Feds shutdown CBOE 9/11 put trade investigation, data erased

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Feds shutdown CBOE 9/11 put trade investigation, data erased

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:13 pm

From <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.strike-the-root.com/columns/Rain/rain10.html" target="top">Strike the Root</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br>I introduced myself to two women there, and after a short while, one of the women told me she worked for the CBOE. The CBOE is the Chicago Board Options Exchange. It is the exchange that handles trading in, among other things, stock options. I half-jokingly asked her, "Whatever happened to the CBOE investigation of all the profits made by those who bought put options on airlines stocks before 9-11?" (You make money on put options when a stock goes down in price.) <br><br>Her answer floored me. She said, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"It probably would have been easy for us to find out who was behind the trades, but the government came in and told the CBOE president to stop the investigation."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>Just to make sure I heard her right, I said to her, "The government came in and told the CBOE president not to investigate?" She said, "Yeah, it was really strange." <br><br>The conversation changed for a minute, but I wanted to get back to the government not wanting an investigation. I said to her again, a third time, making sure I heard right, "The government didn't want you to investigate?" She looked at me said "Yes, that's right." Then she looked at me a little longer, she knew I had interest in this topic, she looked a little nervous and then blurted out to me, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"We erased the data. Our data on the trades is gone."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>I am not an investigative reporter, but if someone reading this is, this certainly looks like something that should be investigated further. <br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 7/22/05 8:26 pm<br></i>
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CBOE 9/11 put trade investigation

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:51 pm

This is incredible. I've believed for years that the key to the answer to 9/11 is in the put options traded in the four days prior to the WTC disaster <p></p><i></i>
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the questions we dont ask...........

Postby zangtang » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:51 pm

as they say at GLP.....BUMP...... <p></p><i></i>
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Investigation on 911 put-options cancelled

Postby Starman » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:22 pm

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by anything the increasingly more visible (and in your face, watcha goin to do about it, eh?) shadow Government of Them, Against The People DO anymore, but this too leaves me vaguely naseous and speechless -- I occasionally wonder whatever happened to the put-options investigations and the WTC harddrive reconstruction project -- I suppose this is just another aspect of 'the American people just couldn't handle knowing the truth' which has been bandied-about about why the Warren Commission wasn't challenged by more officials who knew better.<br><br>Good Gawd is there anything left to encourage us, or to support the now-pathetic myth of Gummint By the People, For the People, and Of the People? Why hasn't this particular batum been revealed before now, and in such a roundabout coincident way? Too many peoiple 'just doing their jobs' to sacrfice their pensions and career -- unfortunately, like Pentagon officials now jumping to the VP's orders to draw up nuclear and conventional-strike contingency Iran War plans while also being appalled at the implication -- America's core public character is moral cowardice to challenge abuse of power, official fraud and institutionalized corruption. THAT'S becoming more abundantly-clear every day, despite noteable exceptions of whistleblowers like Karen Kwiatkowski, Joe Wilson, Ray McGovern,and many others -- my enduring gratitude and Hats Off to them for raising the bar on integrity in resisting rampant criminality that now saturates the White House and Pentagon environs.<br><br>No newspaper of record would publish this shut-down order from somebody 'in the government'? No journalists were following this?<br><br>The complicity and cover-up just gets more and more outrageous -- if ever there were a people who didn't deserve a government of integrity and decency, upholding social justice and human rights through a hard-won democratic republic, I fear this is it. It's hard for me to feel much of anything but an overwhelming contempt for those who have cooperated in their nation's betrayal.<br><br>Obviously, the 'message' of blocking investigations is that if you are reckless and bold enough, Crime and even Treason pay.<br><br>Unfortunately, the deeper text is that America has now aligned itself with those attributes which are most vile, despicable, and self-defeating -- almost every political decision and action involves keeping past secrets buried and shielding those public officials and private citizens and groups which are culpable for gross criminal malfeasance and fraud, incompetance and abuse of authority, war-crimes and treason -- to keep the delictaely-assembled house of cards from tumbling for yet another few years and another ... And each outrage seems greater than those that came before, as IF such a thing wrre possible. And so we have this nincompoop-designed Terror Agenda as a sop and foil and diversion -- what a monstrous scam. I'm deeply, deeply offended.<br><br>Ands then too at times I wonder what's in store for the great Karmic reckoning of justly reaping what America has sown, to humble it's people for their enormous arrogance and contempt for consequences, whose pride is so great they think they are entitled to represent God's will and so evade consequences for the blood and horror it has unleashed upon uncountable millions, those least at-blame for the ills of the earth -- and for the millions of self-righteous citizens who do not feel it necessary to hold their oficials accountable or even to stay reasonably informed about what their Government does in their name... Good God, what do they think hundreds of billions of dollars of death-and-killing technology is being used for?<br><br>Starman<br>aieieiei ... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Investigation on 911 put-options cancelled

