9/11 The Eisenhower Building – Hit by a Missile

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9/11 The Eisenhower Building – Hit by a Missile

Postby cortez » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:28 am

I was reading this transcript of French Author Thierry Meyssan<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP98105">memri.org/bin/articles.cg...ID=SP98105</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I have not read about this before. Is it true?<br><br><br><br>..The Eisenhower Building – Hit by a Missile<br><br>"The third thing that has not been clarified in any way was the issue of the fire in one of the buildings adjacent to the White House on September 11. We are used to seeing the famous picture of the White House and a large park. But right next to the White House there is a large building, which is rarely shown because it is very ugly, and it is related to the 1930s. It is called the Eisenhower Building. All the U.S. presidential services are located in that building.<br><br>"This building was completely destroyed by fire, but no explanation was given. Why has nothing been said about the third Manhattan tower and about the building adjacent to the White House? It's very simple. They did not have any plane that could serve as a pretext. It could not be said that some plane crashed here, and that this was the handiwork of Islamists from overseas. Therefore, since there was no plane, no explanation could be given. So it is presented as if nothing happened.<br><br>"We see that what America says officially is not only incomplete but also falsified. If we examine some details carefully – particularly details pertaining to the Pentagon – we will realize many things. As for the incident that claimed 160 lives, they said it was because of a Boeing 757 that the Islamists hijacked and crashed into the Pentagon in a suicide attack. If we examine the details carefully, we see that some of the witnesses say something different about this Boeing.<br><br>"They say that they saw some object hit the building at top speed, but they couldn't determine whether it was a Boeing or something else. If we examine the damage to the Pentagon, we conclude that this damage could not have been caused by a Boeing. It was caused by a missile. According to the Pentagon, the object that hit that spot was a plane. But a Boeing 757 weighs over 100 tons, and if it came close to the building, its speed would have been between 500 to 800 kilometers per hour, rising to between 800 to 1,200 kilometers per hour. But if a Boeing had indeed hit the building's first floor, the building would have been totally ruined. This is like a truck crashing into a building, and destroying it, not merely making a hole in it. When we magnify the picture, we see that the missile entered through this door, which is five to six meters wide. But the width of a plane is 38 meters, including the wings, and its tail is 12 meters long. Despite this, there is no sign of destruction in the vicinity. According to what they say, the attacking object entered here, passed through the building, and exited here. When it went through the building, it formed a tunnel. It passed through the walls, but did not cause any collapse or debris, and exited from here. The hole was 2.3 meters in diameter, and this clearly couldn't have been a plane.<br><br>"We face an important issue: If this was a missile and not a plane, who fired it? After all, you cannot talk about Islamists or caves in Afghanistan anymore. This was a missile fired by American soldiers in order to kill another group of American soldiers. This points to an internal problem within the American system.... <p></p><i></i>
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... and this. Right out in front. On tape.

Postby Pants Elk » Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:00 am

This is interesting, too:<br><br>"Then, while [Bush] is still talking to the small children in front of the TV cameras, one of his cabinet members comes up to him and tells him that a second plane hit the second tower. If you were in charge of the cabinet and said such a thing to the president, you would wait for an answer. The cabinet members generally have to wait around the president to receive instructions, but they moved away, as if they didn't have to wait for an answer. It was like reporting on some ongoing operation."<br><br>This scene is well known, of course, but the slant on it is new, to me, and absolutely on the freaking nail. Cord (?) leans in, tells the Preznit the second tower's been hit, moves away. WHY THE FUCK DID IT HAPPEN LIKE THIS? We know, of course. In a real world, with a real president, Card (?) would lean in, tell the prexy he has to talk, it's urgent, and LEAD THE PRESIDENT OUT OF THE FREAKING ROOM so he could deliver this momentous, appalling, world-shaking bit of news so the leader of the freaking country could gather his wits about him and make swift and far-reaching decisions to act on the news he's just received. But not in this nightmare world of demon sleep America is in; no, here, Curd (?) leans in, says, "they got the second tower. It's coming down. Cool it." and MOVES AWAY. Because everything is going to plan. And all that evil little twerp has to do is sit there for another freaking ten minutes reading a book about goats, because he KNOWS nothing is falling out of the sky onto HIS head.<br><br>Maybe America isn't asleep. Maybe America just doesn't exist anymore. If you're in the US; look out the window. Looks like home, right? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Very weird story and very little on the web about it...

