New 9/11 CT: Who Killed John O'Neill?

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New 9/11 CT: Who Killed John O'Neill?

Postby DrDebugDU » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:20 am

I am working on a new CT for 9/11 based on the Who Killed John O'Neill video and it matches with lots of other research (Sibel Edmonds, Andrew Grove, Hopsicker, Ruppert) and is very promising. It is not about the how, but about the who did 9/11<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675">www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Who Killed John O'Neill</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>An Updated MIHOP<br><br>Who did 9/11? A question we all want to know answers to. <br>Meet the CIA of the 21st century. Privatized, independent and hidden from view.<br>* AIG as Money Laundering Inc.<br>* Marsh Crisis Consultancy as Terrorism Inc with Osama bin Laden played by <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Paul Bremer</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>* Kroll as the privatized CIA Inc.<br>* al-Cokeda as the Drug dealers in the Flight school who are later called terrorists in the OCT<br><br>* Learn how they all work together. <br>* Learn how they make fortunes on 9/11 with insider trading.<br>* Learn how sophisticated psyops and black ops is.<br><br>* Learn what the government and the OCTers don't want you to know<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Video + large discussion:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (it is better if you watch the video first)<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675">www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Journal:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug">journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668">www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>al-Cokeda</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Iran-Contra II<br><br>How the 9/11 flight schools were being used for narcotics trafficing to finance <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>black operations like 9/11</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> which was covered up by labeling the drug dealers, terrorists. The drug import just continued after 9/11 as if nothing happened and were involved in the biggest cocaine shipment ever...<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06246/amanda-keller.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Mohammed Atta's girlfriend<br><br>Learn about drug planes being used also for illegal CIA rendition, the (hidden) owner of the flight school committing insider trading on 9/11, scams with non-existing companies which miraculously produce DC-9s, and much more...<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668">www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The video</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Ty Rauber made it and it has one actor playing all the parts -a conspiracy theorist, a paranoid "they're after us" type, an OCTer, a philospher and they are all discussing 911-it's kind of like this forum. He ties Kroll, CIA, AIG together, speculated that Kroll is a sort of privatized CIA, running on drug money but able to do what the CIA can't because they aren't allowed. Some of this relates to the Hopsicker story. <br><br>Why are these Kroll types anti terrorism experts; where do they get the information? Then they show how people move between these corporations and CIA . Doesn't spend a lot of time on the hows and why's of the actual day, more about drugs insurance companies/ CIA and the piece de resistance -what Al Qaeda really is and what Mohammed Atta's function was, his opinion will make a lot of sense as to Atta's behavior.<br><br>This is all for the same video , I gave different links in case some didn't work:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.wkjo.com">www.wkjo.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://whokilledjohnoneill.com">whokilledjohnoneill.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Movie Downloads:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.wkjo.com/downloads.html">www.wkjo.com/downloads.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Mirrors:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935">video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.archive.org/details/Who_Killed_John_ONeill">www.archive.org/details/Who_Killed_John_ONeill</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs302.xs.to/xs302/06254/wtc1.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Who needs a plane?<br><br>Disclaimer/copyright:<br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="font-size:xx-small;">All text taken from wikipedia is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights ). 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Re: New 9/11 CT: Who Killed John O'Neill?

Postby xsic bastardx » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:40 am

<br> So I am just finishing the "Who Killed John O'Neill" film. I personally like it. Tons of Info to get you going and that wall with all the links interconnected. I mean, fuck, that would have taken some time.<br><br>However....<br><br>I have been wondering about O'Neill for awhile. Granted this man was the leading guy on Tim Ossman and (ci)Al-Qaeda. However, if you look at the plans within plans and the feints within feints, the John O'Niell story doesn't add up.<br><br>If this guy was in the FBI for so long, then why did he wait untill 9/11 to speak up. Are we being led to believe that he had no INFO on the frist WTC bombing, no info on OKC? If we are to believe that this guy was the who's who of understanding Terrorisim, then why all of a sudden did he decide to come forth.<br><br>True, he was frustrated as many other fed agents at the GOV stonewalling of investigating the Hijackers but that doesn't explain if he was such a Patriot why didn't he start blowing whistles a long time ago.....<br><br><br><br>I <p></p><i></i>
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He couldn't blow the whistle

