James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

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James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:25 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=wNGQrVxotxI&search=jim%20fetzer">video here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>I have some big issues with Fetzer (his Zapruder is a hoax theory, for one), but he does well here. I'm especially grateful that, when asked for evidence of administration collusion, he cites Norman Mineta's testimony of Cheney's "of course the order still stands."<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

Postby NewKid » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:32 pm

Yeah, I feel the same about Fetzer, but I agree he kicked Ollie's unprepared ass. Notice Mineta resigned the next day. Barrett does pretty well against Hannity here. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=135" target="top">www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=135</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

Postby Gouda » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:16 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Cheney tapes</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (released by law and/or “presidential signing statement” 500 years post-administration)…<br><br>***<br><br>Cheney to chief of staff D. Addington: “Is Fetzer one of ours?”<br><br>Addington: “Was. Lateral defection.”<br><br>Cheney: “Damn it Dave, this scholar shit could get out of hand. And fucking Ollie's all softened up by the TV cameras."<br><br>Addington: "Yeah..."<br><br>Cheney: "Ok, but what's got me spooked right now is the Putin thing.”<br><br>Addington: "Yes."<br><br>Cheney: “No mistake there. He tagged the kid right on the belly.”<br><br>(pause)<br><br>Addington: "We're going to have to adjust our posture..."<br><br>Cheney: “All right, we’ll deal with the profs later. Get Petrograd on the line.”<br><br>***<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><br>Edit: What? Nobody caught that I had the wrong chief of staff? Meant Cheney's COS: David Addington, not Larry Wilkerson, Powell's former COS. Corrected.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 7/12/06 5:46 am<br></i>
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Re: James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

Postby NewKid » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:37 pm

I just figured out who Kevin Barrett reminds me of. Jon Corzine. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.newshounds.us/2006/07/11/hannitys_bullyboy_theatrics_no_match_for_professor_kevin_barrett.php" target="top">www.newshounds.us/2006/07/11/hannitys_bullyboy_theatrics_no_match_for_professor_kevin_barrett.php</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

Postby NewKid » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:55 pm

That Colmes. Always helping out the conspiracy folks. <br><br>Way too much KoolAid for Althouse and debunkerman. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/2006/07/conspiradroid-gets-his-ass-kicked-on.html" target="top">911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/2006/07/conspiradroid-gets-his-ass-kicked-on.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=newkid@rigorousintuition>NewKid</A> at: 7/11/06 9:02 pm<br></i>
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Re: James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

Postby NewKid » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:01 pm

You, 9-11 denialist, you! <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://instapundit.com/archives/031371.php" target="top">instapundit.com/archives/031371.php</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

Postby chiggerbit » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:49 am

I wonder if that Ann Althouse realizes how pompous she sounds on "paper". Has that UW course sold out yet? Interesting. Wisconsin may be on to something here by allowing this kind of debate to occur in a class forum. If UW has discovered the popularity of this topic of debate, can the media be far behind? I would think it would make for some interesting tv, haven't figured out why they haven't realized the fact yet.<br><br>This part was hilarious. Actually, I was surprised at how inaccurate this woman's description was, across the board. <br>The right must be really sweating that the topic is being given a credible forum to make its point.<br><br>"....From the moment he begins speaking, Barrett twitches and jerks around quite oddly and speaks in a breathless, excited way. He tries to unload a torrent of words about the theory and won't stop to give Colmes a chance to get through his series of questions, which are quite clearly designed to put Barrett in a positive light. Barrett, however, is so keen on his theory, he'd rather spout conspiracy. He looks nutty even before Hannity starts the questions that are meant to trash him. That is, Barrett's a witness who mucks up the direct examination. It doesn't take cross-examination to bring out the problems.<br><br>When Hannity takes over, Barrett interrupts him in the middle of his first question. When Hannity insists on finishing the question, Barrett smugly goes "Yeah, yeah, finish up." On Hannity's show! As if he thinks the only people who are watching are folks who think Hannity's a jackass. Hannity asks him if he really believes 9/11 and other terrorists attacks were "an inside job." Barrett, inspiring no confidence that he will allow students to debate with him, says sharply, "I don't believe, I do know that 9/11 was an inside job." Barrett then tries to lay out the details of the theory. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The word "thermate" comes out of his mouth. (It's supposed to be "thermite," but why be precise?) [ADDED: Apparently, there is something called "thermate," which, like thermite, has a role in the conspiracy theory.]</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->...."<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 7/12/06 9:06 am<br></i>
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Re: James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

Postby stickdog99 » Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:49 pm

Having Ollie North argue against government conspiracies was a nice touch. Too bad the whole concept of irony is way over the heads of most Fox News viewers. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

Postby NewKid » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:01 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The word "thermate" comes out of his mouth. (It's supposed to be "thermite," but why be precise?) [ADDED: Apparently, there is something called "thermate," which, like thermite, has a role in the conspiracy theory.]...."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yeah, irony is lost on most of these folks. (Will Altmouse do a parody of this?)<br><br>It doesn't look like Althouse, Hannity, North et al. even know the official story, much less any of the substance of any other theories. I don't think Hannity even tried to make a single substantive point in favor of the official version. How long will/did it take them to find 9-11 myths? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: James Fetzer on Fox with Colmes and Oliver North

Postby streeb » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:05 pm

Check Ollie's smirk when he refers to "having been involved in a couple of controversial undertakings myself." Real fuckin cute. <p></p><i></i>
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