Postby DrDebugDU » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:42 am

This is very weird. The main references I could find were of Thierry. Can't find any pictures of the ABC News footage, but they did mention it...<br><br>Thierry was wrong according to the stories though. The building is still there and the reports sound like it was either a building behind it or the back of the building.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Attacks on U.S. Change Life at NIH<br>By Rich McManus<br>Photos by Rich McManus, Bill Branson, Lew Bass<br><br>On the Front Page...<br><br>The transition from peacetime's reliable routine to wartime anxiety took place in only minutes as NIH employees came to work on an otherwise spectacular late summer morning Sept. 11 and discovered by 9:45 — via office televisions, radio, the web, phone calls and hallway conversations — that terrorism on an almost unimaginable scale was taking place in New York City and in the heart of Washington, D.C. The workday froze as workers tuned in to the news — the World Trade Center towers in flames, and <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>smoke rising from behind the Old Executive Office building</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> near the White House.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nih.gov/news/NIH-Record/10_02_2001/story01.htm">www.nih.gov/news/NIH-Record/10_02_2001/story01.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>There is a story that the building was evacuated:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>(...)<br><br>Staff members in the Old Executive Office Building, across the street from the White House, were huddled in front of their TV screens when they heard from TV reporters that they were being evacuated. Then the tape loop began. "The building is being evacuated. Please walk to the nearest exit." "The looks were stone-faced," a staff member to the Vice President said. "They were just zombies," said another.<br><br>(...)<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,174764-5,00.htm">www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,174764-5,00.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>A story about the ABC News footage showing smoke behind the building<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Terrorist Attacks On World Trade Center & Pentagon<br>by Bryan Chaffin, 9:50 AM EDT, September 11th, 2001<br><br>Additional reports are coming in as we write that there is fire in the Pentagon, and cameras on ABC News are showing a <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>huge plume of smoke behind the Old Executive Office Building</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> in Washington DC. It is possible that the two events are one and the same. ABC News has just added that there are reports of a plane crash in the vicinity of the Pentagon.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.macobserver.com/article/2001/09/11.5.shtml">www.macobserver.com/article/2001/09/11.5.shtml</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>Minute by Minute with the Broadcast News<br>By Jill Geisler<br><br>8:42 ABC's Clair Shipman reports smoke coming from behind the Old Executive Office Building. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>There is video of the smoke</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, from a camera position near Lafayette Park. No definitive word on what we are seeing.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.poynter.org/dg.lts/id.6074/content.content_view.htm">www.poynter.org/dg.lts/id.6074/content.content_view.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The ABC transcript<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>'ABC News' Special Report:<br>"Planes crash into World Trade Center"<br>(8:53 AM ET) Tuesday 11 September 2001<br><br>Let's go to the White House. Claire Shipman is on the phone.<br><br>Claire, what's that we're looking at?<br><br>CLAIRE SHIPMAN reporting:<br><br>Well, that's what we're trying to figure out right now. All we know is it's this <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>gigantic plume of smoke coming from behind the old Executive Office Building</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. And we're told that the White House itself, the West Wing at the very least, is being evacuated. The personnel from there are being asked to leave. We've sent people running over there to try to find out what it is. But we don't know yet.<br><br>JENNINGS: Now the old Executive Office Building is to the--slightly to the west and a fraction to the south. So we are looking southwest from a camera just across Lafayette Park which is north of the White House. The White House is to the left side, out of your picture. Maybe even the cameraman could give us some appreciation.<br><br>But you have no idea. Was that an explosion? Did you hear anything?<br><br>SHIPMAN: We did--we did not hear it. In fact, we were trying to figure out from the White House what security precautions they were taking around the White House in the wake of the apparent attacks on the World Trade Center. And we suddenly just saw this smoke rising from behind the old Executive Office Building. We have people on their way there now but it's like nothing I've ever seen. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>We've never seen that kind of smoke coming from--from anything that would ordinarily occur here</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br><br>JENNINGS: I must also tell you, Claire, I think if you think about what's behind the--the EOB there, you're really down in pretty open area. It doesn't look like a place where a building would be on fire. <br><br>SHIPMAN: No, that's right, although there are a number of building just behind the old Executive Office Building on G Street that could potentially be on fire. But nothing you would necessarily think of as--as a target. Apparently, we're also...<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://emperor.vwh.net/9-11backups/abc911.htm">emperor.vwh.net/9-11backups/abc911.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>And there are stories that there was a rumor about the fire<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Fire at Pentagon!<br><br>David Kramer david at thekramers.net <br>Tue Sep 11 09:45:32 EDT 2001<br><br>This is no joke. The Old Executive Office building and the Pentagon have heavy fires burning, source unknown right now.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://lists.blu.org/pipermail/discuss/2001-September/010534.html">lists.blu.org/pipermail/discuss/2001-September/010534.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>#2299 | Wednesday, September 11th 2002<br>September 11, 2002 <br>My name is Anthony Nigrelli, and I'm a law librarian at Arnold & Porter in downtown Washington, DC. I was working the morning of September 11 2001, when one of my coworkers said "a plane has hit the WTC in NY". We quickly gathered around the TVs in our library and I could not believe what I was seeing. I'm from NY, and my brother lives in NYC and recently had an interview in one of the towers. <br><br>Then the rumors began to fly around the firm - a bomb went off on the national Mall, the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Old Executive Office Building was on fire</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, there was a car bomb at the State Department. One intrepid coworker and I ran up to our roof to see if we could verify any of these rumors, but we could see that the smoke from the Pentagon was blowing around and leading folks to believe there were multiple sources of fire. It was quite a view from up there, but kindof scary since our building is adjacent to the FBI and we were hearing about a 4th plane headed for DC. <br><br>(...)<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.wherewereyou.org/search/?searchtype=location&searchtext=district+of+columbia">www.wherewereyou.org/search/?searchtype=location&searchtext=district+of+columbia</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>September 13, 2001<br>(...)<br><br>But I was lucky; I merely sat in the office in horror with many similarly-effected co-workers as we braced for the worst. Rumors started flying about a car bomb going off in front of the State Dept., maybe three blocks from my office, and that the Old Executive Office building, where I was convinced that my brother-in-law worked, was on fire. There was an unaccounted-for airplane apparently flying north up the Potomac River, presumably headed for either the Capitol building or the White House.<br><br>(...)<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.laze.net/fait/archive/2001/09/13/this_was_sent_by_my.php">www.laze.net/fait/archive/2001/09/13/this_was_sent_by_my.php</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br><br>One of the Twin Towers just collapsed! The Pentagon has had a bomb attack and even though it is about 5 miles from my building here in D.C., I can see the smoke rising from it. The Executive Office Building is about 3 blocks away from me, it was bombed about a half hour ago. They are currently evacuating the U.S. Capitol. So it appears that they have arrived in the USA afterall. Guess it had to happen sooner or later...... <br>-Blue Knight, September 11th, 2001, 10:09AM.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.abundancemagazine.com/scribes/911/">www.abundancemagazine.com/scribes/911/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/10/05 4:59 am<br></i>
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excellent

