Spitzer Not Acting on 9/11 Criminal Investigation Petition

by **st4** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:29 am

From <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/">www.911blogger.com/</a> Spitzer Still Not Acting on 9/11 Criminal Investigation Petition I just came across an article on the petition to Elliot Spitzer, Attorney General of New York, requesting a new grand jury investigation.. <a href="http://www.justicefor911.org/">justicefor911.org</a> is a site setup for that petition where you can view the petition and sign it.. if you haven't done this already please do so.. <blockquote>Quote:<hr><a href="http://www.arcticbeacon.citymaker.com/articles/article/1518131/26798.htm">NY Attorney General Ignores Citizens' 9/11 Criminal Petition</a> Eight months after outraged NY citizens demanded a criminal probe into Bush's 9/11 ties, virtually nothing has been done; Citizens now may have to convene their own grand jury in order to get the wheels of justice turning. .. A spokesman from SptizerÃ‚ï¿½s office said the petition presented Oct. 28, 2004, is still under investigation. However, those close to the investigation said Sptizer has no intention to actively investigate corruption in the Bush administration since it may disrupt his plans to run for Governor in 2006.<hr></blockquote> Some of you probably already knew that Spitzer is running for governor of NY in 2006.. I was afraid that he might avoid this case in fear that it might affect his chances.. I would suggest that by avoiding this case he is in fact affecting his chances even more..Over 60% of the state of NY want a real investigation (<a href="http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855">zogby poll</a>), and that 60% should do all they can to harass him should he run without addressing this issue. for those interested, Spitzer has a website dedicated to his 2006 campaign.. you can comment on any of the news, as well as post in his forum and blog.. I would suggest that should Spitzer not act on the <a href="http://www.justicefor911.org/">justicefor911.org petition</a>, that we make our voices heard.. you can find his site here: <a href="http://www.spitzer2006.com/">www.spitzer2006.com </a>

by **lilorphant** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:15 am

I agree that such an investigation needs to be done, but Spitzer is no fool, he goes forward with that before he wins, the massive campaign against him will be worse than what happened to Kerry. (And we all know what happens to people who play too fast and loose). Additionally,if Bush is implicated, or anyone in the current administration, do you really think a court will prosecute? No, I think we need to win the Senate, and cover more ground, so if there are hearings, there will be a more receptive audience. Going to fast on this will lead to failure.

by **st4** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:40 pm

Too fast?! Gimmie a break. It's been nearly four years. The United States has already invaded two countries based on lies and have murdered thousands more innocent civilians since 9/11. When will it be time to bring those bastards to justice? After a million innocent civilians are murdered? Or maybe two million? How 'bout over a billion (the true goal of the PTB)? And regarding what you said about Kerry; are you implying that the last election wasn't staged? If you think Kerry didn't throw that last election, I have some beachfront property in the desert I'd like to sell you.

by **lilorphant** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:07 am

We get one shot at this, it must be done right. I am painfully aware of the particulars, but this Congress will not hold hearings, and testimony must be brought before Congress to get into the record. Nothing short of a full overturn of the House, Congress, and the Executive will get this thing done. We cannot even bring people in from the agencies or military to testify, they are fully controlled by the administration. So anyone who might testify has no guarantee their lives or their jobs are protected. We have no access to documents, (only those that are available through FOIA), and we have no access to communications between various people who may be involved. And no cooperation. We need the full support and cooperation of the machinery, especially as sitting Senators, DOJ, FBI, State Dept, who knows who else is involved, so going too fast will result in many people getting off the hook. No, I want them all, every rotten one, but there needs to be a reckoning, and it's not coming today. As to the election, my thoughts are this: The election was a scam. I do not think that Kerry was prepared for such ugliness that transpired, as I am sure many Americans were not. The entire campaign was a despicable below-the-belt affair. And I would not be surprised if at some point, Kerry realized, or was made to realize, that his life, or the the life of a loved one could be in jeopardy if he fought the election results. People think this is about politics, it's not, the people who allowed three thousand people to die a horrible death and dragged us into the nightmare that is Iraq will easily do away with anyone who gets in their way. Why are media sources shutting down their voice? Why are people hitting the high road? Why are people so reluctant to speak against this regime? FEAR. Fear of being locked up, fear of losing jobs, fear of losing their reputation, fear of the horror that this administrations power will consume them. But it's not just the administration, they easily shift between private sector, and the public sector, so perhaps oil industry executives were involved. In any case, they see Democrats no longer as a political party, but as communists. (irregardless of the diversity of opinion that marks the Democratic Party.) That means if you are a registered Dem, you are an enemy of the State. They will kill people they deem Communist with ease. So this forces us into the position to overturn, through election the current regime, then and only then will we be in a position to investigate fully and prosecute. The curious thing is that even Milton Friedman has recently spoke against the Republican President, citing the Iraqi war and the ideology of "spreading Democracy" to be counter-productive. (My thought is that this is a cue for the people in real power)

