9/11 turth journailst beaten at his home in front of Wife

by **Sweejak** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:33 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Uh huh. The ADL trains the local cops? Only in the imagination of a nutjob anti-Semite.<hr></blockquote> Nut job anti Semite. You have checked this out? <a href="http://tinyurl.com/hecw8">tinyurl.com/hecw8</a>

by **professorpan** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:37 pm

Dang, Sweejak. I stand corrected.

by **Sweejak** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:08 pm

I'm pretty much taking Bollyn's words at face value until more comes out, if ever. I don't read him often but I do recall that an article on the seismic events recorded during the WTC collapse was "shoddy", meaning that it seems he misinterpreted the graphs and never corrected them. But recently I seem to recall another analysis that still makes them something of a smoking gun. Anyway, it's just a little creepy that the ADL, an organization that was fined for spying on Americans, is running all these training seminars. Turn the tables and think what it would look like if any cult/religion/ advocacy group or lobby did the same thing.

by **rocco33** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:03 pm

I mostly just lurk on these boards, but I must say, I am amazed at the consistent and constant debunking being done by Prof. Pan. It's quite odd considering you do so many stories on iffy subjects with not much proof at all. Plus, you hang out here a lot which deals with obvious logical conclusions that we come to amidst a slew of media lies. The fact is, it did happen. I saw it with my own eyes upon his release. Interviews on video have already been done with the police "gang unit" spokesman. This did happen. And as far as suing the police, I can tell you first hand, that if you plan to do that, forget about staying in the same town. Everytime you or your wife leave your house, you will be pulled over, ticketed, towed, arrested, etc. It never ends. Chicago is heavily influenced by the ADL and the whole reason that Bollyn got harrassed, is he was getting real close to a lot of Israeli connections to 9-11. Same thing that s been happening to Kaminski. Just go to this thread headlined "Ehud Olmert's Ties to 9/11" , read the follow up posts, and see for yourself... <a href="http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=89761">www.rumormillnews.com/cgi...read=89761</a>

by **911 Eye Witness** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:27 pm

"For instance, there should be police reports and other documentation of the charges and why he was picked up and held." — Prof. Pan It really irritates me that some people lead such a sheltered, naive life. I've had close friends that were stalked, caught, by the NYPD. To pretend that only a police report will verify harrassment is ludicrous. Americans get beaten and abused very regularly WITHOUT any official documentation. There are sooo many similar stories that it's almost pointless to communicate with someone that hasn't been paying attention to recent history. I recall a similar poster to these boards by the name of Qtub that asserted that only an NIST report would convince him that anything was even slightly odd about 9/11. How disconnected are these people? As someone said here a while ago (and it stuck in my mind) Who are you going to believe, the perps or the victims? Amazing kudo's to Mr. Bollyn for coming back the next day and serving papers to that A-hole Police Chief: <a href="http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_government&Number=294870916#Post294870916">www.libertyforum.org/show...t294870916</a>

by **darkbeforedawn** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:10 am

I'd have to agree with you there, 911 Witness. The son of a close friend of mine was beaten almost senseless because he was out walking at 5:30 am in the neighborhood where a breakin was reported. His crime? Asking the officers why he had to get into their patrol car. He had no criminal record and did not even resemble the discription of the perp. Later, after detailed pictures were presented that showed his contusions, bruises and broken fingers, the city quietly paid the medical bill. He never pressed charges because he does not believe in holding grudges, though some lawyers in town told him they would take his case for free. The cops are out of control whenever they think they can get away with it, they brutalize, intimidate and bully us. People only start to get it when it happens to them or their own children. Other people's children "deserve" it or they are lieing.

