.o...restingday</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Then, at the appointed time he makes his speech at the school.<br><br>“Today we’ve had a national tragedy. Two airplanes have crashed into the World Trade Center in an apparent terrorist attack on our country<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010911.html">www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...10911.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Bush flies to Barksdale.<br><br>Here’s his speech from Barksdale. It’s pretty generic. Working hard (maybe that’s his own personal talking point) to save lives and punish those responsible. We’re on high alert. And so on.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010911-1.html">www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...911-1.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>From Offut he makes no speech.<br><br>Once back at the White House<br><br>“We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.” [Washington Post, 1/27/02]<br><br>So. Just when did Bush get the memo?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Sorry

Postby Forgetting2 » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:20 am

didn't say I was talking about bush at the beginning of that last comment... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sorry

Postby NewKid » Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:09 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Uh, NewKid, I usually admire the way you think, but you need to check the batteries in your smoke alarm...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Of course, Kissinger knows the war on terror is coming; that's what I meant by saying the clash of civilizations. But Kissinger says even less than counterterror pundits who much earlier were accusing Bin Laden. Kissinger doesn't say it's Bin Laden there. And as Forgetting2 notes, neither does Bush or the neocons. So I don't think anyone knew exactly who was going to take the fall at that point. The neocons have been itching to have Saddam responsible for terror since WTC 93, and they continue to make the argument that Saddam and Bin Laden are connected well after 9-11 and well after everyone knows it's crap. (Remember the Atta/Iraqi connection in Prague, Steven Hayes' book, the Connection, etc.) The neocons instantly said on the morning of 9-11 -- see if it's Saddam, even after the Bin laden narrative was forming in the public mind. There's ample record of the neocons being totally uninterested in Afghanistan and Bin Laden both before and after 9-11, so it strikes me as very unlikely the neocons were happy with the instant claiming of this as the sole work of Bin Laden.<br><br>My guess, and again, it's only very loose speculation, is that there was some sort of an agreement beforehand to have either both Iraqi and Bin Laden patsies or more likely, cross over Patsies who could be what Atta in Prague wasn't, i.e., working for both Saddam and Bin Laden (possibly out of the Oklahoma city ring that Moussoui and some of the other hijackers mixed with -- remember, neocons love to talk about these guys for Oklahoma 95) and the neocons got double crossed at the last minute on game day. <br><br>So to say Kissinger knows how all that's going to play out in advance I think is foolish. How could he know that? He's not on the phone with anybody all morning; he's giving a speech in Germany. So my guess is Cheney and Rummy are pushing very hard to get Bush to say it is or might be Saddam, and Clarke and Tenet are saying no, it's Bin Laden, and Bush is having a semi nervous breakdown trying to figure out what to do that day (perhaps with Condi, channelling George Schultz, serving as mediator). <br><br>Cheney: "Mr. President, we're working on finding out what's happened to your security detail, in the mean time, don't say who it is, but we think it's Saddam."<br><br>Clarke/Tenet: "No Mr. President, we're working on finding your fighter escort, but it looks like Bin Laden, Mr. President."<br><br>Cheney: "No Mr. President, it's Saddam, and it looks like he's targetted Crawford."<br><br>So who the hell knows, but I don't think anybody watching the reaction that day, including Kissinger, knew exactly how it was going to play out. <br><br>That explains why Kissinger makes such a broad list of suspects as well, even after the day of 9-11.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>listed Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya (and possibly other countries) as countries to be targetted.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=newkid@rigorousintuition>NewKid</A> at: 6/25/06 7:44 am<br></i>
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Kissinger out of the loop?

Postby DrDebugDU » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:10 am

Funny. I'm working on Ty Rauber's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Who Killed John O'Neill</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and Henry Kissinger's name comes up over and over again. This is one theory in which Kissinger features a major role behind the scenes. I see a leading role for Paul Bremer in 9/11 and he was the CEO of Kissinger and ass.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675">www.democraticunderground...=125x92675</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Who Killed John O'Neill</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>An Updated MIHOP<br><br>Who did 9/11? A question we all want to know answers to. <br>Meet the CIA of the 21st century. Privatized, independent and hidden from view.<br>* AIG as Money Laundering Inc.<br>* Marsh Crisis Consultancy as Terrorism Inc with Osama bin Laden played by <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Paul Bremer</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>* Kroll as the privatized CIA Inc.<br>* al-Cokeda as the Drug dealers in the Flight school who are later called terrorists in the OCT<br><br>* Learn how they all work together. <br>* Learn how they make fortunes on 9/11 with insider trading.<br>* Learn how sophisticated psyops and black ops is.<br><br>* Learn what the government and the OCTers don't want you to know<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Video + large discussion:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (it is better if you watch the video first)<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675">www.democraticunderground...=125x92675</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Journal:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug">journals.democraticunderg...om/DrDebug</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668">www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>al-Cokeda</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Iran-Contra II<br><br>How the 9/11 flight schools were being used for narcotics trafficing to finance <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>black operations like 9/11</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> which was covered up by labeling the drug dealers, terrorists. The drug import just continued after 9/11 as if nothing happened and were involved in the biggest cocaine shipment ever...<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06246/amanda-keller.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Mohammed Atta's girlfriend<br><br>Learn about drug planes being used also for illegal CIA rendition, the (hidden) owner of the flight school committing insider trading on 9/11, scams with non-existing companies which miraculously produce DC-9s, and much more...<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668">www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The video</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Ty Rauber made it and it has one actor playing all the parts -a conspiracy theorist, a paranoid "they're after us" type, an OCTer, a philospher and they are all discussing 911-it's kind of like this forum. He ties Kroll, CIA, AIG together, speculated that Kroll is a sort of privatized CIA, running on drug money but able to do what the CIA can't because they aren't allowed. Some of this relates to the Hopsicker story. <br><br>Why are these Kroll types anti terrorism experts; where do they get the information? Then they show how people move between these corporations and CIA . Doesn't spend a lot of time on the hows and why's of the actual day, more about drugs insurance companies/ CIA and the piece de resistance -what Al Qaeda really is and what Mohammed Atta's function was, his opinion will make a lot of sense as to Atta's behavior.<br><br>This is all for the same video , I gave different links in case some didn't work:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.wkjo.com">www.wkjo.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://whokilledjohnoneill.com">whokilledjohnoneill.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Movie Downloads:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>http://www.wkjo.com/downloads.html<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Mirrors:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935">video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.archive.org/details/Who_Killed_John_ONeill">www.archive.org/details/Who_Killed_John_ONeill</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs302.xs.to/xs302/06254/wtc1.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Who needs a plane? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 6/25/06 8:14 am<br></i>
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Re: Kissinger out of the loop?

