Dov Zahkeim: This article pulls alot of loose ends together

[Dreams End]

Online journal is linking directly to judicial inc? Incredible. Read the article...it's the very first source. <br><br>This is disturbing on many levels. I'm sorry I don't have more info on the actual case, but I am simply appalled. Anyone who goes to Judicial Inc (whose owner has posted here, by the way) can very quickly see what it is. The one positive thing I'll say about it is that it doesn't hide what it's about. It's the site where I learned, for example, that a series of murders in Chicago in the fifties were committed to obtain Christian blood for Matzoh.<br><br>If there is anything to the story this article is about, then those who wish to expose it should be the most up in arms about the use of this source. It could simply be a way to discredit the real story in the eyes of the mainstream. I think Larouche serves this purpose, often.<br><br>On the other hand, if that's the first source in the story, then there's ample evidence that this is not well researched at all. I spent some time on Judicial Inc, embarrassingly checking into details in that Chicage murder story just to see what was actually known, and all of the "unique" additions to the story from J.I. were out and out lies. Not spin or interpretation or speculation, but outright lies. The guy who writes J.I., whose on bio admits to his role in Operation Phoenix, just makes shit up. Flat out.<br><br>This, then, makes me question Online Journal as a whole. Anyone know anything about them? I remember seeing a staunch Ruppert guy posting there quite a bit. Forget the name but it was the guy who kept emailing McGowan in that exchange about Peak Oil.<br><br>By using this source, Mazza, the author and "associate editor", is signaling his allegiance...there's no other way to interpret it. <br><br>I'm fully convinced that this stuff is not just random. From "former CIA"agents to "former" NSA agents, to the far, far left (RCP) to Counterpunch (a bit more subtle than OJ, obviously) to several prominent blogs, there is a concerted, sophisticated and pre-planned effort to take all of the ills of our national security state and blame them on a very small group...they just happen to be Jewish.<br><br>EVERY leftist should be ashamed to the extent that the left is falling for this. Anyone with any sense of history or understanding about the nature and structure of power in this country should see through this immediately. I don't have time now, but in line with Jeff's current post, I'd like to start a new thread pulling all this together. In my view, this started even before 9/11...it is a cynical and sophisticated game of misdirection. And it is working brilliantly.<br><br>Given that I just started perusing some online books about via Dave Emory's site about the Nazi underground after WW2 and it's folding into current German goverment as well as the US intel establishment as well as the Republican party, I can't help but see this as quite ominous. <br><br>PLEASE, people, be careful here. They will feed you lies wrapped in truth. <br><br>THEY ARE NOT ON OUR SIDE.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[darkbeforedawn]

Well DE aside from discrediting the source of the article I am wondering if you have any information to add-- what exactly do YOU think happened to the three trillion and why do you think our gov seems to be ignoring this? Or are you just more interested in insinuating that anyone who brings up issues such as this is antisemitic? <p></p><i></i>

[darkbeforedawn]

HTML Comments are not allowed Well anyway, they won't print up here, but there are hundreds . Many of these links Jeff uses. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=darkbeforedawn>darkbeforedawn</A> at: 9/8/06 9:04 am<br></i>

[dbeach]

I think Dov is a criminal I have no actual proof or I would be dead..<br><br><br>The article makes what you call a slur against Immigrants..<br><br>The enemies of freedom easily divide and conquer when discussion is limited..<br> The PTB will sacrifice both nations USA and Israel on their altar of hatred.<br><br>Zacheim needs to be discussed and so do his criminal supporters as do the Bushies and their evangelical christains <p></p><i></i>

[darkbeforedawn]

He is obviously being protected. One method of protection that is extremely effective right now is to label anyone who questions Israel or questions the role of zionists in our gov. as antisemitic. We are all terrified of being called these names. Bushcos latest public address when he referred to Nazi sympathizers and enablers was just trying to bring up this whole label issue with out actually saying the word<br>anitsemite. Wanting to know what happened to this money and whether Dov Zahkeim's primary loyalty is to Israel or the US is not antisemitic. Both Israel and the US populations are being used as hostages in a horrible world terror game. We are beginning to see the outlines of who these terrorists are. And to them, all our relgions, all our dreams and hopes for our children are a joke. <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

Havangilla<br><br>I think you are a great poster and valuable traveler in these very dark days..I did not write this article.<br> I would like to focus the thread on the criminal Zacheim <br><br>MAYBE he is a fall guy for the PTB nad MAYBE he is a foriegn spy ..?? in which case he should be arrested for such but when criminals run the planet <br>is there any fairness or justice???<br><br>I again do not want to say any more than Zacheim is a criminal as are the bush cabals clintons kerry/heinz blair wolfowitz perle..ect<br><br>and the end game is divide and conquer and worse <p></p><i></i>