Postby DrDebugDU » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:32 am

All investigations upto now have been watered down versions of the real events filled with keywords. So al-Qaeda means drug dealers etc.<br><br>The point about John O'Neill is first that Kroll has a real bad conscience and that he would have investigated and produced a factual report, so even though there would have been several layers of deceipt it would have made it easier to peel away those layers and that is exactly what they didn't want. So there was lots of efforts where being applied to stop him from investigating since he was very stubborn and - most importantly - it would have been far too factual.<br><br>He couldn't have told the truth, since he was too deeply connected in the Octopus, but he would have made a factual investigation which was the last thing they wanted.<br><br>Another reason why I like to have his connected is that "anti-terrorism cop" part and that the video is very very good. It is almost as if there were some leads from friends of John. This video is a professional investigation.<br><br>Check out the research links in the post, because the whole story is extremely solid and there are lots of coincidences, evidence, prior connections etc. so this is IMO the best investigation into 9/11 I have ever seen and will produce a story which is many times more correct than the OCT or 9/11 truth. <p></p><i></i>
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O'Neill

Postby zjurhgvc » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:55 pm

I would like to know who is buried in John O'Neill's tomb. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: O'Neill

Postby NewKid » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:02 pm

You think he's still alive? Jerry Hauer was supposedly the guy who found his body. But what would you do with him? Where would he go? He could always turn around and blackmail these guys later if they had a falling out, so I don't see the value in keeping him alive or faking his death really. <br><br>I am also intrigued by the social security death and victim compensation stuff though. It's pretty strange. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Jonh O'Neill

Postby xsic bastardx » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:15 am

<br><br> New Kid do you got any real links for that SSA and Vitctims fund info? I had some but they all died...suprise suprise. For me I think that is the HUGE Elephant still in the room. I think this also lays credence to the mystery of what really happend in Cleveland on 9/11.<br> I loved the John O'Neill movie. In fact I got that same feeling that he had help. I have been reading into this shit for years and the connections this guy was spitting out made my head spin.<br> However, the Myth of John O'Neill could be a psy op. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jonh O'Neill

Postby NewKid » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:35 am

Damn, I just saw them in the comments somewhere. I think at one of the 9-11 blogger posts. I'll see if I can find them. <br><br>I don't know what to make of O'Neill. Chaim Kupferberg's articles on it are worth a read if you haven't seen those.<br><br>I can't imagine any big number of people would still be alive; to me that sounds pretty X-files-ish and I don't see any real rationale for it, but who knows. The victim fund stuff was worth six or seven figures to those families. Why the hell wouldn't they file? <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jonh O'Neill

Postby xsic bastardx » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:31 am

<br><br> From what I understand Two Filghts landed in Clevaland and one flight took off. All Un registered to land there. I think it is also a fact that one of the Flights on 9/11 WAS NOT even regsitered to fly on that day. I am saying that some of those people on those Filghts could have never existed. Some of the Hijackers weren't on thier so why wouldn't the make people up? I have seen the pictures of people being off loaded that plane....where are the people going and did they ever get back on?<br> If people aren't registered as dying that means either a) They Didn't Die b) They never existed.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jonh O'Neill

Postby NewKid » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:41 am

Yeah, I don't know what to make about that Cleveland stuff. Jim Hoffman says there's nothing there; at least what's in Loose Change 2. I'm open to it if I saw some hard evidence, but I have my doubts about why they would use a commercial airport to land and offload people (I would also think the people would already be dead at that point). A military base would be a whole lot better. And I think something must have gotten shot down or crashed in Shanksville. So what the hell was that? Shanskville was 10:03 or 10:06 and the Cleveland stuff is later like 11:00 or so isn't it? <br><br>As for fake passengers, sure, that's possible. Recall in Northwoods, they were going to have fake college kids, and fake funerals, and so I'm sure they had fake relatives on standby too. <br><br>However, the flight 93 people seem pretty real based on what I've seen. Jeremy Glick had an definite existence before 9-11, and Todd Beamer was definitely real (Richard Grove mentions some story about his Dad that has something to do with that whole Marsh/AIG stuff, which is somewhat eyebrow raising). Nevertheless, in any real investigation, that's one of the first things you'd have to do when you have victims' families not showing up claiming anything for their loss. It's obviously a very sensitive deal, so I don't think any amateur investigators out on the internet would ever be able to get to the bottom of it. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jonh O'Neill

Postby xsic bastardx » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:05 am

<br><br> You know, you can get lost in it all. Who knows. Anything is possible. It's this part of the story that I think people will never truly know. <br> I definately think flight 93 was shot down. The Coroner does a better Job talking about it than I do. I really don't understand why people aren't talking about that more.<br> The truly scary things is that 9/11 opened the door for anything. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jonh O'Neill

