How to photoshop a Pulitzer Prize - The Carmen Taylor pics

[DoYouEverWonder]

There has been a lot of debate regarding the pictures Carmen Taylor took of 'Flight 175' hitting WTC 2 and the Michael Hezarkhani video. It appears that both CT and MH must have been very close to each other, when they captured these images. The claim that two people captured very similar images has been used to bolster the proof that indeed Flight 175 did hit the 2nd Tower.

But are these different images from two different cameras? I think not. My take is that there was an original hi res video, set up in advance to capture the hit. From this original, both CT's still shots and MH's video were manipulated copies. Neither CT's stills or MH's video are originals. Then the same clipart 'plane' was inserted into both CT's pics and the MZ video, but the one in CT's pics was a little larger then the one they put in the videos. That's why it's hard to make everything match up. This is no longer a problem, when you break the CT pics into three separate components that can be manipulated separately. Then all the pieces of the puzzle fit back together nice and neat.

Since we will probably never have access to the hi res original, it is not possible to reverse some of the manipulations, but it's still possible to show how both of these images did indeed originate from the same camera.

Plate #1: The top right image is the one CT supposedly took. I used the highest resolution version of this image that I could find. The top left image is a screen capture from MH's video at about the same time that CT took her picture. Again, I went back to the original long version of the video and did my own screen capture.

From there I've broken CT's image into three pieces, WTC 2, the Whitehall Building and the Plane. Then I was able to stretched and slightly rotated these pieces individually.




Plate #2: With the pieces from CT's image, individually stretched and rotated, first I've show how each one fits over the HM screen capture and then the last image is a composite of all three pieces from CT's image, overlaying the image from MH's video. The last picture on Plate 2, is all 3 pieces overlaying the original MZ video. They fit perfectly now.



The main difference now is that CT's image was sharpened and MH's image was darkened and blurred. If I had access to the original, I could probably recreate these effects too. One thing is for sure though, CT did not take these pictures with a crappy Sony Mavica and floppy disks.

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/d ... ic_id=9545

Edited: For clarification

[DoYouEverWonder]

Mike's Computer is a website (http://mikescomputerinfo.com/picstragedy1.htm) that hosts the images in the composite below. The one in the box that's framed in red is the infamous Pulitzer Prize winning picture that Carmen Taylor claims she took from a boat docked at Battery Park.




There are a total of 12 images on Mike's Computer and they were all of very high quality. Nowhere does Mike explain who took these pictures or why he is hosting them on his website. But when I first found them, I assumed they were all taken by the same person.

Pictures from the south side of the WTC are rare, especially such good ones. Even rarer is that someone was just in the right place, at just the right time, to capture the back side of the first explosion in WTC1 !!! Then the same person captures another rare shot of the 2nd 'plane' hitting WTC2. Carmen claims she took a number of pictures. Does she lay claim to all of these pictures or just some of them?

Now I know, there's been a lot of debate about where was Carmen when she took her famous pictures, but if she took most or all of these pictures, then her stories stinks even more then it already does.

Why?

Because whoever took these pictures wasn't using a Sony Mavica and they weren't sitting in one place on a boat. They were in different locations but ended up close to were they started at the end. Follow the images from left to right to see what I mean.

[orz]

I don't get it, the ones in the original post just look like they're taken from a slightly different angle and also possibly the video grabs are distorted due to incorrect pixel ratio or something?

That's why it's hard to make everything match up

Or you know... they're two different pictures with time and perspective differences?

Urgh i should stay out of this subforum for my own health.

[Jeff]

That reminds me - please note:

Advocating or advancing theories contending that no planes whatsoever struck the WTC is not permitted, and such threads will be subject to locking, moving to the Fire Pit, or deletion.

[DoYouEverWonder]

That reminds me - please note:

Advocating or advancing theories contending that no planes whatsoever struck the WTC is not permitted, and such threads will be subject to locking, moving to the Fire Pit, or deletion.

to post a thread that violates RI rules.

Since your forum does allows discussion on everything from UFOs, to lizard people to space beams, I am surprised and disappointed that original work like mine is not welcome here.

Peace
DYEW

[Jeff]

to post a thread that violates RI rules.

I know it wasn't. And I know it may seem an exceptional rule, but it was a judgement call of mine to set some broad parameters for the board's discussion of 9/11.

[DoYouEverWonder]

I don't get it, the ones in the original post just look like they're taken from a slightly different angle and also possibly the video grabs are distorted due to incorrect pixel ratio or something?

That's why it's hard to make everything match up

Or you know... they're two different pictures with time and perspective differences?