by **havanagilla** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:00 pm

Bronco, Even if Ulmert is involved, this writer made sure this will never be known, because the article is so unreliable and hateful, nobody could take anything about israel-911 seriously. Isn't it interesting that Zionism is lumped together with both communism and nazism at the same time, according to the audience ? -- And here we have again the "ashkenazi jews not being really semites etc.". -- If the person who wrote it simply stated the links bn the security companty and ulmart, that would be sufficient to make (or not) his case. adding the racist trash, makes him an easy (and justified) target for criticism and problems. Articles as that one make it tempting to join the debunking of 911, just because suddenly it doesn't look horrible compared to what's out there in the field. -- Ulmert was appointed with the massive campaign of Bush (whom i also think has a hand in removing sharon), and so, you might have something there, because anyone conneted to Bush, is a suspect of being with him on other scams. If Ulmert is connected, he will be gone once the masters don't need him, or deem him a liability. Again, the article misses the point. If Ulmert/Atzmon blew up the towers, or so, and Bush supports Ulmert, then Bush is on it, and this should matter to the americans. Ofcourse, all the subctractors should be scrutinized, but the main issue is still the pres. If this miserable writers knows about those links, surely the government of the USA knew as well. Can't they just expose Atzmon as the terrorist ? or does the writer imply that Israel can cast a spell of silence on ALL the US administration. How about asking whether the US administration raised some Israeli snakes off shore (in Israel) for that purpose, and the snakes now running the state of israel to the ground ? looks more plausible to me, Brocco. Halva halva

by **rocco33** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:13 pm

"How about asking whether the US administration raised some Israeli snakes off shore (in Israel) for that purpose, and the snakes now running the state of israel to the ground ?" That does sound plausable to me Halva. Good point. Especially considering Sy Hersh's latest.