Postby Byrne » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:16 am

From <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/911passengerlist.html" target="top">69.28.73.17/thornarticles/911passengerlist.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The 9-11 Passenger List Oddity</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>by Vincent Sammartino <br> As everyone who is involved in exposing the 9-11 cover-up knows, nothing concerning 9-11 is as it seems. Whether it's the magic jet that our government told us crashed into the Pentagon, the obvious missing jet at Shanksville (Flight 93), the three perfect demolitions of the World Trade Center towers, or the fact that Arab hijackers are still alive and their supposed ring leader Osama bin Laden has the ability to change his facial features at will. Nothing, I repeat, nothing about the government/controlled media version of 9-11 makes any sense. <br><br>So, let's get one thing straight and out of the way right now. There are no such things as physical inconsistencies in the world we live in. We can always depend on the laws of physics to be consistent and unchanging. Coincidence is a self-contained human concept; and the real world - the atoms, molecules and planets that whiz around - don't care if you understand them. Likewise, they aren't concerned if their movement happens to favor you or not. I say this because, as Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani know (WING TV), this is the key to understanding what is real and what is contrived.<br><br>With that said, let me go back to sometime in February, 2004. At that time I had pretty much figured out that what had happened at the Pentagon and the WTC was a lie. I was still toying with the idea, though, that maybe (just maybe) our government had shot down Flight 93 in Shanksville in order to protect us from the real terrorists. <br><br>Then a few websites started to pop-up showing videos of what appeared to be a "pod" under Flight 175, along with an unexplained flash that happened just before the jet hit the South Tower. To me, this was just as damning as the Pentagon and the WTC collapses. There is no good reason for us to be seeing what we saw if the official government story was true. Think about this point for a minute. If what we saw was just an anomaly, then there must be millions of photos/videos of 757s taking off and landing at airports all over the world that look JUST LIKE THAT! If anybody has any jet photo anomalies they would like to share with us, please send them to Victor and Lisa at WING TV so we can clear this stuff up. <br><br>Which brings me to Ellen Mariani: she’s the woman who lost her husband Louis on Flight 175 that crashed into the South Tower on 9-11. With the help of a lawyer named Phil Berg, she filed a lawsuit against President Bush and company under the RICO act. Also, she refused to take the hush money that was offered to her under the 9-11 Victims Compensation fund.<br><br>In addition, I had just discovered Black Op Radio earlier in the year and found an interesting show in their archives (# 156) on which Ellen and Mr. Berg appeared as guests. This may be the single biggest point concerning 9-11, and hopefully the last nail in the coffin of our government's lies. During this broadcast, Mrs. Mariani said that she was the only relative of all the passengers that died on Flight 175 that crashed into the South Tower. Her lawyer, Phil Berg, repeated this statement.<br><br>I listened to this show over and over again and couldn't believe what she had just said. Everything came together at this point. That’s when it dawned on me that not only had our government lied about the physics of 9-11; they may very well have taken it one step farther by faking the number of people that died that day. I believed what she and Mr. Berg had just said. Nothing about 9-11 made any sense. Why should it start now?<br><br>Not knowing then what I know now, Ellen and Phil believed that for some reason the government was holding back the names of the people that had died on Flight 175. She had tried to get in touch with the relatives of other family members, but to no avail. You see, she and her lawyer believed, just like most other people believe, that four jets had been hijacked by Arab terrorists and crashed into buildings and into the ground at Shanksville. I, on the other hand, had already swept those lies aside. <br><br>Their statement also gave credence to the Fox News reporter who said that the jet which crashed into the South Tower had no windows. Hey, this jet appeared to have a "pod" under it anyway. The pieces of the puzzle were starting to fit. <br><br>Now, we come to most interesting stuff - the Social Security Death Index, and thanks to Victor Thorn's idea, the September 11th Victim’s Compensation Fund. After all, it's one thing to say that the flight lists are not on the up and up, but it's another thing to prove it. <br><br>The Social Security Death Index (SSDI) (Social Security Death Index) is a privately-owned website that is not affiliated with Social Security. It boasts an accuracy rate of about 83% (e-mail them any questions you may have). Anyway, to check its reliability, I inputted the names of people I knew that had died in my family, along with friends and neighbors. Being a true skeptic, I had no way of knowing whether they were telling the truth or not. With the exception of a cousin, I found everyone I was looking for. (Be sure you have the person's true first name - they may not be listed by the state they last lived in, but can be found in the state where their social security number was issued.) By all means try it yourself.