Postby somebody » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:58 pm

Excellent thread & info. Thanks<br> <br>If a plane had hit, say the Capital or White House, that would have sealed the deal with the American public completely, as far as their plans for complete control. Hardly any dissenting voices would be able to be heard. We'd all be way too stunned/outraged/shocked, etc. And then their plans for .... whatever, would be complete! They were fully expecting that to happen, that's why the huge Patriot Act, was ready only days later! <br> <br>BUT there was a fly in the ointment.<br> <br>I read somewhere that the plane that crashed into the field, that was headed to DC(?) was ordered shot down by a military officer. I'm sure everyone here has seen that. I just can't remember where I heard it, and I'm just too tired/worn out to right now to find it. Maybe later. And of course, then the made up story of "Let's roll" was born. The elites were almost completely successful..... except for that 1 general(?) who pretty much saved us, for now. So... who was he? There must be a group of insiders that are/have been freaking over what is happening to us! Was it the General that was recently fired? I don't expect that is was, but it shows that they do exist, or else they wouldn't be getting fired.....and you know they have to be fuming at what is happening to America & the Constitution that they pledged to protect and serve.<br> <br>I guess my point is , that there may be help out there somewhere still, and that one person CAN alter outcomes. And the elites know that. Just my few cents.<br> <br>Also.... where are all the trolls? Why are they so quite? What is up now? And not on just this site, but others too. Must be in staff meetings in the WH basement or something. We shall see. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: excellent

Postby DrDebugDU » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:15 pm

This is a very mysterious story. I agree that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>if</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> the White House was attacked it would have sealed the deal. The point is that there is some talk about smoke, but there is very little on the web about it and if it was a fire which did real damage it'll be reported, so something went wrong there...<br><br>And then we have the plane over Pennsylvania<br><br>> I read somewhere that the plane that crashed into the field, that was headed to DC(?) was ordered shot down by a military officer<br><br>There are many stories about it, but I prefer this quote:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>"or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon"<br>- Donald Rumsfeld, December 27, 2004<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Do you mean general Kevin P. Byrnes? <p></p><i></i>
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re:excellent

