9/11 provocation for a US attack on Middle-East

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9/11 provocation for a US attack on Middle-East

Postby ewastud » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:13 am

Immediately after the September 11, 2001 attack on the WTC and the Pentagon and the downed jet aircraft in PA, our government's knee-jerk reaction was to attack someone in the Middle-East. This was a golden opportunity to use as a pretext for exercising US military might and domination over someone. The question only seemed to be "Who shall we attack?" We were seeking vengeance.<br><br>There was a paucity of evidence as to exactly who and how the 9/11 attack was carried out, and almost as immediately, skeptics suspected foul play or complicity by someone in our own government. Yet George Tenet of the CIA asserted with absolute assurance that Osama bin Laden (OBL) and the "al Qaeda" were responsible. (Even to this day, the FBI does not agree; there is no solid evidence that OBL had a part in it.) The evidence to support the contention that Middle-East "terrorists" were responsible (such as the flight school training) was very suspiciously lined up within 24 or 36 hours of the attack, reminding many of the rush to judgment against Lee Harvey Oswald almost four decades earlier.<br><br>Based on that dubious assumption and the factual knowledge that OBL had a training camp in Afghanistan, a government ruled by a group known as the Taliban, the US mounted an attack on Afghanistan. Meanwhile, Rumsfeld, Bolton, and various neo-con parties in the Bush administration, including Bush himself, was apparently itching to use the 9/11 attack on US sites to launch an attack against Iraq which they had been planning and working toward since Bush took office and even years before that. In contract to those impulses, from what has come out recently (if true), Douglas Feith in DoD was arguing that the 9/11 attack should be used as a pretext for the US to attack South America (for the surprise element)!<br><br>Most of the readers of this blog have probably concluded that there was at a minimum complicity if not outright treasonous conduct by elements within our own government, most likely those elements closely associated with the Neo-conservatives (Bill Kristol, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, David Wurmser, John Bolton, Doug Feith, Richard Perle et al). <br><br>The question I pose and throw out for discussion is why was there indecision immediately following the 9/11 attack regarding how to respond? Of course, there seemed no indecision whether we should attack some other country before we had even assembled a clear picture as to who was responsible (what a sane and rational person would do in a system ruled by laws, domestic and internaational), but how to exploit the emotional reaction of the American public to advance the selfish interests and agendas of the various policy-makers. The indecision seems to indicate to me that conflicts exist or existed among these interests, although they are in agreement on many general goals. <br><br>What say you? <p></p><i></i>
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There was no indecision

Postby sunny » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:49 am

Bush and others immediately wanted to attack Iraq, but people like Richard Clarke raised a stink. It was clear to the neo-cons that some left-over professionals in the National Security apparatus would not stand still for such a blatant boondoggle without their first having to wage a much more significant propaganda effort in order to lock down the media and to sway the public. I think they attacked Afghanistan as a diversion, as it seemed the most logical in the context of the official story, and to not seem so hot to trot over into Iraq. That much desired Caspian Sea pipeline didn't hurt, either. <br>The mighty wurlitzer didn't have enough bullshit "evidence" at that point in time to get cranked up, like forged documents purporting to prove Saddam was trying to procure yellocake, and constant harangues about mushroom clouds. They were willing to wait a little to gain a whole effing lot. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: There was no indecision

Postby greencrow0 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:16 am

The reason they attacked Afghanistan was to draw NATO into a diversionary war. It is also a blackmail on certain countries like Canada. Canada depends on NATO treaties for its security...If Canada didn't join the "NATO" war, it would be abrogating it's treaty responsibilities and therefore not eligible for NATO protection and open to attack from, say, the United states 'for security reasons'.<br><br>If Canada DID enter the war on Afghanistan [which it did] then it would cause internal division as most Canadians would be against the meaningless war and this would weaken the country and leave it open to outside 'assistance' as a 'security threat'. In fact, the War on Afghanistan is a classic Catch 22 situation for Canada.<br><br>Brilliant on the part of the neoCon Criminal Cabal as they do not believe in the UN, NATO or any other international treaties or laws. They want to destroy the 'Nations' system of International Interraction and replace it with a 'Uni Polar' form of hierarchy where the US rules the roost. The neoCon Zionists came up with this idea as it allows them to rule the world using the US military and American young men and women to seize control of the world's resources.<br><br>Personally, I don't think it will work due to the recent treaty relationships entered into by Russia, China and India...the three most populous nations int the world. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=greencrow0>greencrow0</A> at: 6/11/06 11:18 pm<br></i>
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Re: There was no indecision

Postby chiggerbit » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:20 am

What fuckers:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0412/14/lt.02.html">transcripts.cnn.com/TRANS...lt.02.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: GC

Postby havanagilla » Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:11 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In fact, the War on Afghanistan is a classic Catch 22 situation for Canada.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>why do you think it is different for the other nations who are dependent/scared shitless of the USA ? <br><br>what beats me is the thought that any other, and usually smaller and poorer, nation has any OTHER way opened to them, as opposed to Canada's general "lets open our legs wide open" policy ? I am not only referring to Israel, cause I join the critics of my gov - one that is way too enthusiastic to join the trend, but any other country, say UK (re Iraq) etc. etc.<br>-<br>The losers' alliance bn Russia, China and India is one that is not opened for those who wish to maintain the benfits of US friendship. The standard of living in that alliance is very low, and culture is distinctly different, and since they have a billion each, the US nuke threat is not decisive for them. And even so, at least India and RUssia (and now googlechina) are waving a white flag. Canada, though, still takes a bizarre moralistic position vis a vis all the other chicken...any justification ?<br> <p></p><i></i>
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