<br><br>Which brings us to the 9-11 Victims Compensation Fund (also known as the Shut Up and Take the Money Fund), which most of you have heard about. <br><br>9-11 Victims Compensation Fund <br><br>This is where our government opened up the Treasury and gave family members of those who lost their lives that day lots of money. In return, these families were basically told to shut up about anything else concerning 9-11. (Considering all the lies surrounding this horrific event, you can see why.) <br><br>At this point there is one thing we should never forget, and that is how powerful the notion of human greed is. Remember this concept as you read the number of victims whose family members sought compensation. <br><br>The names of the victims can be found on the CNN website. <br><br>Here are the results: <br><br>Flight 11: of the 92 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 20 are listed in the SSDI (22%)<br><br>Of these 20 people, only three are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:<br><br>Judy Larocque <br>Laurie Neira<br>Candace Lee Williams<br><br>=======================================<br><br>Flight 77: of the 64 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 14 are listed in the SSDI (22%)<br><br>Of these 64 people, only five on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:<br><br>William Caswell<br>Eddie Dillard<br>Ian Gray<br>John Sammartino<br>Leonard Taylor<br><br>=======================================<br><br>Flight 175: of the 65 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 18 are listed in the SSDI (28%)<br><br>Of these 65 people, only three are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:<br><br>Michael C. Tarrou<br>Gloria Debarrera<br>Timothy Ward<br><br>======================================= <br><br>Flight 93: of the 45 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 6 are listed in the SSDI (13%)<br><br>Of these 45 people, none are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:<br><br>No one<br><br>=======================================<br><br>Have you noticed anything strange yet? Of the passengers and crew of Flight 11, 77, 175 & 93, only 22%, 22%, 28%, 13% respectively are in the SSDI. <br><br>Remember human greed? Of the 266 people that we were told died on these jets, only 11 relatives applied for compensation. Can you believe that not a single relative from Flight 93 applied for compensation? I can't. Were all the relatives of the victims so rich that they weren't eligible to receive compensation? No, that's not it. (The minimum federal award was $250,000, and the average pay-out was about $1.8 million. The recipients only had to make agreement: they couldn’t sue the airlines.) <br><br>You should also know that most lawyers told their clients to take the money and run (which is what most lawyers would do - take the sure money). Ellen Mariani clearly elaborated on this point during her appearance on the radio show mentioned above. <br><br>Finally, during the past week, thanks to Lisa Guliani's insatiable quest for the truth, the 9-11 Victims Compensation Final Report has come to light. <br><br>9-11 Victims Compensation Final Report <br><br>Oddly, but consistent with everything concerning 9-11, the actual complete list of the people who benefited has been omitted from this report. Even without this, it does contain an interesting fact. According to the report, 98% of all the people who suffered a loss on 9-11 took the fund money. The average payment was $1.8 million. <br><br>But here's where it gets strange. According to the government, here are the number of people who accepted the compensation fund:<br><br>Out of a total of 92 people on Flight 11, only 65 accepted the 9-11 fund (71%) <br>Out of a total of 65 people on Flight 175, only 46 accepted the 9-11 fund (71%)<br>Out of a total of 64 people on Flight 77, only 33 accepted the 9-11 fund (52%)<br>Out of a total of 45 people on Flight 93, only 25 accepted the 9-11 fund (56%)<br><br>Does any of this seem a little odd to you? Or is it possible that not only were the jets on 9-11 magical, but their passengers as well? <br><br>So there you have it; yet another glaring 9-11 inconsistency - just maybe the biggest of them all? <br><br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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O'Neill should have survived