by **StarmanSkye** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:30 pm

Well-said 911 Witness. Like DBD, my take is that police abuse, harrassment, and physical violence is endemic in many urban centers, difficult if not impossible to conclusively 'prove' via Police reports. I concur with your take on the apparant rush-to-judgement and 'official confirmation' bias evident in some (not infrequent) RI posts -- As DBD sed, 'Who you gonna believe -- the perps or the victim?' Bollyn's story is being reported by Nimmo in his Another Day in the Empire (and elsewhere, like Uruknet), Prison-Planet, Rense, After Downing Street, What Really Happened, GLP, Truthtellers, Let's Roll 911, Stormfront (!!!), as well as Bollyn's routine venues: Republic Broadcast Network and AFP -- AND even confirmed by the local smalltown rag, the Cook County Daily Herald: <a href="http://www.dailyherald.com/news/cookstory.asp?id=217516&cc=c&tc=&t=">www.dailyherald.com/news/...c=c&tc=&t=</a> --quote-- Police arrest former mayoral candidate By Ed Fanselow Daily Herald Staff Writer Posted Thursday, August 17, 2006 A former candidate for mayor in Hoffman Estates was arrested outside his home Tuesday after an altercation with police that ended when officers used a taser gun to subdue him. Christopher Lee Bollyn — who won roughly 325 votes in the village’s 2000 mayoral primary — was charged with resisting arrest and aggravated assault following the incident, which began outside his home at 220 Kingman Lane. Police say they responded to the home shortly before 8 p.m. after Bollyn called 911 to report a suspicious vehicle cruising his block. When officers arrived to inform him that the car was in fact an undercover police vehicle, the 49-year-old Bollyn allegedly became “irate and belligerent” and made statements that led the officers to believe he might try to retrieve a weapon from his home, police reported. After a prolonged struggle on the front lawn, officers were able to subdue Bollyn with a taser gun, police said. He was released from custody a short time later after posting $100 bail. In an e-mail sent to reporters Wednesday, Bollyn claimed the incident was retaliation for his theories that the Sept. 11 attacks were a U.S. government-led conspiracy. “I have never been treated so brutally in my life,” he said, adding that he plans to seek asylum in Norway or Switzerland. “I do not feel safe in the United States.” Bollyn is expected to appear in court on Sept. 13. --unquote-- ***** Certainly, it's evident Bollyn WAS arrested and roughed-up following his report of a 'suspicious' car he correctly identified as undercover, and whose inhabitants were (in Bollyn's words) dressed in Body armour -- VERY untypical for the quiet working-class residential neighborhood Bollyn lived in, on a dead-end low-traffic street. IMO, Bollyn was uncool in calling-out to the car's undercover cops AND in reporting a suspicious vehicle -- but that's a far cry from warranting the kind of heavy-handed abuse he (allegedly) recieved and his arrest. As part of an escalating pattern of an emboldened Us vs. Them Police State mentality (aggravated by the dynamics of drugcrime, gangs and inner-city violence victimizing the public and creating a security-state dependency) I tend to believe the gist of Bollyn's claim. Scores of Journalists, researchers, writers and whistleblowers have increasingly been targetted for retribution, blackballing, career death, harrassment, threats, intimidation, and worse -- dissapearances, 'suicides' and 'accidents'. From Rick Siegal's site: Leading Journalists Expose Major Cover-ups in Media *PIC* Posted by: Sara on on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 11:23 PM Topic 911 Truth "<a href="http://www.bringemon.org/">www.bringemon.org/</a> Posted By: pinkcomputercat Date: Saturday, 15 July 2006, 8:03 p.m. The riveting excerpts below are from the revealing accounts of 20 award-winning journalists in the highly acclaimed book Into the Buzzsaw. These courageous writers were prevented by corporate media ownership from reporting major news stories. Some were even fired or laid off. They have won numerous awards, including several Emmys and a Pulitzer. Join in building a better world by helping to spread this news across the land. --unquote-- Kurt Nimmo commenting on the fascist trend of the corporate-oligarchy attacking truthsayers and whistleblowers, reigying Bollyn's 'see the writing on the wall': --quote-- "It is a short step from accusations of treason and appeasement of terrorists, who work for the government—or are simply retarded patsies set-up to take a fall—and the sort of violence practiced by the Nazis and their goons after Hitler pulled off his Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reich, or the Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and the Reich. Bush has come a long way in realizing his Ermächtigungsgesetz, or Enabling Act, and it won’t be long now before minor complaints are dealt with in severe fashion, as they always are under fascist dictatorships. "And the administration has not only the right, but the duty, in my opinion, to pursue fifth column movements," Senator Lindsey Graham told AG Gonzales earlier this year. "And let me tell folks who are watching what a fifth column movement is. It is a movement known to every war where American citizens will sympathize with the enemy and collaborate with the enemy. And it’s happened in every war…. and I don’t think you need a warrant to do that." According to the Manichean dictum of the neocons—you’re with us in the forever war against the Muslims, or you’re with the terrorists—revealing certain facts, as Bollyn has done over the years, may result in, for now, arrest and abuse. However, next month or next year, certainly after the next staged terror attack, it will result in far harsher, even fatal retaliation, as it invariably does in fascist countries." --<a href="http://www.uruknet.info/?s1=1&p=25819&s2=17">www.uruknet.info/?s1=1&p=25819&s2=17</a> --unquote-- *** Starman

by **professorpan** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:48 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I mostly just lurk on these boards, but I must say, I am amazed at the consistent and constant debunking being done by Prof. Pan. It's quite odd considering you do so many stories on iffy subjects with not much proof at all. Plus, you hang out here a lot which deals with obvious logical conclusions that we come to amidst a slew of media lies. <hr></blockquote> If asking questions and refusing to immediately accept any story posted online makes me a debunker in your mind, I can't help that. I am amazed at how my cautions about checking sources and requests for more information is seen as debunking. I see it as honest, critical analysis. And I have admitted when I've been wrong. We don't know what Bollyn said in his calls, or if his tone was considered threatening. I'm not saying it didn't happen as he reported -- I have asked for further confirmation. You say you've seen the interviews. Where? And 9/11 Witness: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>As someone said here a while ago (and it stuck in my mind) Who are you going to believe, the perps or the victims?<hr></blockquote> I'm going to believe whoever is telling the truth.

by **xsic bastardx** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:45 am

<a href="http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=92086" target="top">www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=92086</a> I bet this is still all bullshit because Jeff Rense reported the story right?

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