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Disinformation and the False LIHOP/MIHOP Dichotomy

Postby Arabesque » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:49 am

Disinformation and the Misleading and False LIHOP/MIHOP Dichotomy
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By Arabesque

Accuracy in language is important. Reality is often far more complex than can usually be understood with simplistic terminology. By definition, labels and phrases like “9/11 was an inside job”, “MIHOP”, “LIHOP”, “conspiracy theories”, and “War on Terror” are frequently used to simplify reality into small and easily comprehensible packages. While often helpful, translating reality into black and white labels is often misleading and inaccurate. This can even be purposeful and deliberate as frequently seen in politics and the mainstream media. The events of 9/11 are controversial and misunderstood by many and one significant culprit for this situation is the misleading and inaccurate usage of language to describe what happened. Understanding the role of disinformation and misinformation is essential to form a complete and accurate understanding of the 9/11 attacks.[1] What is disinformation? Jim Fetzer explains that “while ‘misinformation’ can be simply defined as false, mistaken, or misleading information, ‘disinformation’ entails the distribution, assertion, or dissemination of false, mistaken, or misleading information in an intentional, deliberate, or purposeful effort to mislead, deceive, or confuse.”[2]


The Misleading and False MIHOP/LIHOP Dichotomy

As observed, simplification is often achieved through the use of labels. Though they are frequently helpful, labels and descriptive terms can lend themselves to misuse, over-simplification, and distortion when used in a misleading context. The most significant example of this within the 9/11 truth movement is the misleading and false “Made it Happen on Purpose” (MIHOP) and “Let it Happen on Purpose” (LIHOP) dichotomy. What is a false dichotomy? George Bush gave us this famous example in his response to the 9/11 attacks: “Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.”[3] False dichotomies such as these are commonly used to inaccurately frame debates in political discourse.


The MIHOP and LIHOP labels were purportedly coined by Nico Haupt in 2002: “I invented the acronym ‘LIHOP’ at the same time [we] created [the] ‘9/11 Science and Justice Alliance’.”[5] Consequently, these terms were widely adopted and “MIHOP” was popularized in the book 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA by Webster Tarpley:

“This book argues the rogue network MIHOP position. That is to say, it represents the analytical point of view which sees the events of September 11, 2001 as a deliberate provocation manufactured by an outlaw network of high officials infesting the military and security apparatus of the United States and Great Britain, a network ultimately dominated by Wall Street and City of London financiers. It is our contention that any other approach… misrepresents what actually happened in the terror attacks.”[6]

When clearly defined as seen in the above passage, MIHOP is a coherent thesis that can be analyzed and critiqued. In fact, it is not even necessary to use the word “MIHOP” to forward this thesis. The labels LIHOP and MIHOP are like an empty drinking glass ready to be filled with clarification and context—left unfilled, they specify almost nothing. As such, the terms MIHOP and LIHOP themselves are also easily misused when employed without clarification leaving them vague, misleading, and open-ended. Discussing his book in an interview with Alex Jones, Tarpley explained that:

“This is the only book that gives strong MIHOP… There is the negligence theory, not wearing well. Then there is LIHOP, Let it happen on purpose, like the Arab hijackers have some kind of independent reality. Like Ruppert's Crossing the Rubicon. This also has not worn well. Then MIHOP, Make it happen, that the patsies are controlled assets, they don't make it happen, the professionals make it happen under the cover of drills.”[7]

In the preface to the second edition of Synthetic Terror, Tarpley repeats the charge that “[the] LIHOP view of things has been vociferously and voluminously defended by Mike Ruppert, whose book features the constant refrain borrowed from Delmart ‘Mike’ Vreeland, 'Let one happen. Stop the rest!’”[8] In the above passages, Tarpley makes a comparison between LIHOP and MIHOP by referencing Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert.[9] However, the largely undefined terms MIHOP and LIHOP are inaccurate and clumsy when taken out of context, often lending themselves very well to straw-man assertions.[10] Is Ruppert’s book “LIHOP”? From page 1 of Crossing the Rubicon:

“While these attacks were arguably one of the most serious homicides ever committed, the investigation and ‘prosecution’… has never even approached the legal and logical standards governing all such investigations. Regardless of whom the suspect(s) turns out to be, these are the basic questions every homicide investigator must seek to answer in the course of the investigation… In the end the only ‘suspects’ found to meet all of these criteria will not be al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. They will instead be a group of people operating within certain government agencies, including the White House, for the benefit of major financial interests within the United States and in other countries.”[11]

Ruppert’s thesis is almost identical to the one given in Tarpley’s book. Since this is the case, how can Tarpley make the charge that Ruppert is arguing “LIHOP”? As 9/11 researcher Jim Hoffman observes, Ruppert “has done a great deal of work on documenting the role of government agencies, such as the CIA, in the September 11th attack.”[12] Elsewhere in his book, Ruppert expands on his actual thesis while clearly insinuating that the alleged hijackers could not have flown the aircraft on 9/11:

“The 9/11 terrorists did not act on their own volition. The suicide hijackers were instruments in a carefully planned intelligence operation… I [am] absolutely convinced that… the so-called hijackers… could not have accomplished the flying required on 9/11... Their behavior was more consistent with the creation of a detailed “legend” to make the public believe they had done the deed... The technology to fly airliners by remote control or, what the air force calls remotely piloted vehicles (RPVs), has been around since the 1960s... Like any “well-planned” government operation, the planning and initial preparations for what became 9/11 had begun in the Clinton administration as a contingency plan. That’s when the 19 so-called hijackers (and/or their handlers) began establishing their legends... Some of these “terrorists” had been turned by US, British, or Israeli intelligence long before 9/11. Some were probably long-time, deep-cover field agents... I believe that the so-called hijackers who had received this training were probably part of an ultra-secret US military and intelligence joint operation “Opposition Force,” or OPFOR, which routinely played bad guys in hijack exercises around the world and inside the US...What is clear is that the government’s assertions that 19 hijackers, funded from caves in Afghanistan, were able to execute what happened on September 11th is beyond ludicrous.”[13]

Clearly, Ruppert implies that the planes were flown by remote control, the hijackers were patsies, and the attacks were a “well-planned government operation”—almost exactly what Tarpley argues in his book. If Ruppert’s suspects included members of the White House and the CIA but excluded the alleged terrorists—how could his book “vociferously” argue “LIHOP” as Tarpley suggests? Not surprisingly, if Tarpley can make a stunning mischaracterization of Ruppert’s thesis, lesser researchers and rank and file activists are even more prone to misuse these labels. Not only can “LIHOP” and “MIHOP” mean different things to different people, their meaning can easily change when they are not clearly defined or clarified. On their own, the words “made” and “let” are as simple and basic as exist within the English language, while “it” can mean anything that happened on 9/11. Both imply intent with the phrase “on purpose”.


If the MIHOP/LIHOP dichotomy is agreed to be divisive, misleading, and inaccurate (i.e. disinformation or misinformation), what terms should we use instead? “Inside Job” and “insider complicity” are far more descriptive and accurate labels, but even these have problems of their own depending on how they are used to frame understanding of the 9/11 attacks. Although more useful and precise than the false LIHOP/MIHOP dichotomy, "inside job" suffers from a similar problem. On its own, it starts with the conclusion and assumes that the intended audience knows the necessary facts. In this context, "inside job" is useful to those who know the evidence, and useless to those who do not. When terms are not supported by compelling facts or explanation, descriptive labels have limited power to encourage new members to the join the 9/11 truth movement or convince them that the official story is false. On their own, labels and terms are not enough—education and unmasking the disinformation supporting the 9/11 ‘official story’ is necessary to reach new activists, researchers and force an investigation.


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Postby FourthBase » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:02 am

Thanks! Good stuff!
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Postby Hammer of Los » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:08 am

Yes, a good read, the point is exceptionally well made.

Certainly I'll bookmark this blog.