[Rigorous Intuition]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I'm fully convinced that this stuff is not just random. From "former CIA"agents to "former" NSA agents, to the far, far left (RCP) to Counterpunch (a bit more subtle than OJ, obviously) to several prominent blogs, there is a concerted, sophisticated and pre-planned effort to take all of the ills of our national security state and blame them on a very small group...they just happen to be Jewish.<br><br>EVERY leftist should be ashamed to the extent that the left is falling for this. Anyone with any sense of history or understanding about the nature and structure of power in this country should see through this immediately. I don't have time now, but in line with Jeff's current post, I'd like to start a new thread pulling all this together. In my view, this started even before 9/11...it is a cynical and sophisticated game of misdirection. And it is working brilliantly.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Coincidentally "the Israeli connection" is a favourite subject for both William Christison, the 28-year CIA vet and now 9/11-truthie I mentioned in today's post, and his wife, who is also former CIA. Both are frequent <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/christison12132003.html">contributors</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> to Counterpunch. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 9/8/06 10:42 am<br></i>

[havanagilla]

oh, i would never call people of Dov Z's league "fallguys", i tend to see him as a criminal. nailing him is something I would cheer, especially if he is working for my government somehow, because if he was, surely he was harming Israelis, because the israeli services are normally in the business of abusing and harming citizens, under the guise of "security", most are corrupt to the bones. <br><br>We can agree on that, without implicating the dead bones of the entire jewish tribe in this criminal corrupt group's crimes. is that too much to ask ? <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>i am starting to think it is</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Also, your interest should be equally to protect americans and OTHER people from those criminals. Why do you dump it on others ? do you feel entitled to sacrifice my life for yours ? on what basis ? if the guy is a menace to society, he should be gone, not shipped to israel conveniently where he can offend israelis with the consent of the CIA and the israeli gov. this is like suggesting to expell a pedophile from one school (where your son studies, eg) to another school nearby. People do that, you know, and they also have rationalizations to why those poor "other kids" deserve that.<br><br>You know, when the 9-11 happened, some israelis were quite satisfied here, saying "now they will feel what we feel", first i thought they meant you, americans, will feel how it to be attacked by terrorist. years later, I figured it was actually "now you'll feel how it is to live like us under a cabal of lying thugs who use national security to enslave their people for their own enrichment".(while the rest of world allows that, as long as they get their share). ha ? get that ?<br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[darkbeforedawn]

Do you really percieve an actual backlash against the Jewish population here in the US? Are you insinuating that CounterPunch, Bill Christinsson, Wayne Madsen, Mike Ruppert, etc etc are the vanguard attack dogs for a modern pogrom against the Jews? After 60 years if drumming against the Nazis and the horrible things they did to people (mainly Jews) do you really think that that is in the works? Don't you think that might be just a tiny bit paranoid? Yes I am aware of historical scapegoat status of Jews in practicaly every country on earth, but I still wonder if that could really be possible here, and that you may be erring on the side of caution, thus giving an advantage to Bushco who wants to make "antisemiticsm" a crime so no one can report on the crimes of the neocons who are mainly Jewish. <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

"the entire jewish tribe in this criminal corrupt group's crimes. is that too much to ask ? i am starting to think it is. Also, your interest should be equally to protect americans and OTHER people from those criminals. Why do you dump it on others ? do you feel entitled to sacrifice my life for yours ? on what basis ? if the guy is a menace to society, he should be gone, not shipped to israel conveniently where he can offend israelis with the consent of the CIA and the israeli gov. this is like suggesting to expell a pedophile from one school (where your son studies, eg) to another school nearby. People do that, you know, and they also have rationalizations to why those poor "other kids" deserve that."<br><br>You are way off base trying to blame me for this ..<br><br>Oh Please..the guy is /is not a criminal..<br><br>but how about focusing on him<br><br><br>"Why do you dump it on others ? do you feel entitled to sacrifice my life for yours ?"<br><br><br>I might ask you the same.<br><br><br><br>The thread is about Zacheim<br><br>who walked the halls for 25 yrs and may have set up this huge crime<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Rigorous Intuition]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"Are you insinuating..."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Well, I just mentioned Christison, but I think generally there is not enough healthy skepticism of the motives of former intelligence officers and establishment insiders when they suddenly appear to move to the "other side."<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"...vanguard attack dogs for a modern pogrom against the Jews?" </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> No. The point is, by wrapping 9/11 in the old trimmings of a "Jewish conspiracy," it poisons the well, and dissuades people of integrity and intelligence from looking deeper. It confirms the phony premise promoted by the likes of Daniel Pipes that "conspiracy theory" is code for antisemitic paranoia.<br><br>Hava is right: Dov is a criminal, and an enemy of common Israelis as much as common Americans, and we should be able to agree on that "without implicating the dead bones of the entire jewish tribe in this criminal corrupt group's crimes." But that distinction seems too fine for some, and we should ask why that is. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 9/8/06 12:06 pm<br></i>