Postby NewKid » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:57 am

I think that's all on the right track, but it's likely more complex than just those groups. Yes, I think Kissinger knows what the deal is in a big picture sense (although again, I don't think he sits in planning sessions with mercenaries on how the logisitics are gonna be managed), and yes these people you mention are the major players in what we saw on 9-11 and yes and Bremer is surely involved in this somehow (remember him from the National Commission on Terrorism in 2000 <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/terrorists.htm" target="top">www.davesweb.cnchost.com/terrorists.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> )<br><br>but I don't see it as having gone down with just that. The neocons almost certainly had their own mischief at play as well set up for 9-11. <br><br>What Kissinger probably sees on the day of 9-11 is a screwed up operation, the terror pundits saying its Bin Laden, but not the neocons or Bush. And then he sees Bush running around the country and I'm sure he knows something weird is going on at that point. So his statement presumes the clash of civilizations and all that, but is very broad and keeps all options open on who's going to get the blame for 9-11. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Kissinger out of the loop?

Postby NewKid » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:02 am

hey Slim, is Amanda Keller making the Satanic handsign in that image? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Kissinger out of the loop?

Postby DrDebugDU » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:05 am

> I think that's all on the right track, but it's likely more complex than just those groups. <br><br>There are more teams, however these are very likely. There has to be a psyop team, another team for the Controlled Demolition etc. They will all be privatized. There is no governmental agency involved anymore, because that was too difficult, so it's even more hidden than ever before.<br><br>> I don't think he sits in planning sessions with mercenaries on how the logisitics are gonna be managed<br><br>Indeed. That's where people like Bremer come in. He has a team like that. Kissinger is more the big plan man. He doesn't care about details.<br><br>> but I don't see it as having gone down with just that. <br>As I said, the team is probably larger, however Marsh is right on the inside so they are major players (just like Kroll and AIG is the big huge company who owns all of them). Kroll will have done most of the coordination, however the Terror team could very likely be at Marsh with Paul Bremer heading it.<br><br>> So his statement presumes the clash of civilizations and all that, but is very broad and keeps all options open on who's going to get the blame for 9-11. <br><br>Kissinger wanted this clash of civilizations. He is very hegelian. I think that Kissinger ass. played a major role together with the neocons. The beauty is that Bremer is an intermediate between the terrorists, the neocons and the Kissinger team. So he is right in the middle of all those groups and is probably one of the most important people in this game. If he is not the #1 guy, then he is the #2 or #3 guy. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Kissinger out of the loop?

Postby DrDebugDU » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:07 am

Yeah, Amanda makes the satanic gesture. I loved that part. Those Germans were a bit on the dark side... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: One more thing on the talking points.

Postby NewKid » Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:44 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Mind you, I'll confess to having a visceral, hostile feeling towards Kissinger. Not just because I know he's a cold, evil war criminal and mass murderer, but because I did see him once in person. I steeled myself not to respond to his legendary charm, but instead found myself repulsed by what seemed to be a huge, humanoid rat. There was nothing to steel myself against, I don't know what people mean when they say he is "charming" and "fascinating", I discerned nothing attractive whatsoever. I WAS frightened, though...Maybe that's what some people like. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Alice, I see what you mean.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.whitehousetapes.org/clips/1971_0423_nixon_on_kerry.html" target="top">www.whitehousetapes.org/clips/1971_0423_nixon_on_kerry.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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who the fuck is 'Satan' ?

Postby slimmouse » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:06 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> hey Slim, is Amanda Keller making the Satanic handsign in that image?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Perhaps this should be a seperate thread.<br><br> But, who exactly is Satan ?<br><br> Come to that , who exactly is God ?<br><br> Answers on a pic of the Vitruvian man.<br><br> Oh boy. No wonder the elite hate the Da Vinci code <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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