by **human** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:40 am

"And I would not be surprised if at some point, Kerry realized, or was made to realize, that his life, or the the life of a loved one could be in jeopardy if he fought the election results." you are kidding right? the democrats are just as much part of the problem. glorified street gangs, whos only real purpose is to divide, conquer, and maintain a illusion of balance. and John Kerry is not worried in the least for his life. the Bushes are facemen... Kerry/Heinz are more behind the scenes elite... probably more powerful even that George W. these people are all cousins.

by **lilorphant** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:54 pm

I think the Democrats are often misguided or disorganized, even corrupt, but that only leads me to the conclusion they are not organized enough, or even smart enough to be much a part of the situation. The skull and bones theory only goes so far. I am a member of several "secret" organizations, does that make me a criminal? Clubs provide connections and access to power, just as the internet does. It depends on the individual to illustrate how power is used. Quite frankly, I find that things are never as easily explained by broad sweeping charges such as you have iilustrated. It would be easy if things were as simple as "everyone's" involved, it's some illuminatti/masonic/Bilderburgh conspiracy. Complacency is the real evil. And each and every one of us is to blame for the shape we are in. As Shakespeare said, "All the world's a stage And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..."

by **plsmith** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:45 pm

Thanks for posting this, st4.  I'd add that Senators Clinton and Schumer need to be pressured on this issue as well. They *do* have the power to demand a thorough investigation and yet have remained curiously silent for such a couple of "radicals". Web form email for Senator Clinton:  <a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/email_form.html">clinton.senate.gov/email_form.html</a> Web form email for Senator Schumer:  <a href="http://schumer.senate.gov/webform.html">schumer.senate.gov/webform.html</a>

by **Connut** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:53 pm

And don't we all wish that this was the truth? <a href="http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=8681">www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin...ce_id=8681</a> Kerry to call for impeachment of Bush based on the Downing Street memo.

by **antiaristo** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:23 pm

“The skull and bones theory only goes so far. I am a member of several "secret" organizations, does that make me a criminal? Clubs provide connections and access to power, just as the internet does. It depends on the individual to illustrate how power is used.” lilorphant, There is nothing wrong with joining secret organizations. What certainly IS WRONG is the taking of secret oaths. What certainly IS WRONG is to take up power and swear an oath to the people, when that oath is undermined by prior obligations elsewhere. Tim Russert tried, gently, to get both Bush and Kerry to talk about Skull & Bones. Neither man was interested. Kerry knows how the UK system works from his BCCI hearings. Furthermore, these “secret” organizations to which you belong. Can you get out if you want? My old Chairman at Anglia Television would ask me to review investment and venture proposals that came in regularly. He had one obsession – “Tell me what you like about it, but I WANT TO KNOW THAT I CAN GET OUT OF IT IF I WANT TO. I WON’T GET INTO ANYTHING UNLESS I KNOW I CAN GET OUT.” And he was a former CEO of the Guardian Group and NM Rothschild!

