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Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby nomo » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:21 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://villagevoice.com/film/0632,halter,74115,20.html">villagevoice.com/film/063...15,20.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Fakes on a Plane<br>Conspiracy buffs craft their own online WTC movies<br>August 7th, 2006 10:14 PM<br>by Ed Halter <br><br>Oliver Stone and Paramount are intent on getting out the message that <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> World Trade Center</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> doesn't traffic in fringy speculations about the 9-11 attacks—since the unabashedly liberal director's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> JFK</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> (1991) stands as the most mainstream movie elaboration of conspiracy theory to date. Paramount retained Creative Response Concepts—the same marketing firm responsible for the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign and numerous other conservative causes—and Stone's talking point became "This is not a political film." (See J.Hoberman's <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://villagevoice.com/film/0632,hoberman,74110,20.html">review</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->.) Studio reps screened portions of the film on Capitol Hill a few weeks ago in a preemptive strike against potential red-state congressional grumblers. And indeed, right-wing pundits have so far embraced the movie: "It is one of the greatest pro-American, pro-family, pro-male, flag-waving, God Bless America films you will ever see," Fox News' Cal Thomas gushed in his syndicated column.<br><br>But Stone's attempt at muffling his <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> JFK</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> rep has raised hackles within the burgeoning world of conspiracy theorists. David Slesinger of <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.911courage.com">911courage.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->—one of countless sites devoted to alternative explanations of the events of September 11—organized a "call to action" to his fellow "9-11 Truth activists." Slesinger proposes staging nonviolent protests on the film's opening weekend by flyering and picketing "suburban mall theaters" that explicitly prohibit such activity, in hopes of garnering media attention through activist arrests. <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://theresistancemanifesto.com/">TheResistanceManifesto.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, run by one "John Conner" (presumably self-styled after <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> The Terminator</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->'s hero), denounces <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>World Trade Center </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->as "the biggest 9/11 whitewash in history." Asks Conner: "Was Stone used by the Illuminati as an unknowing pawn to whitewash the 9/11 conspiracy theories to the masses?" When lefty news aggregator the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://rawstory.com">Raw Story</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> posted a release linking to Slesinger and Conner, it drew so many readers that Conner's site temporarily crashed from bandwidth overload. Another site, <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://prisonplanet.com">prisonplanet.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, argues that advance clips from <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> World Trade Center</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> seem to include the sounds of bombs going off in the buildings. "Only when Oliver Stone's movie is rolled out nationwide," Prisonplanet writes, "will we be able to comb through it for more proof that Stone is clued in to the 9/11 truth movement and the complete fraud of the government fairy tale."<br><br>Thanks to this active online community, 9-11 Truth seekers don't need Stone to see their theories propounded in cinematic form. In the half-decade since 2001, as a loose congeries of varied political fringe groups and conspiracy hounds melded with a newly radicalized crop of Bush-burnt Americans to form a growing network of like-minded skeptics, the movement has fostered a robust filmmaking subculture of its own. Nearly 20 feature-length videos have been circulating through its ranks, first on DVD, more recently for free through video services like Google and YouTube. Directors have become important figures within the movement. And the audience is out there—more than you might think. An oft quoted May 2006 Zogby poll found that 42 percent of Americans believed that "there has been a cover-up" about 9-11 on the part of the government and the 9-11 Commission. <br><br>With forthright titles like <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> The Truth & Lies of 911</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> The Great Conspiracy</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, and <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> September 11th the Con, the Conspiracy, the Cover-Up</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, these home-brewed affairs play like the audiovisual descendants of old self-published conspiracy books: cheaply made, but spiced with highly idiosyncratic, lurid aesthetics. Their world-historical urgency is often endearingly undercut by an ill-lit, room-toned cable-access vibe, or the pasteboard rented-studio stiffness of a late-night infomercial. Their raison d'être, without exception, is the presentation of "evidence" that key parts of the standard narrative just don't "add up." The litany of examples changes, but is drawn from a common pool: The twin towers and nearby WTC 7 could only have fallen the way they did from a controlled demolition, key video messages from Osama bin Laden appear to portray a bin Laden impostor, no footage exists of a plane hitting the Pentagon, and so on. The conclusion, always, is that 9-11 was an "inside job." Though the skeptics don't agree on the perpetrators, most point to the Bush administration and neocon high-ups, and nobody seems to think Al Qaeda acted alone. On first viewing, some movies can be powerfully effective. For viewers already distrustful of Bush, they function as epistemological horror films, evoking fears that the state of the world may be even worse than it already is, due not to apparent hubris, negligence, and ineptitude, but rather a thrillingly brilliant cabal of evil elites: the perfect movie villains, and the inverse of the neocons' own terrorist demons.