Postby dbeach » Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:34 am

Fitzgerald is investigating the trade put-options and connecting it to Plame <p></p><i></i>
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Fitzgerald

Postby Dreams End » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:22 am

IF he's doing half of what he's reputed to be doing...I hope he stays off of small planes. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Fitzgerald

Postby dbeach » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:45 am

seems to be lots of dem mysterious plane crashes since 1963.<br><br>ever hear of the plane crash in TX ...that was supposed to pick up poppy o bush ..this yr??? <p></p><i></i>
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small planes?

Postby chiggebit » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:54 am

Remember Dorothy Hunt? <p></p><i></i>
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1939 and holding....

Postby zangtang » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:54 am

1939 and holding.......<br><br>1939 and holding.......<br><br>1939 and holding............................ <p></p><i></i>
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put options

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:17 am

I've started a data dump on 9/11 put options. <p></p><i></i>
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Destruction of Evidence

Postby antiaristo » Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:07 am

I'm sorry, I'll have to do this from memory.<br>I read about something similar, I think at the FAA. An employee had an audio tape of the exchanges on the morning of 9/11 between the air traffic controllers. Somebody's heavy took the cassette, broke the casing, unspooled the tape and cut it all into small pieces. They then went around dumping individual pieces in separate rubbish bins. (Don't ask me why he didn't just burn it).<br><br>The mo rarely deviates. Use crime to achieve power, then use power to eliminate the crime. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Feds shutdown CBOE 9/11 put trade investigation, data er

Postby OnoI812 » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:11 pm

Jones has been touting this story for years...I forget his source...there might be something in the archives on prisonplanet.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I am not an investigative reporter, but if someone reading this is, this certainly looks like something that should be investigated further.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Feds shutdown CBOE 9/11 put trade investigation,

Postby glooperoo » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:24 pm

Wow, I didn't know they actually shut down the investigation <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2004-98.htm">but I'm sure not surprised</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>On Sept. 12, 2001, the Securities and Exchange Commission began an investigation to determine whether there was evidence that anyone who had advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks on September 11 sought to profit from that knowledge by trading in United States securities markets. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>In the course of that review, we did not develop any evidence suggesting that anyone who had advance knowledge of the September 11 attacks traded on the basis of that information</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. In the course of our investigation, we examined more than 9.5 million securities transactions that took place during the weeks preceding September 11. Along with the New York Stock Exchange, NASD, the American Stock Exchange, the Chicago Board Options Exchange, the Pacific Exchange, and the Philadelphia Stock Exchange, we reviewed trading in securities and derivative products of 103 companies in six industry groups with trading in seven markets. We also reviewed trading in 32 exchange traded funds and broad and narrow indices. In addition to working with the exchanges and NASD, we worked with criminal law enforcement authorities, including the Department of Justice and the FBI, as well as our regulatory counterparts in the U.S. and abroad. Finally, we sought and obtained information from the legal and compliance departments at securities firms and other financial institutions to determine whether any unusual trading activity had been observed by their staffs in the period prior to Sept. 11, 2001.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I wonder if their lack of findings has anything to do with the blocking of the investigation. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :b --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>It's also worth noting that the CBOE is under the jurisdiction of the FBI office that Robert Wright Jr, one of the FBI Whistle Blowers charging that terrorism financing investigation were being blocked, <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/6/11/202140/179/103#103">worked at</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. <p></p><i></i>
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Greg Palast and others

Postby Bismillah » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:57 pm

Jeff, I sent Greg Palast a link to the original blog entry, recommending that he follow it up. (He specialised for years in financial crimes.) I'd suggest that everyone else do the same with any decent investigative journalists they know.<br><br>Some questions from a Brit: What is the current legal situation in the US? Can those in charge of the Chicago Exchange be obliged to answer questions? Can the FBI claim (ludicrously) that the put options are still the subject of an ongoing investigation? Or can the existence or non-existence of these trading records simply be declared a state secret? <br><br>In fact, can a journalist be forbidden to report even that his questions were not answered? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Fitzgerald

Postby Jen » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:31 am

"IF he's doing half of what he's reputed to be doing...I hope he stays off of small planes."<br><br>I second THAT. Actually, I've been hoping this for a few months now; ever since I decided that his investigation had produced something valuable. I'm kind of in awe about his survival to this point, actually. <p></p><i></i>
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