Postby DrDebugDU » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:18 am

It's clear that they wanted him to die in WTC, however he got out and was running around the scene. And at the moment of the Controlled Demolition he happened to be near WTC2. It makes it clear that he was 9/11 survivor who didn't survive because they didn't want him to.<br><br>The movie and the discussion is about much more:<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Indentified groups:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>AIG as Money Laundering Inc.<br>Marsh as Terrorism Inc.<br>Kroll as the privatized CIA Inc.<br>al-Cokeda as the drug dealers in the flight school who are later called terrorists in the OCT.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Ownership:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>American International Group = Maurice "Hank" Greenberg<br>Marsh & McLennan = Jeffrey Greenberg<br>Ace = Evan Greenberg (not featured in the story thus far)<br>al-Cokeda probably run by Adnan Khashoggi<br><br>Kroll always had AIG as shareholder and is currently part of Marsh.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Possible teams for 9/11:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>October 11, 2001 Marsh established specialized terrorism team called Marsh Crisis Consultancy<br>The following teams were added to it: Control Risks Group, a British ex-SAS team and Versar homeland defense team. The same group could have known each other from 9/11<br><br>Kroll has military team in their company and merged with Armor Holdings on August 23rd thus adding Defence Systems Limited, another Private Military Corporation, to their operations, an ex-KGB team called Alpha Firm was earlier acquired by Defence Systems Limited.<br><br>That makes at least four teams which could have been used on 9/11.<br>Additional teams from the military could have been used as well.<br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;">They had the means to do this.</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br>* Marsh had full control on WTC1 where they occupied all floors.<br>* Marsh had the top floor of the WTC2 "impact" and could have worked their way down, however the main occupant was Fuji bank with whom AIG did a lot of work and also featured in Iran- Contra.<br>* WTC7 contained a CIA office and Kroll and AIG are very closely related to the CIA and it is very likely that Kroll is the privatized version of the CIA The Pentagon was of course under their own control.<br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;">They had the opportunity to do this.</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br>* AIG/Kroll/Marsh are closely connected to the Bush administration, to Henry Kissinger.<br>* AIG/Kroll/Marsh are also closely related to the Intelligence Community.<br>* AIG/Kroll/Marsh capitalized on 9/11 and it was good for their business.<br>* AIG was laundering drug money for al-Cokeda.<br>* AIG was involved in the oil and gas line to Afghanistan<br>* There is reason to believe that the Taliban either cut back on the drug trade or that they went into business for themselves. Either way the flow of heroin from Afghanistan was drastically limited.<br>* Greenberg and Khashoggi had a business relation and benefited for the narcotics from Afghanistan<br>and had interest in the oil and gas line as well<br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;">They had motive to do this.</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: O'Neill should have survived

Postby NewKid » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:09 am

It's all pretty strange on the passengers. You'd think anyone designing this would have the right hijackers and the right passengers on the right planes that would all die in the right place. It obviously doesn't make any sense under the official theory and it doesn't make much sense under a well executed MIHOP. But it might make very good sense under a botched MIHOP of some kind, where two or more factions were involved and they didn't work well together or one doublecrossed the other. I don't know; it could be that some of those people who were passengers were actually passengers on some other flights and not the four that were hijacked. So they may still be dead and all, but they may not be able to document that their relatives are on the right flights, which is probably required for the 9-11 money. Or maybe they were paid off through some separate fund or something. <br><br>Obviously speculation, but botched/doublecross MIHOP also possibly explains the embarrassingly long wait with no air defense at the Pentagon (and what's likely Cheney's angered ad hoc standdown), why the four planes didn't hit within 20 or 30 minutes of each other, why some hijackers might still be alive and/or there's no proof of which hijackers are on the planes, the absurdity of building 7, Bush's lack of security and his flying around the country, and why there were several other minor incidents that happened that day that disappeared down the memory hole. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: O'Neill should have survived

Postby DrDebugDU » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:27 am

They didn't need any planes and added them later for drama. The primary suspect was at the exact point of impact. Oh yeah, the Greenberg family is also partners in fraud with the Bush family.<br><br>The dots on the screen were all virtual from war games and they manipulated the video images (don't forget that the media on 110th floor were almost completely empty that day).<br><br>It was one huge psyops campaign to make people look the other way and not look what was on the inside of the impact areas.<br><br>Or do you really believe that Mohammed Atta while approaching WTC1 at 300+ mph also counted the floors to hit it exactly between the 93th and 100th floor.<br><br>All this stuff is now backed up with "coincidental stories" in the discussion forum link in the OP. With stuff like competitors getting eliminated the bloody way as well. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 6/27/06 9:34 am<br></i>
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Re: O'Neill should have survived

Postby NewKid » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:32 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The dots on the screen were all virtual from war games and they manipulated the video images (don't forget that the media on 110th floor were almost completely empty that day). <br><br>It was one huge psyops campaign to make people look the other way and not look what was on the inside of the impact areas.<br><br>Or do you really believe that Mohammed Atta while approaching WTC1 at 300+ mph also counted the floors to hit it exactly between the 93th and 100th floor.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Not sure those are our only choices. Are you thinking there were no planes at all that hit the towers? Or that they were drones or a missile or what? <br> <p></p><i></i>
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