BBC reported WTC7 collapse 23 minutes BEFORE it happened!!!

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BBC reported WTC7 collapse 23 minutes BEFORE it happened!!!

Postby 11:11 » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:57 am

I didn't see this here, so -

An astounding video uncovered from the archives today shows the BBC reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell at 5:20pm on the afternoon of 9/11. The incredible footage shows BBC reporter Jane Standley talking about the collapse of the Salomon Brothers Building while it remains standing in the live shot behind her head.

Minutes before the actual collapse of the building is due, the feed to the reporter mysteriously dies.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/fe ... lding7.htm


Google, of course, pulled the video, but too late. It's all over the web.
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Postby tsoldrin » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:46 am

This opens up a monsterous can of worms that actually makes it more difficult to convince people of the plain and simple every day facts. MY guess is that this will be debunked in short order along with the pods, holograms and photon torpedoes. Pity is that none of that was ever needed in the first place to prove complicity and open a real investigation. The truth movement once again sets us back several years... big fucking surprise.

Infiltrated, obfuscated and subjugated... where to turn?
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Postby tsoldrin » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:48 am

FUCK even more... this does not comply with any but the most out there theories to begin with, so what kind of grasping at straws douchbag would even bring it to attention? THAT is what everyone should be asking. The people bringing this 'new' theory are the sames ones who's theory this debunks. I call bullshit.
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Postby 11:11 » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:02 am

You might call bullshit, but this is not some wacked theory, like pods and holograms. This is archived footage of a major news organization reporting something that hasn't yet happened. My guess is the reporter didn't know where WTC7 was, or what it looked like. She only reported something somebody fed to her. Now, who was it?

This is damning information. Using your logic, any evidence only muddies the waters. This is important news.
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:27 am

Amazing. There she is telling us that 7 has fallen and they scan the background and there it is, 7 standing. The time is irrelevant, but only if one makes the assumption that the background is real time and watching her gesturing to the view out the window gives every indication that it is. The lighting is also consistent. The feed breaks up and then it comes back now showing 7 down. Man, that looks squirrelly.
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Postby 11:11 » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:42 am

This really is some good shit. I've been watching the debunkers and blue pill people trying to deal with this one. The best they come up with is that it's a greenscreen (like the weather peeps use) of earlier in the day. It's obviously a live shot, with moving smoke being reflected in the pane of glass to her right (left in video).
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:59 am

You can do moving images in a green screen, but it looks live to me. I don't know what that reflective thing is off to the left, maybe, with all the fancy glop they put in newscasts it's a split screen?
Very odd and I think it's an important find. I think they will weasel out of it by saying that ... well yes we knew it would fall and had a release written up and just made a mistake by releasing it early. Quite unconvincing since the mistake is repeated by the male newcaster earlier.
Personally I think it is genuine, a genuine rip in the news matrix.
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Postby tsoldrin » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:59 am

Maybe I am just to jaded... tell me... if this all proves out, do you think it will lead to trials, convictions and hangings? 'Cause nothing less will satisfy me.
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:01 am

It should. I don't know if it will, but I have rope.
Add it to the rest of the evidence, it's past time to have new hearings, but if those were to come about I would expect them to be hijacked as well.
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Postby orz » Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:36 am

Interesting, but what is this supposed to prove? If someone did know in advance that WTC 7 was gonna be demolished, then what scenario could explain that info getting to the BBC and being reported as fact? What reason would there be for someone to want the BBC to make this report early? How (if at all) does this support CD or any other theory?

Most likely/boring explanation seems to me to be that the BBC made a mistake and were actually talking about another collapsed building, got the name wrong, or that it is not in fact WTC7 in the background and Alex Jones and co. have got it wrong. I've not researched either of these so they may not be possible tho.
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Postby orz » Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:50 am

11:11 wrote:This really is some good shit. I've been watching the debunkers and blue pill people trying to deal with this one. The best they come up with is that it's a greenscreen


Yeah I've just been reading comment threads for the video, pretty moronic all round for the most part, debunkers and conspiracicts alike.

So; the best they can come up with is that it's a greenscreen. Ok, what's the best we can come up with then?

Because personally I don't haven't yet an actualy coherent explanation of what this video is supposed to prove, or of how it might have feasibly come to pass if it is in fact as described. What's euphamistically hinted at is that the BBC were 'in on it' and knew that WTC7 was going to be demolished. This makes no real sense obviously. So what's the alternative?
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:05 pm

If a TV came out with the story that the Arizona has exploded at Pearl Harbor with a real time image of the Arizona intact that would be noteworthy, no?

The question for me is, who wrote the press release? Who was able to write such a definitive statement before the event?

Yes, it indicates foreknowledge of the WTC7 collapse.
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Postby 11:11 » Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:01 pm

The BBC has been forced to respond to footage showing their correspondent reporting the collapse of WTC 7 before it fell on 9/11, claiming tapes from the day are somehow missing, and refusing to identify the source for their bizarre act of "clairvoyance" in accurately pre-empting the fall of Building 7.