<br><br>A few conspiracy films include original interviews with witnesses (or more often, an echo chamber of fellow skeptics). The bulk of footage consists of the analysis of media artifacts found online: website pages of "buried" news stories, animated diagrams, tinny compressed video clips, and neo–Ken Burnsian digital zooms into pixelated photos. In this respect, these Truth movies feel like the birth of a documentary form uniquely native to the online culture: the DIY results of hours upon hours of Googling, blogging, and Photoshopping.<br><br>The most shoestring works, like Eric Hufschmid's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Painful Deceptions</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, could barely be called movies, operating merely as multimedia slide shows with theorizing voiceover. Others, like BYU physicist Steven Jones's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>9-11: Scientific and Ethical Questions</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, are little more than videotaped live PowerPoint presentations (though Jones's soft-spoken Midwestern timbre adds surprisingly powerful drama). The most extreme example of this info- centrism is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>911 Stranger Then </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->[sic]<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> Fiction</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, in which a computer-generated voice reads scrolling text for two hours, occasionally interspersed with a flash of something grabbed from Google's image search. It's so sparsely experimental that one might mistake it for a work of video art. That is, until it begins railing against the "Zionist mafia"-—another unfortunate tendency of the genre.<br><br>Other directors have begun to uplift Truthie cinema. Austin, Texas, talk- radio host Alex Jones has pumped out a string of slicker productions, including <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Martial Law 9-11: Rise of the Police State</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>911: The Road to Tyranny</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, and <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Police State III: Total Enslavement</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, in addition to earlier pre–9-11 videos about other conspiracies. A strident opponent of the "New World Order," Jones cuts a more Michael Moore–esque figure, inserting footage of himself "bullhorning" at protests, interviewing bystanders, and being subsequently harassed by police—and in his recent <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>TerrorStorm</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, briefly confronts Moore himself. Jones's preacherly theatrics have helped him rack up a few Hollywood connections. Charlie Sheen is an outspoken fan, and Jones has contributed animated cameos in Richard Linklater's films <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Waking Life</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>A Scanner Darkly</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.<br><br>22-year-old director Dylan Avery of Oneonta, New York, has emerged as the hot young star of the skeptic set with his 2005 'tude-filled feature <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Loose Change.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Avery claims in a recent <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Vanity Fair</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> profile that he's received over 50,000 orders for the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Loose Change</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> DVD and over 10 million viewings online, and says he's in talks with a number of studios to release an updated cut of the film on September 11, 2006. His name frequently pops up in Technorati's daily list of most searched-for keywords, and his MySpace profile boasts over 3,500 friends. By mainstream media standards, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Loose Change</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> remains ultra–low budget, but with Avery's casual, no-nonsense voiceover, tight editing, and hip-hop DJ'd score, it's by far the most accomplished and accessible example of 9-11 Truth cinema, though not free of the questionable fact-sourcing practiced by its peers (most egregious: "According to Wikipedia . . . ").<br><br>In true Internet fashion, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Loose Change</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> has even spawned a counter-video. Mark Iradian's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Screw Loose Change</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> takes on "911 deniers" by subtitling a running commentary over Avery's video, parrying and mocking his arguments as they unfold. William Lewis and Dave von Kleist's woefully titled <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>911 in Plane Site</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> also generated a critique, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Not in Plain Sight</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. In this case, the attack comes from within the movement: <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Not in Plain Sight</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->'s anonymous author claims that <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>In Plane Site</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> is so full of errors that it must be intentional disinformation created to mislead and discredit the movement. (<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Not in Plain Sight</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> also includes the most wonderfully bizarre music of any of these works: looping, whoomping synth blurts that resemble discarded takes from the 1980 <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Flash Gordon</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> soundtrack.)<br><br>Despite these limits, the 9-11 conspiracy docs will surely inspire further imitation, and their wiki-style muckraking is bound to dig up something important during an administration addicted to data-fudging and cover-ups. In a world that increasingly seems all fringe and no center, other radical and niche ideologies will undoubtedly embrace the no-holds-barred, blog-friendly, direct-to-YouTube format. With any luck, we'll see a whole new batch three years from now, made by embittered, paranoid conservatives who have been voted out of power.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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complicity