by **lilorphant** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:00 pm

The Catholic church, once your confirmed they got you for life (so they say) and many churches will hunt you down and bring you back to the "fold". My point is that kerry being in skull and bones has nothing to do with spitzer not acting on the 9/11 suit. It seems off topic, so bringing the election thing (regardless of what I believe, or anyone just confuses the issues). If you want a unified secret conspiracy theory of everything, then my bet goes with the human condition, not the fact that people use secret shady organizations to achieve whatever goals they want to. It's kind of like profiling, yes a lot of _____ (fill in the blank with your race of choice) have a tendency to ____(fill in with such crimes as drugdealer, terrorist, or organized crime faction): it becomes misleading after a while and the real perp gets away. Secret organizations, fraternities, clubs, (even S&B) all that certainly have their share of the blame in all this, they provide a framework, but they are only building blocks, not the mortar. My original thoughts (about Spitzer, investigation, 9/11 lawsuit) come from a place because I do not believe that justice can prevail as long as the current conditions exist. I do however believe that in due time, there will come a reckoning, but I would rather it take everyone down who was remotely involved, not just a patsy or two.

by **human** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:11 am

lol. George W Bush. Skull & Bones. John Forbes Kerry. Skull & Bones. Porter Goss. Book & Snake. John Negroponte. Psi Epsilon. William Donaldson. (SEC chaiman who just stepped down) Skull & Bones. whatever lilorphant. i didnt say ALL secret societies. but if you want to go there... FUCK ALL secret societies. whats so special about you, you think you deserve secrets? lolololol. criminal? no. fool? undoubtedly. a secret society would imply nessecerely a secret hierarchy, essentially you dont really know who you are following or what their intent is. anyone who joins a organization without knowing what that organization is all about is a fool. you must be kidding... really you must. we are talking here about the two men "running" for president last election being in the same fraternal order, and then go add the other yalie SS members in the administration, and then the history....... so what are you? a mason? your angst towards the Catholic church is obvious... if you think calling these fuckers out on Skull & Bones is ANYTHING like racial profiling.... ahhhhh man, never mind. i can tell this is gonna be like talking to a brick wall.... JUSTICE!!! lol. one human?

by s » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:43 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>so what are you? a mason?<hr></blockquote> That's my guess. LOL

by **heath7** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:52 pm

Yeah, Kerry was going to talk about the DSM on the Senate floor, yeah right!<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> ...and instead of fighting back with the Downing Street Memo, the dems are busy supporting the future conflagration in Iran:Kerry talks of how a nuclear Iran is the biggest threat this world faces; the supposed 'San Francisco liberal' Pelosi recently gave a speech to AIPAC where she seemed to suggest attacking not only Iran, but China and Russia as well for supporting Iran; Hillary Clinton recently showed similar colors before the same lobby. The dems may be slimier than the repubs. They come off as hypocrites trying to woo the antiwar crowd while trying in earnest to get the next war started. ... and if Kerry does bring up the DSM on the senate floor, he will be signalling the end of any substantive debate on the matter; its just his style. Just like when he didn't talk about the shaky election in Ohio until the MSM coverage had already subsided. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=heath7>heath7</A> at: 6/7/05 1:03 pm

by **heath7** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:59 pm

btw, Has anyone else noticed the spate of Iraq war critics who support war with Iran, even though the case for war is eerily similar? What a genius ploy to bring around the waverers. The war machine is truly, brilliantly exploitive, is it not? Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=heath7>heath7</A> at: 6/7/05 1:04 pm

by **lilorphant** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:36 pm

Just give me that much-are you saying that because he is a democrat he is corrupt, or perhaps because he is a lawyer? I am just trying to establish to line of reasoning here. I worked for the NYOAG, so if you have some information I do not, then lay it out. NY politics is dry and bureaucratic, it makes for very boring reading.

Spitzer Not Acting on 9/11 Criminal Investigation Petition

Spitzer Not Acting on 9/11 Criminal Investigation Petition

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