Here is the BBC's response to the questions about the footage that was unearthed yesterday, with my comments after each statement.

1. We're not part of a conspiracy. Nobody told us what to say or do on September 11th. We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down. We didn't receive press releases or scripts in advance of events happening.

"We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down." If this is true, then how on earth did the BBC report the collapse of Building 7 before it happened? Psychic clairvoyance? Of course they were told that WTC 7 was coming down, just like the firefighters, police, first responders and CNN were told it was coming down. They had to have had a source for making such a claim. The BBC is acting like the naughty little boy who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. No one here is claiming the BBC are "part of the conspiracy," but their hideous penchant to just repeat what authorities tell them without even a cursory investigation (and with the Building they are telling us has collapsed mockingly filling the background shot of the report), is a damning indictment of their yellow journalism when it comes to 9/11.

2. In the chaos and confusion of the day, I'm quite sure we said things which turned out to be untrue or inaccurate - but at the time were based on the best information we had. We did what we always did - sourced our reports, used qualifying words like "apparently" or "it's reported" or "we're hearing" and constantly tried to check and double check the information we were receiving.

How do "chaos and confusion" explain how the BBC reported on the collapse of a building, a collapse that happened "unexpectedly" according to their Conspiracy Files hit piece documentary, before it happened? In one breath the BBC is claiming they were not told of the impending collapse of the Building and in the next they are telling us that all their information is sourced. Which is it to be? Did the BBC have a source telling them the building was about to collapse or not? If not, how on earth could they pre-empt its fall? Do BBC reporters have access to a time machine? What was the source of this information?

3. Our reporter Jane Standley was in New York on the day of the attacks, and like everyone who was there, has the events seared on her mind. I've spoken to her today and unsurprisingly, she doesn't remember minute-by-minute what she said or did - like everybody else that day she was trying to make sense of what she was seeing; what she was being told; and what was being told to her by colleagues in London who were monitoring feeds and wires services.

Trying to make sense of what she was being told? She obviously didn't make much sense of the fact that the Building she was reporting had collapsed was prominently standing behind her! Unfotunately, for a news organization that prides itself on accuracy and credibility, "she doesn't remember" just doesn't cut it as an excuse.



4. We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it. We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another.

We are asked to believe that the world's premiere news organization has somehow lost all its tapes of perhaps the biggest news event of the past 60 years. This is a copout. Whether they have lost the tapes or not, the BBC simply doesn't want to verify one hundred per cent their monumental foul-up, because they know it would only increase the exposure of this issue and lead to further questions. What is there to clear up? The reporter is standing in front of the building while saying it has already collapsed! This is a blatant effort to try and placate people making complaints while refusing to admit a monumental faux pas that further undermines the BBC's credibility in the aftermath of the Conspiracy Files debacle.

5. If we reported the building had collapsed before it had done so, it would have been an error - no more than that. As one of the comments on You Tube says today "so the guy in the studio didn't quite know what was going on? Woah, that totally proves conspiracy... "

So now the BBC are so devoid of answers, they have to enlist the help of some moronic comment on a You Tube blog? Instead of issuing official statements and seeking the advice of legal professionals they produce a cobbled together five paragraph blog and include the testimony of some moron on a You Tube comment board. Pathetic! Answer the question BBC - what was your source for reporting on multiple occasions that Building 7 had collapsed before it had collapsed, and identify the source that enabled the anchorman to comment that the building had collapsed due to it being weakened, an explanation still unanswered by NIST five and a half years later.

If you had reported the collapse of the twin towers before it happened would that have been just an error too? This "error" translated as $800 million plus in insurance bounty for Larry Silverstein - I'm sure Industrial Risk Insurers would be interested to know the source of your "error." In addition, two seperate sources reported that Secret Service Agent Craig Miller died as a result of the collapse of Building 7. Do you think he would have been interested in the "error" that led to your correspondent reporting the building's downfall in advance?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/fe ... sponds.htm



hahaha, the BBC lost/got rid of the most important archive footage since WII? Yeah, rrrright. This is IT, people. This is a MAJOR fuck up, and the BBC can't make it go away. God bless Alex Jones.
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:31 pm

They lost the footage.

I really thought the BBC would come up with something halfway believable. I thought they would admit that they knew it was coming down, after all there are a number of reports, most prominently Silverstein, and claim they wrote the copy and just released it early. This is so weak that one has to consider whether they actually want to keep things juiced.

I'm sure Industrial Risk Insurers would be interested to know the source of your "error."

And I bet their stockholders might find this of interest as well.

Kudos to Jones and Watson and whoever uncoverd this.
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Postby orz » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:15 am

Well we are talking about the corporation who taped over the masters of numerous early Dr. Who episodes back in the day...
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