[rocco33]

As far as Dov Zakheim, I think Jerry Mazza's article on Opinion Journal tells the story of Dov Z. quite well. Especially disturbing, IMHO, is Zakheim's relationship to SPS and DARPA. That is, DARPA of HAARP operations (which many say are tied to the amazing amount of ELF towers built since 2001 and chemtrails). <br><br>From 2003...<br><br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"Joint funding through DARPA will allow HAARP to quadruple in size from its current 960 kW output to 3.6 MW," Lampe says.<br> <br>"When completed in 2006, HAARP will then be the premier ionospheric research facility with beam-steering capabilities that other similar arrays worldwide don't have." </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><br><br>Also strange how they couldn't manage to knock down any of those Katyusha rockets considering Israel has better shoot down capabilities than even the U.S. Especially with antique WW2 rockets. Well, considering it was mainly <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://judicial-inc.biz/imiginary_dead.htm">Israeli Arabs</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> who were the victims of these "rockets", I wouldn't be surprised if this was another Israeli false-flag as Katyusha's range is only 12 miles. Haifa and Acre are 30 miles away. <br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://judicial-inc.biz/imigin13.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br>Further info on Dov and his companies...<br>.<br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"The Boeing lease deal involved the replacement of the aging KC-135 tanker fleet with these smaller, more efficient Boeing 767s that were to be leased by Dov Zakheim's group. The planes were to be refitted with refueling equipment, including lines and nozzle assemblies.”</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>“We believe with absolute certitude that right now, with the White House in our hands, the Senate in our hands and The New York Times in our hands, the lives of others do not count the same way as our own.” —Israeli journalist, Arieh Shavit</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>And to add on edit, since I've been listening intently to Mae Brussell all week, I find her research on Simon Wiesenthal and his ties to many nazi's, specifically Klaus Barbie and Josef Mengele, as well as the ultimate Malmedy Nazi invisible man Fritz Kramer. Mae was adamant that the nazi Fritz Kramer was the same Kramer that later worked in the Pentagon and was Kissingers boss and protege behind the scenes. Notice his number..."33". Hmmm....Couldn't there be some sort of meshing of both Jews and Germans today? Just because jews, or zionists, are involved, doesn't mean there aren't others as well IMO. <br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://h1.ripway.com/izzy06/MalmedyTrial.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rocco33>rocco33</A> at: 9/8/06 12:18 pm<br></i>

[darkbeforedawn]

It all refers back to the old problem which Mike Ruppert covered in his book Crossing the Rubicon: Mass media is unable to cover 9-11 in any way because of the probable role played by Mossad in 9-11. So we are all reduced to that level. As soon as any amount of real information is unearthed, we all have to shut up about it because Israel may be put at risk. Not poisoning the 9-11 truth well so that intellectuals don't have to face the truth about Israel is absurd. But as the old saying goes "everyone has to learn sometime" and it may be coming too soon for many. And when I say the truth about Israel I mean that it is controlled and run by the very same bunch of thugs as here--Thoughh the people there are probably feeling their lash in a much more papable way. <p></p><i></i>

[rocco33]

Good point dawn. I have Rupperts book but never read the whole thing. What part of the book specifically does Ruppert talk about the media unable to investigate because of Mossad's role?<br><br>Also speaking of which, anyone know anything more about the Daniel Lewin the Capt of The Sayeret Matkal, Israel's Elite Anti-Hijacking Team, that Peggy Ong named as the man with the gun doing the hijacking on Fl. 11? <br><br><br>Also, here's an interesting chart I found under the heading of "Israeli Spies Arrested in 2001"<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.nogw.com/images/israel_spies_texas.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

I already said I didn't know anything about the guy. I am suggesting, however, that if the article you posted relies on Judicial Inc....look try to go about it this way. Rather than worry about "anti-Semitism" let's think about "accuracy". That site is simply filled with obvious untruths...so much so that I think it could even be deliberate. Think I was making up the Jews killing Christians to put blood in their matzoh? Yeah, to me this is abhorrent, but if that doesn't bug you, and assuming, as I do, that you know this is total b.s., it impugns the source.<br><br>I did mention wanting to start another thread and I see you did that, so I won't get more into the rest of it.<br><br>As for three trillion missing...wouldn't that amount to the the entire pentagon budget over the last ten years? The ENTIRE budget for the U.S. government is far less than one trillion..so I guess I'm not getting how that much can go missing. in fact, it sounds like disinfo to me...maybe to discredit legitimate lines of inquiry? <br><br>Be sophisticated with info. The people who put out disinfo are. <p></p><i></i>