Lawyers stopped Army unit sharing 9/11 fears

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Lawyers stopped Army unit sharing 9/11 fears

Postby emad » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:33 am

August 17, 2005 <br><br>Lawyers stopped Army unit sharing 9/11 fears<br>By Sam Knight, Times Online<br> <br> <br> <br>A secret military unit repeatedly tried to arrange meetings with the FBI in the year before the September 11 attacks to warn them about the men who went on to lead the hijackers, an former intelligence officer has said.<br> <br>In an interview with The New York Times and Fox News, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer, an Army intelligence officer, said that he tried to organise three meetings with the Washington field office of the FBI to share the identities of Mohamed Atta and three other future hijackers in late 2000 and early 2001.<br><br>According to Colonel Shaffer, a small, highly secret intelligence unit known as Able Danger had used data-sorting techniques to identify Atta and his accomplices as possible US-based terrorists by mid-2000, but military lawyers prevented the team from sharing their information.<br><br>Colonel Shaffer said that lawyers working for the Special Operations Command of the Defence Department, cancelled the meetings because they believed that the surveillance techniques used by Able Danger could be understood as a violation of the rights of people who were living legally in the US.<br><br>"I was at the point of near insubordination over the fact that this was something important, that this was something that should have been pursued," Colonel Shaffer told The New York Times and Fox News.<br><br>"It was because of the chain of command saying we're not going to pass on information - if something goes wrong, we'll get blamed," said Colonel Shaffer, whose job was to liaise between Able Danger and other agencies, rather than analyse the intelligence himself.<br><br>Colonel Shaffer, 42, is the first intelligence officer to publicly identify himself in the growing controversy over how information gathered on the 9/11 hijackers was not shared by American government agencies or passed on to the 9/11 Commission which investigated the attacks.<br><br>According to Colonel Shaffer and Congressman Curt Weldon, the Republican politician who has brought to light the work of Able Danger, the full extent of the unit's findings were not passed on to the 9/11 Commission even after members of the Commission met Colonel Shaffer in Afghanistan in 2003.<br><br>Last week, the leaders of the Commission said that the panel had concluded that the intelligence programme "did not turn out to be historically significant."<br><br>But in his interview on Monday, Colonel Shaffer challenged that view, saying: "I would implore the 9/11 commission to support a follow-on investigation to ascertain what the real truth is. I do believe the 9/11 Commission should have done that job: figuring out what went wrong with Able Danger."<br><br>A former member of the Commission, Richard Ben-Veniste, the former Watergate prosecutor, yesterday called on the Pentagon hand over all the information that the Army possessed about Atta and the other hijackers.<br><br>"If these assertions are credible," said Mr Ben-Veniste, "the Pentagon would need to explain why it was that the 9/11 commissioners were not provided this information despite requests for all information regarding Able Danger."<br><br>The Defence Department has not disputed Colonel Shaffer's account of the work of Able Danger and its attempts to share its findings.<br><br>The Pentagon said in a statement that it was "working to gain more clarity on this issue" and that "it's too early to comment on findings related to the program identified as Able Danger."<br> <br> <br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1739204,00.html">www.timesonline.co.uk/art...04,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Lawyers stopped Army unit sharing 9/11 fears

Postby dbeach » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:54 am

so the US Army intell cannnot bust CIA assets like Mo Mo Atta cuz it would upset the bushevik/neocon plans for world conquest..HMMMMM<br><br>Richard Ben-Veniste that name rings a nasty bell to me?? <p></p><i></i>
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nasty bell

Postby smiths » Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:41 pm

<br>Richard Ben-Veniste (born January 3, 1943)<br><br>He served as assistant U.S. attorney from 1968 to 1973, including the turbulent period of the Watergate scandal. <br>He served as chief of the Watergate Task Force of the Watergate Special Prosecutor's Office. <br>chief councel of the Senate Whitewater Committee. <br>continues to represent major clients such as Boeing and United Airlines.<br><br>Most recently, Ben-Veniste was appointed to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States ( popularly known as the "9/11 Commission")<br><br>Mr. Ben-Veniste is a partner with the international law firm Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw, LLP.<br>anyone know if that is the same bunch of 'brown' shirts who keep popping up in connection with cheney and bush's <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Lawyers stopped Army unit sharing 9/11 fears

Postby emad » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:47 pm

dbeach: love those posts of yours. Keep on keeping on.<br><br>When I resume my old job shortly I'm gonna send you a (return!) ticket to go see the places described in:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p097.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=451.topic">p097.ezboard.com/frigorou...=451.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>just to top up your unfailing sense of the surreal.<br><br>(Unless of course you been already, in which case you may not need that top-up).<br><br>NO SARCASM MEANT!<br><br>Thanks for all your posts.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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That's funny

Postby proldic » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:55 pm

As the screen was switching to this post I was thinking "Where's dbeach today?".<br><br>Although I probably disagree w/ 1/2 of what he writes,<br><br>there's something REAL about him that I appreciate. <br><br>Reminds me of my friends. <p></p><i></i>
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you guys!!

Postby dbeach » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:15 pm

flatterey works on me<br>.<br><br>disagree /agree..its all part of the problem solving.<br><br>I am on a mission.I shook hands with JFK and the entire family in 1958 in MA.<br><br>11/22/63 was worst day of my life..Atending Catholic schools and watching the nuns cry..it was tooo much..these tuff sisters of St Joseph..and I do mean tuff.. watching them cry..It shattered my sense of security and safety.<br><br>Trust me the nuns had NO fondness for me dbeach..BUT seeeing them breakdown..I knew then that something had happened that was the worst evil imaginable.<br>We are all collectivley trapped in that time zone of 11/22/63. Until the Kennedy /king murders are solved..this USA..this Planet will not advance..We are in the pages of the most dangerous moments in history and madmen have the weapons of state..madmen.<br><br>Willl they turn the guns on the US Citizens?<br>trapped in a time warp.<br><br>Fact is stranger than fiction.<br><br>Peace to all..keep sharing and I will keep caring.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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