The 9/11 Conspiracy Nuts - Alex Cockburn

[darkbeforedawn]

Yes this paragraph is wonderfully written. But it could apply even more aptly to the "official story". The people in the truth movement--many just citizens and rank amateurs--come forward not out of any sense of delight and creativity (as insinuated in this expert smear job). Most are trying to fill the void left by the "media" and the way it is supposed to function in a democracy. The media never questioned, never examined the facts. They seem to have become an arm of the state expressing only what they are told to because the state has become "the corporation" who pays the bills of the media. The media says what its "sponsers"- the big companies mainly benefiting from war-- demand it to say. It's their job. When more media was locally owned, their job used to be getting news and views and information to the public.<br> What's your excuse qutb? <p></p><i></i>

[Qutb]

When did <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>you</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> stop beating your wife, DBD? <p></p><i></i>

[OpLan]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>like witnesses of a large plane hitting the Pentagon</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>yup..every hit piece aimed at those of us who don't believe a single grunt spat from the maw of moloch latches onto no plane at the pentagon.They could end the argument by showing us the video they must have.But they don't do that.<br>Why not?<br>Both myself and Sijepuis posted a new eyewitness video which shows explosions on the side of one of the WTC towers.Those on this board who cling to the Official Conspiracy Theory have simply ignored both threads.<br>So go on..bang on about the more contentious theories if you want to..or need to,thats up to you and your desire to believe george bush.<br>The bush worshippers are just as guilty of the sins they project onto 'conspiracy nuts'.They ignore the arguments that aren't based on pods or holograms or dubious photos,like 110 stories of reinforced concrete not displaying resistance,the walls in the basements almost giving way to the sea,complete failure of norad and FAA S.O.P. blah blah blah. and around we go again.<br>Nist won't debate the Scholars.<br>The pentagon wont release a clear video of flight 77.<br>I cant see how the 911 commision can come to any conclusions without examining WTC steel.Their theory on the tower collapses stops at the moment of collapse.<br>There has been no reconstruction of 4 jets.<br>No match ups of aircraft part numbers.<br>No fire department report into the biggest fire related disaster since when.. the chicago fire?<br>EPA lying about the air quality,and the subsequent deaths of eyewitnesses.<br>Dubious suicides and beatings.<br>Outright lies regarding no prior warning..Ashcroft stopped flying commercial planes,willy brown cancelled his 911 flight,<br>all the norad wargames regarding hijacked planes being flown into buildings..<br><br>I don't know why I am writing all this.I really shouldn't have to.<br>I have fallen into the trap of being goaded by bushites.<br><br>911 was an inside job.<br>That is as plain as the nose on your face.<br>If anyone still believes the official story after reading this blog and forum,well..I pity you.<br>The WTC was a white elephant.Rather than spend the billions needed to clean up the asbestos or pull them down safely,they put in to operation a plan they have had brewing for a long time.Conveniently destroying the paper trails for many big business fraud cases,as well as the paper trails for the pentagons missing billions.<br>In the absence of a genuine mainstream news company doing its job,or a genuine opposition party,It is only natural that those who do not believe the suspects version of events would do the investigating themselves.After five years,I think they have done a pretty good job.<br>They cannot prove their claims outright,because the suspects have buried the evidence as best they can.<br>The 'government' can't prove its theory,because it is an unverifiable pack of lies from start to finish,and involves defying the laws of gravity/physics/nature.<br><br>I think we should refrain from comments like 'when did you stop beating your wife'.They do nothing but derail the discussion. <br>911 was an inside job.Stop insulting those of us who do not believe the OCT.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Infernal Optimist]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Yes this paragraph is wonderfully written. But it could apply even more aptly to the "official story".</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Precisely, DBD. In fact, let's hear what exactly "the official story" is because 1) it changes over time and 2) it's not internally consistent.<br><br>So, you have things like: "Atta drove to Portland and caught a plane there leaving his rental car in Portland" at the same time as "Atta left his rental car at Boston and they found all sort of incriminating evidence in THAT rental car". <p></p><i></i>

[smithtalk]

another point constantly raised, <br>you couldnt have a conspiracy to destroy the towers and set it up from the inside because people would talk,<br><br>but not if they are effectively robots<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The prosecution then called a succession of young Air Force folks, who served as security for the Minuteman missiles in the silos in this area, to briefly describe the arrest and detention of Carl, Greg and Mike. Each one said the clowns were cooperative, non-violent and peaceful.<br><br>At the conclusion of the first soldier's testimony, Fr. Kabat asked him, "Do you know what was in the ground at Echo-9?" The flustered airman said, "No, sir, I do not." "You don't know what is in the ground there?" Fr. Kabat asked again incredulously. "No sir," repeated the helicopter airman. The courtroom was stunned.<br><br>For the next half hour, every one of the rest of the young Air Force people called as witnesses by the government either said they did not know what was in the ground, or refused to answer Fr. Carl, saying "that is not my area of expertise, sir."<br><br>Not one single soldier acknowledged that they were guarding nuclear weapons!</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>from counterpunch today <p></p><i></i>