I shall say I turned my nose up at the lihop/mihop argument from the moment it raised its ugly head. I hope I don't sound too boastful if I say that I clearly flagged it as a (possibly deliberately manufactured and/or widely disseminated) false dichotomy from its inception.

The article raised a couple of additional interesting points. Firstly, and perhaps not surprisingly, it seems Nico Haupt was responsible for coining these terms. Secondly I was rather disappointed to see that Webster Tarpley had been mud-slinging at Ruppert using these terms. I don't like to see that.

A lot of new labels have been introduced to the 911 movement.

Labels which on the whole do not work to assist in the spread of the recognition of the truth of 911 inside job. By which I mean labels such as "LIHOP/MIHOP," "Truther," "Plane-hugger," "No-planer," "Pod People" and so on. You might even want to add some coined not so very far from here, such as "New Truth" and "Old Truth."

These labels only serve to distract and confuse, to marginalise, splinter and ridicule, to cause divisiveness and ill-feeling amongst those working to widely disseminate the truth of 911 inside job.
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Postby orz » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:51 am

I shall say I turned my nose up at the lihop/mihop argument from the moment it raised its ugly head. I hope I don't sound too boastful if I say that I clearly flagged it as a (possibly deliberately manufactured and/or widely disseminated) false dichotomy from its inception.

Absolutely. Rival camps defined by made-up jargon terms are a sure sign of a move from serious investigation and activism to an insular internet fandom; full of petty squabbles with no impact on the real world.


I believe in SEEHOP - Something Else Entirely Happened on Purpose. :)
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SEEHOP

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:06 am

orz wrote:.....
I believe in SEEHOP - Something Else Entirely Happened on Purpose. :)


Cracked me up and I spilled a really good beer.

TLOPAINYT.
(The laws of physics apply in New York, too.)

I think the LIHOP provided cover for an unexpected MIHOP.

The entire military-intelligence community had been primed since before 12/31/99 for The Big One.

And lots of double agents were running around leaving little trails of cheese.

I think many in the alphabet soup expected that someone's little rats were, just like the WTC bombing of 1993, going to be allowed to do something nasty and justify all their paychecks and promotions.

But few expected the WTC to be rigged for a controlled demolition that started the Final War for Earth.

And all those people complicit in the expected LIHOP were now compelled to shut up when it went down like Fox's 'Lone Gunmen' TV episode.
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Demolition

Postby Lord Balto » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:43 pm

This reminds me of something I came across recently in some video or other. It seems that there was a serious attempt to demolish the Trade Center because it was losing money hand over fist, but the plan was turned down because of all the asbestos that would be released. Looks like someone managed to get around the environmental laws.
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Re: Demolition

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:02 am

Lord Balto wrote:..... Looks like someone managed to get around the environmental laws.


Yup.

And I think the op's contention about a "false dichotomy between LIHOP and MIHOP" is a simple point turned into a mountain. Ironic since the intent is to undo this kerfuffle that can have COINTELPRO divisive dynamics.

Hey, at first LIHOP was all anyone thought could be established.
But now we know that controlled demolition is irrefutably proven and MIHOP is the TRUTH in 9/11 Truth.

Unfortunately, some 9/11 Truth-ers are late to catch up to this fact and are instead going into "let's not argue opinions because that's divisive" when OPINION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAWS OF PHYSICS.

1) Controlled demolition of three WTC buildings (MIHOP) is proven by
-laws of physics
-all physical evidence
-all characteristics of the events
-all photo/video images of the events
-the eyewitnessing of the emergency workers whose oral histories
were suppressed until August 2005.

2) It is called 9/11 TRUTH.
As in, what really happened is still important, not just debunking the USG cover story.

3) There is a huge difference for ascribing guilt, complicity, and accountability between
LIHOP and MIHOP. A huge difference.

So let the MIHOPers stick to the facts and use good will and perseverance to encourage the LIHOPers to catch up to the facts.

Because you don't ignore PROOF to go-along-get-along with a few people.
THAT would truly be giving in to COINTELPRO tactics!
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:21 am

Hugh the trouble is a lot of people don't accept that er, proof.
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Re: Demolition

Postby Arabesque » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:49 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:
Lord Balto wrote:..... Looks like someone managed to get around the environmental laws.