Urgh i should stay out of this subforum for my own health.

I would love to be able to answer your questions and explain my work, but apparently that is not allowed here.

Here's a link to the same thread on Progressive Independent for anyone whose interested. I'll be glad to answer questions over there.

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/d ... c_id=10094

[orz]

That's why they spend so much time and energy with their misinfo agents, like FFG, who try to convince us that the pictures are real.

...don't think i'll bother but thanks anyway.

[orz]

Argh browsing that forum makes me so much more grateful for this one, despite my disagreements here and there...

is what happened to all of the 'stuff'? I'm sure some of these executives had very fancy office suites with lots of metal, marble and stone? What about the bathrooms. Every floor had at least two, if not more. Where are the ceramic sinks, toilets and urinals? Where are the banks of computers? Filing cabinets? Office desks? Refrigerators? Pocketbooks, wallets & briefcases? Where are all the elevators? All of the copy machines? Stuff that shouldn't disintegrate in 10 seconds.

It's almost like the buildings were mostly empty.

[DoYouEverWonder]

Mr Wilson has one of the best online image libraries of Ground Zero after 9/11. There are 100's of hi-res pictures at this link. Please try to find a picture that shows any of the above listed contents.


http://bocadigital.smugmug.com/gallery/ ... 7707_XHvCn


Or borrow a copy of Joel Meyerowitz's Aftermath and try to find these things. Good luck.

Of don't do anything and continue to waste your time insulting people on Internet forums.

A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Argh browsing that forum makes me so much more grateful for this one, despite my disagreements here and there...

is what happened to all of the 'stuff'? I'm sure some of these executives had very fancy office suites with lots of metal, marble and stone? What about the bathrooms. Every floor had at least two, if not more. Where are the ceramic sinks, toilets and urinals? Where are the banks of computers? Filing cabinets? Office desks? Refrigerators? Pocketbooks, wallets & briefcases? Where are all the elevators? All of the copy machines? Stuff that shouldn't disintegrate in 10 seconds.

It's almost like the buildings were mostly empty.

[Lord Balto]

Well, obviously, you need planes so you can blame it all on the Arabs and use it as an excuse to steal their oil. And it has to be easier to use real planes than to jump through all kinds of hoops to fake photos and videos.

As for the catastrophic collapse of the buildings and the "missing" debris, I think too little attention has been paid to the fact that both buildings collapsed in exactly the same manner. This was no random event. The explosives were placed precisely and the destruction was planned exactly, but they made the mistake of doing both buildings exactly the same, something that would not, could not, happen in the real world. I can see how this would lead to notions of particle beams and dark weapons, but what we're really looking at is MILITARY PRECISION. But like most military folks, these characters had little imagination. Blow up two buildings? Set them up exactly the same for the same results. Push button A: BOOM! Push button B: BOOM! Then take down the building where the buttons are with the same military precision. And then cart off the evidence for recycling in China.

[slimmouse]

And then cart off the evidence for recycling in China.

To be part of the stadia of the 2008 olympics.

Could you make it up ?

[Elvis]

I just have to say, it's so monumentally preposterous to say that no planes hit the towers.

A close friend of mine watched with her own eyes the second plane come in and hit the building. (...or is this where the "holograms" come in?)

Jeeeeez... get real! I have an open mind but cannot fathom the reasons for this "no planes" noise.


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[Lord Balto]

I just have to say, it's so monumentally preposterous to say that no planes hit the towers.

A close friend of mine watched with her own eyes the second plane come in and hit the building. (...or is this where the "holograms" come in?)

Jeeeeez... get real! I have an open mind but cannot fathom the reasons for this "no planes" noise.


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I for one do not claim that no planes hit the tower. This is a classical strawman. What I do claim is that steel-framed buildings do not collapse like they were intentionally demolished--certainly not THREE in one day--unless they were in fact demolished. As for who flew the planes, there is no more evidence they were Arabs than that Lee Harvey Oswald ran up the steps to the 6th floor at just the right time and then ran down again at just the right time to be seen just 90 seconds after the assassination of JFK, or that Robert Kennedy was not shot twice in the back according to the official autopsy. The veneer of lies in all these cases is so thin anyone with half a brain can see right through it.

[Elvis]

Lord Balto, thanks for the reply. I'm with you on those points (and didn't mean to imply you were arguing 'no planes').

(and what makes me lean---not all the way---toward "demolition" is all that molten steel at the bottom of the wreckage, implying thermite; I haven't heard any sound alternative explanation for the molten steel.)