Postby somebody » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:46 pm

Yes, Byrnes. He probably wasn't the one at all, but this admin. obviously had a serious problem with him.<br><br>more from Rums, he's always making a slip of the tounge, and letting his cards show. I remember something he said of the devastation in NO, that was very strange. will go look for it.<br><br>more from his quote that you sited above. chilling. this was what I was talking about in the TV thread.<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: re:excellent

Postby cortez » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:31 am

DrDebugDU thanks for those links, very much appreciated <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=cortez@rigorousintuition>cortez</A> at: 9/11/05 1:39 am<br></i>
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Re: re:excellent

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<br><br>.<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:_S0Q3vOgIfMJ:home.alamedanet.net/~vajra/sept11/cheney.htm+rumsfeld+911+this+isn%27t+over&hl=en&client=firefox-a">911 timeline: Cheney & Bush officials</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>(9:41 A.M.) Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld is sitting in the Pentagon, but supposedly completely oblivious of the approaching Flight 77. As he watches TV coverage of WTC, he says, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Believe me, this isn't over yet. There's going to be another attack, and it could be us."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Supposedly, "moments later, the plane hit." [Telegraph, 12/16/01] Rumsfeld is apparently psychic, because two minutes before the first WTC crash and supposedly completely ignorant of the hijackings, he predicted a terrorist attack upon the US (see 8:44 A.M.)</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Flight 93

Postby Nonny » Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:40 pm

LetsRoll911.org has discovered that Fight 93 was definitely shot down. <br><br>LetsRoll has discovered the name of the pilot as well as all other pertinent information regarding this incident; <br><br>"At precisely 0938 hours, an alarm was sounded at Langely Air Force Base, and those whom were on call, drinking coffee, were scrambled. Thus the 119th Fighter Wing was off for an intercept.<br><br>They, the Happy Hooligans, a unit of 3 F-16 aircraft, were ordered to head toward Pennsylvania. At 0957 they spotted their target; After confirmation orders were received, A one Major Rick Gibney fired two sidewinder missiles at the aircraft and destroyed it in mid flight at precisely 0958; <br><br>He was awarded a medal from the Governor one year later for his heroic actions. As well as Decorated by Congress on 9/13/2001. The Happy Hooligans were previously stationed in North Dakota, and moved to Langley Air Force base some months before 911 occured on a "Temporary assignment." <br><br>more at link<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://letsroll911.org/articles/flight93shotdown.html" target="top">letsroll911.org/articles/flight93shotdown.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Secretary Colin L. Powell

Postby Nonny » Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:04 pm

Press Briefing on Board Plane En Route Washington, DC <br>Sept 11, 2001<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.state.gov/secretary/former/powell/remarks/2001/4863.htm" target="top">www.state.gov/secretary/former/powell/remarks/2001/4863.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>snip--<br><br>With respect to the events of the day, as you know when we took off, both towers of the World Trade Center had fallen, serious fire at the Pentagon which is still raging and has not been brought under control yet. Other planes crashed elsewhere in the United States, one crashed near Camp David and the other crashed out in western Pennsylvania**. To the best of my knowledge that’s all that happened. No damage to the best of my knowledge was done from those. So it was obviously a well-coordinated, extensive assault against the United States. You may have gotten an earlier report that there was a car bomb outside the State Department, but that is not the case. <br><br>The President spoke to the nation not too long ago and is in a secure facility. The Vice President is in the secure facilities in Washington. The National Security team is intact and everything is being done to restore communications and to restore all the things that have been disrupted in the course of this morning. <br><br>snip--<br><br>**Correction: No plane crashed near Camp David. <br><br>__________________________________<br><br>Daily Press Briefing<br>Philip T. Reeker, Deputy Spokesman<br>Washington, DC<br>September 11, 2001<br><br>7:40 p.m.<br><br>snip--<br><br> Just to clear up any misconceptions there may have been based on some earlier news reports, there was no car bomb or other bomb or attack at the State Department. Earlier this afternoon, the Deputy Secretary and our Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security David Carpenter did a perimeter walk around our building, meeting with the guards and thanking them for the extra support they have given as we increased our security during this time, and we were able to verify that there was no bomb or other attack on the State Department. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2001/4860.htm" target="top">www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2001/4860.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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