Yup.

And I think the op's contention about a "false dichotomy between LIHOP and MIHOP" is a simple point turned into a mountain. Ironic since the intent is to undo this kerfuffle that can have COINTELPRO divisive dynamics.

Hey, at first LIHOP was all anyone thought could be established.
But now we know that controlled demolition is irrefutably proven and MIHOP is the TRUTH in 9/11 Truth.

Unfortunately, some 9/11 Truth-ers are late to catch up to this fact and are instead going into "let's not argue opinions because that's divisive" when OPINION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAWS OF PHYSICS.

1) Controlled demolition of three WTC buildings (MIHOP) is proven by
-laws of physics
-all physical evidence
-all characteristics of the events
-all photo/video images of the events
-the eyewitnessing of the emergency workers whose oral histories
were suppressed until August 2005.

2) It is called 9/11 TRUTH.
As in, what really happened is still important, not just debunking the USG cover story.

3) There is a huge difference for ascribing guilt, complicity, and accountability between
LIHOP and MIHOP. A huge difference.

So let the MIHOPers stick to the facts and use good will and perseverance to encourage the LIHOPers to catch up to the facts.

Because you don't ignore PROOF to go-along-get-along with a few people.
THAT would truly be giving in to COINTELPRO tactics!


COINTELPRO's primary purpose is divide and conquer. This is exactly accomplished by spending more energy fighting over disagreements (especially straw-man debates with misleading terms) when this energy can be used to inform and educate the public. MIHOP and LIHOP are primarily used for this purpose.

LIHOP and MIHOP are vague, meaningless, straw-man slogans that are only used to define opinions about what happened, not establish facts. The terms are ultimately propaganda. They don't inform. They are opinions substituted in the place of facts.

Arabesque wrote: * Who made it happen?
* What happened?
* How did it happen?
* Why did it happen?
* Why is the official story wrong?
* Which parts of the official story are wrong?
* What parts are true?
* And most importantly, how can you prove it?

These are all questions that MIHOP and LIHOP do not answer when they are not followed with explanation or precise definition; on their own these terms are virtually meaningless. They avoid the complex nature of reality by avoiding subtlety and nuance.


In this role, they only divide by placing emphasis on opinions about what happened, when the subject should be about what happened--the facts as they stand.

Controlled demolition is not "9/11 truth". It is only a small subset of the subject. It does not establish motive. It does not even name definitive suspects. Some are only too happy to theorize that Zionists planted the bombs. But is there evidence who did? Not yet. That's why another investigation is critical. Many are not convinced by CD, but are convinced by other types of evidence.

Only the full picture can establish what happened, and it is a fallacy to claim that the planes were not "allowed" to hit their targets, even while at the same time being "made" to fly into them. The terms are Orwellian doublethink--likely a tool used to manipulate the 9/11 truth movement to fight with each other; the 9/11 attacks were both made and allowed to happen, not one or the other. I detailed this in my essay in some depth.

Arabesque wrote:My thesis is that the LIHOP/MIHOP dichotomy is:

* Distorted and misleading since "let" and "made" are hopelessly vague if not clearly defined.
* A false dichotomy. The 9/11 attacks involved both "allow" and "made" coordination; intentional “failures”, intentional planning to allow the attacks to be successful, and deliberate participation in the attacks. The LIHOP theory incorrectly implies that a massively coordinated “failure” was not MADE to happen, while the MIHOP label is often absurdly used to imply that parts of the attack were not ALLOWED to happen.
* Ambiguous for its user. Meaningless if the terms are not specifically qualified, commonly resulting in straw-man arguments. They are often ineffectively employed as empty rhetoric; assertions frequently framed without supporting explanation or argument. By themselves, they are empty containers; conclusions without analysis or even clarification.
* Ambiguous for its intended audience. Uniquely perceived by the intended audience when terms are not clearly defined.
* Virtually identical. Both emphasize insider complicity, while encompassing many of the same types of evidence.
* Divisive. Used to falsely frame the 9/11 truth movement as being divided


Jeff Wells wrote:“Binary thinking is a mind cancer that retards insight, and unfortunately flourishes in conspiracy culture. ‘The beginning of wisdom,’ said Terrence McKenna, ‘is our ability to accept an inherent messiness in our explanation of what's going on.’”