Postby dugoboy » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:42 pm

character assassination. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT." -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell</p><i></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby stickdog99 » Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:08 pm

Just more of the same ol' saner-than-thou pop culture psychoanalysis-babble.<br><br>It must be great to be able to expertly diagnose sociological paranoia with so little investigation or effort. Just casually watch a few movies that you've determined beforehand prove as much, then blithely announce the incontrovertibly self-evident fact that you were indeed right all along.<br><br>No unanswered questions about what happened on 9/11 need to be considered at all as they are completely irrelevant to the predetermined diagnosis.<br><br>The <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>New Times</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> they aren't a-changing. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=stickdog99>stickdog99</A> at: 8/9/06 6:09 pm<br></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby orz » Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:28 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>With any luck, we'll see a whole new batch three years from now, made by embittered, paranoid conservatives who have been voted out of power.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Haha what a punchline. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> wait, this isn't an Onion article again?<br><br>Have to admit tho, "Fakes on a Plane" is a preeeety good stupid pun headline. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=orz@rigorousintuition>orz</A> at: 8/9/06 6:52 pm<br></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby HMKGrey » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:05 am

Meant to say this the other day...<br><br>Has anyone else seen the TV trailer for WTC? <br><br>Amazing. The music is Coldplay's 'Fix You' (a beautiful hymn-like song that builds in to a wonderfully OTT chorus and refrain) and the voice over comes in with "Every generation has it's defining moment..."<br><br>The next 30 seconds makes you think that Nic Cage has just won the Superbowl or something. <br><br>It's a) horrifically and horribly tilted towrads a sort of '9/11 was our Woodstock but with more dead bodies' kind of sensibility and b) there's not one glimpse of tragedy or sorrow. It's just triumph of the will. <br><br>It's like a re-framing of the 9/11 narrative. I came away from it and thought, "Wow. In ten years time we'll be supposed to be glad it happened!"<br><br>How's that for an end run around being found out? <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby so buttons » Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:55 am

i never watch regis and kelly (i swear!) but i happened to be home and i had it on the other morning, and maggie gyllenhaal was on promoting the WTC movie.<br><br>the clip they showed consisted of family members informing her that her man had been recovered, alive, from ground zero. the clip ends with the whole family laughing when they come to realize that they didn't ask where they needed to go to pick him up. the whole family laughing. they panned back to the interview as the audience chuckled and appladed warm-heartedly. for the world trade center movie.<br><br>every generation has its defining moment...this was ours. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby orz » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:45 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>'9/11 was our Woodstock but with more dead bodies'<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:29 am

Yep "you are the generation that bought more shoes and you get what you deserve."<br><br>Funny the way there are 2 sept 11 movies coming out, one British (Ft 93) one US(O Stone's). And just around the time of these new potential terrorist events, so magnificently foiled by the pommy coppers. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby HMKGrey » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:35 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Funny the way there are 2 sept 11 movies coming out, one British (Ft 93) one US(O Stone's). And just around the time of these new potential terrorist events, so magnificently foiled by the pommy coppers.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yeah, it's a bit like all those dinosaur bones stories appearing around the time of <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Jurassic Park</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and all the global warming stuff around the time of <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Day After Tomorrow</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. <br><br>Military-Industrial-<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Entertainment</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->-Complex. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby HMKGrey » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:41 pm

And don't forget Kean and Hamilton's book which even Lou Dobbs is all over now... need to quash that. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby nomo » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:51 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>It's like a re-framing of the 9/11 narrative. I came away from it and thought, "Wow. In ten years time we'll be supposed to be glad it happened!"<br></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>Exactly. Here's the closing paragraph from A.O. Scott's review for the New York Times:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In the Sept. 11 of “World Trade Center,” feeling transcends politics, and the film’s astonishingly faithful re-creation of the emotional reality of the day produces a curious kind of nostalgia. It’s not that anyone would wish to live through such agony again, but rather that the extraordinary upsurge of fellow feeling that the attacks produced seems precious. And also very distant from the present. Mr. Stone has taken a public tragedy and turned it into something at once genuinely stirring and terribly sad. His film offers both a harrowing return to a singular, disastrous episode in the recent past and a refuge from the ugly, depressing realities of its aftermath.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://movies2.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/movies/09worl.html">movies2.nytimes.com/2006/...9worl.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Aaah.... Remember 9/11? Those were the days, man.<br><br>Me, if I've any nostalgia, it would be to the time before the attack. Hell, to before Bush took the White House. <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=nomo@rigorousintuition>nomo</A> at: 8/10/06 11:51 am<br></i>
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Oliver Stoned

Postby streeb » Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:58 pm

When the movie JFK was released, I recall Oliver Stone's comment - in the face of a withering gale of criticism and ridicule - that the Warren Commission was a "myth" and his movie "an attempt at counter-myth." I thought it was very well-put, trenchant, and brave. I also appreciated that he made no claim to the truth. Since then, his career has really been a puzzle. I haven't seen WTC, don't really want to pay to see it, but I'm extemely curious. He was savvy enough to make Salvador 20 years ago, but a lot of coke has passed through the system since then. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby StarmanSkye » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:22 pm

"Aaah.... Remember 9/11? Those were the days, man.<br><br>Me, if I've any nostalgia, it would be to the time before the attack. Hell, to before Bush took the White House."<br><br>***<br><br>VERY good, strAInge alright, straight-up.<br><br>The 'message' being written for the history books seems to be, "We're better people for it."<br><br>Of course -- That helps justify the disaster and redeems the suffering and loss of life (according to the script, anyway.) It'll be hard to ever see 'Never Forget' without thinking about 9/11.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Village Voice 'reviews' 9/11 movies

Postby HMKGrey » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:24 pm

<br><br>Interesting that we've had Stone and Gibson eating their reps in recent weeks. You kinda wonder... After JFK, did Stone get a visit? Did he have his Bill Hicks moment? Did he get told by someone that he was going to get a pass on JFK but that he'd have to make another movie some time later that would be a bit more to the tastes of the elite? Otherwise... <br><br>I know it's far fetched. But you wonder. I've only seen the trailers but even they are offensive. I don't think that even Spielberg has pulled the emotional strings so blatantly and gratuitously in a while and it's completely baffling for Stone to be doing it. It's out of character. It's out of synch for him and makes no sense. <p></p><i></i>
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