George Orwell wrote:“You can shirk it by simply throwing your mind open and letting the ready-made phrases come crowding in. They will construct your sentences for you—even think your thoughts for you, to a certain extent—and at need they will perform the important service of partially concealing your meaning even from yourself. It is at this point that the special connection between politics and the debasement of language becomes clear.”
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Re: Demolition is physics, not COINTELPRO

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:30 am

Hey, Arabesque.
It is it too hard to admit that Newtonian physics applies to NYCity?
That's a yes/no subject and not about opinion.

This is the single most effective way to PROVE that 9/11 was an inside job to newbies.

Arabesque wrote:.....

LIHOP and MIHOP are vague, meaningless, straw-man slogans that are only used to define opinions about what happened, not establish facts. The terms are ultimately propaganda. They don't inform. They are opinions substituted in the place of facts.


No. LIHOP and MIHOP mean very specific and understandable things.
They happen to overlap, that's all.
This isn't too complicated per my post above about many expecting a convenient LIHOP like WTC '93 but being surprised to find they are complicit in a MIHOP when the WTC is rigged with bombs and thermite for a Grand Finale ala Pearl Harbor II.

Controlled demolition is not "9/11 truth". It is only a small subset of the subject. It does not establish motive. It does not even name definitive suspects. Some are only too happy to theorize that Zionists planted the bombs. But is there evidence who did? Not yet. That's why another investigation is critical. Many are not convinced by CD, but are convinced by other types of evidence.


True that people are convinced by various types of evidence.

BUT why deny controlled demolition while the laws of physics make it a PROOF?
You turn down an easy to understand PROOF? What are you thinking?!

Consider what is proven by just the cover-up of controlled demolition.
Not just false flag terrorism on 9/11 but also the WHOLE PSY-OP COVER-UP SYSTEM that has been in place since WWII. And that implies rewriting 20th century history.

That is also PROVEN and an even more culture changing AHA! than 9/11 Truth.

Only the full picture can establish what happened, and it is a fallacy to claim that the planes were not "allowed" to hit their targets, even while at the same time being "made" to fly into them. The terms are Orwellian doublethink--likely a tool used to manipulate the 9/11 truth movement to fight with each other; the 9/11 attacks were both made and allowed to happen, not one or the other.


Hunh? "Only the full picture..."?
Only the 9/11 Truth deniers claim that the whole explanation is mandatory, all or nothing. WRONG.

I can't even tell what you wrote above means about planes and doublethink.
Um, just don't throw out the baby with the dirty bath water, ok?

Stick to proven facts. Laws of physics are a good starting place.

>The first level of cover story is "bin Laden done it to us." War on Terror.
>The second level of cover story is "USG let it happen on purpose." LIHOP.
>The third level is THE TRUTH, they probably controlled those planes but DEFINITELY blew up those buildings (MIHOP) when many alphabeters were expecting something smaller, just LIHOP.


Jeff Wells wrote:“Binary thinking is a mind cancer that retards insight, and unfortunately flourishes in conspiracy culture. ‘The beginning of wisdom,’ said Terrence McKenna, ‘is our ability to accept an inherent messiness in our explanation of what's going on.’”


As someone who has been on Jeff Wells' board for a few years, I can assure you that he doesn't get the basics of physical evidence and I wouldn't quote his pot-holder aphorisms relating to 9/ 11.

Either you admit Newton's Conservation of Momentum law of physics applies to NYC
or
you don't.

That's VALID binary thinking, not just "divisive cointelpro."

The name "9/11 Truth" is binary thinking. It implies that there is True and False. :idea:

on edit: less impatience over lack of clarity and lack of recognizing certainty, my pet peeve
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