Analyzing South Park's 9/11 Show

by **seemslikeadream** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:27 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins are ya there? <img src="http://www.chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_roland/South%20Park%20Chef.jpg" style="border:0;"/> <a href="http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bill_dou_061012_analyzing_south_park.htm" target="top">www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bill_dou_061012_analyzing_south_park.htm</a> October 12, 2006 at 19:03:03 by Bill Douglas http://www.opednews.com Last night I watched South Park in AMAZEMENT, as their character for the 9/11 truth movement wore a black shirt with "911TRUTH.ORG" in huge white letters that ALWAYS seemed to be facing the viewers. It got better, Cartman and his buddy actually got to the White House where Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al, confessed to the crimes of 9/11. Then things descended, and it was all a hoax, and Bush et al said that actually they were the ones who created the 9/11 truth movement, to fool Americans into believing they controlled everything, and that all those tens of millions believing 9/11 was an inside job were fools manipulated by the smart Bush people. So many possibilities emerge from this. One thing I've found over the last few years is that media will often write a "9/11 hit piece" and then weave within it many links and information that gets the reader curious about the fact that the official story doesn't really make sense, when you look at it. This harkens back to the old KGB run Soviet Union, where journalists would "hide" facts within stories, and the Soviet people were savvy enough to get the "real" message. A few months after 9/11 a Canadian newspaper writer did just this, writing what looked like a 9/11 hit piece, but working major disturbing facts in it, and then giving my email address findtruth40@hotmail.com for those wanting more information. When I called him, he apologized for the hit piece quality, but said that's the only way he could get the facts to the public, past his editor. The result was amazing. I got hundreds of emails from angry Canadians who believed that 9/11 was an inside job, and who'd read past the Trojan horse hit piece aspect and saw the facts within the article. I believe the makers of South Park may have been doing the same thing. The reason I say this, is because the "911TRUTH.ORG" organizer character was on the screen A LOT, with his chest, where the t-shirt said "911TRUTH.ORG" in huge white letters aimed right at the camera or the viewers. It was up on the screen for a long, long, long time. When I went to www.911truth.org last night while the show was on it was slower than it had ever been. My educated guess is that this was due to MASSIVE traffic on the site, people watching South Park were running to their computers to check out this 911TRUTH.ORG. 911truth.org is one of the finest 9/11 truth websites, and a GREAT portal for new people to enter the 9/11 truth movement. Perhaps the South Park creators were savvy enough to do what the Canadian newspaper writer had done early on, get the message out "in any way possible." Now, having said that, there is another aspect of the South Park episode, that bears dealing with. If we take the episode at face value, which as I've already said, I think their objective was more sympathetic to 9/11 truth seekers than what the surface suggested, we see another issue. In the episode, at the end, the Bush White House was again actually the organizer of the 9/11 truth seeking movement and websites to make Americans think that they were all powerful, and would not want to challenge them. Its funny because this is a line I've heard from a few peace & justice organizers over the years, as I've desperately tried to get them to take on 9/11 truth, and the government's lies and cover ups regarding 9/11. They said their people would be overwhelmed, and "give up" if they thought the government was behind 9/11. In essence they thought they had to "protect their people" from the truth. These organizers greeted us with suspicion, and some said that by talking about 9/11, we were "distracting" people from the issue of war, as if they were thinking what the South Park episode had suggested that 9/11 truth seekers were from the government. That is dangerous heady territory for human beings to enter, when they have to hide facts from the people they represent. And the fact is, it wasn't true. We, the 9/11 truth seeking movement, came together during the massive protests against the build up for war. We purchased and distributed thousands of "Stop the 9/11 Cover Up" signs at the major peace demonstrations in New York and San Francisco in the lead up to the war. The marchers were HUNGRY for them. Many putting aside their peace signs they'd brought for the march in favor of holding "Stop the 9/11 Cover Up". They saw the reality that until this lie is exposed, our people will be frightened into giving all they have for weapons and protection. They saw that the 9/11 lie was not just about war in Iraq, but war in Iran, Syria, Venezuela, and wherever there was oil, as described in the PNAC document which called for an attack on the US homeland to frighten Americans into agreeing to this insane oil grabbing foreign policy. The other aspect of the South Park episode that bears scrutiny is the idea that "19 crazy Moslems" as the South Park writers wrote, fooled the trillion dollar US air defense and intelligence behemouth and slipped in to fly hijacked planes for an hour and a half flying perfect bullseyes into three highly protected buildings, without one interceptor showing up until it was too late. Then in their story the Bush people acted like 9/11 truth seekers to "fool Americans" into thinking that Bush et al DID do 9/11, so that Americans would think the Bush people were all powerful. Of course the initial obvious problem with this is that if the massive military industrial complex of the United States is so "powerless" that they couldn't have pulled this off, how are we to believe that 19 ragtag Moslems directed by someone in a cave with a cell phone could do it. It's insane on its face. However, the most disturbing aspect of this is the idea that we accept this absurdity, and give up our power to actually look at the facts. That we accept this schizophrenic reality, and assume that our government is simultaneously powerless to stop 19 ragtag Moslems, and yet sophisticated enough to create a false 9/11 truth movement. This tells Americans that it's all way too complex, and you should just give up, sit back, and let the smart people like "Bush" and "Cheney" run things. Yeah right, let them run things right into the proverbial ground. But, as I said, I am an optimist. I believe this South Park episode sent thousands and thousands of people to 911TRUTH.ORG where they learned a lot, and will share that with others. I believe there is great hope for truth, and our nation, and our world. It is always darkest before the dawn. When Americans realize how they've been lied to, they will begin to question EVERYTHING. This will break the glass menagerie twinkling lies and reveal that a free energy electric economy has been possible for ten years, and covered up. (See "Who Killed the Electric Car."). They will see that we can export this and other renewable technology worldwide, creating jobs here, increased health, and a calmer less energy starved world. I see great things for humanity. But, we'd need to kick our politicians and media in the butt to make a few things happen first. www.CongratulationsDemocratsNOWdoYourJob.com is a way to do that. Every morning people sit down with their morning coffee there, and begin the drum beat that will force our media and Congress to do their jobs. South Park sent thousands to 911Truth.org's wonderful website. The truth is coming. It may not always look the way we thought it would, when it came out, but truth is relentless. Like the water that carved out the Grand Canyon. Truth keeps coming and will not go away. By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, 9/11 and Media Crimes" and also "Why the Jewish Community Should Demand 9/11 Truth."

by **sunny** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:40 pm

My son loves South Park, while I deeply despise it. He was over the other night when it was on and refused to watch, saying "aww man, they're making fun of it." and I'm like "wait! 9/11Truth.org really exists-all kinds of people will go there and find out the truth." I still hate SP, but at least in this instance, they performed a service, imo, intentional or not.

by **dugoboy** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:47 pm

the things i noticed most were: -comparing 9/11 conspiracy theory to anti-semitism and "zionist jews running everything" -it ends suggesting the government runs all the 9/11 truth websites so the government would make us believe they did 9/11 so they could make us believe they really run everything and that that's some how comforting. this concept is actually premised on the 'incompetent government' meme and suggests the government knows how incompetent it is so it started running 9/11 complicity websites trying to make us believe they did it and so psychologically it hides their true incompetence from to citizen's mind. (i didn't say it wasn't tortured logic). -i never watch south park. lol. ___________________________________________ "Fascism finds root best in unreality and dysfunction." - Me "Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell "When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma Gandhi

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:53 pm

My things are getting weird, aren't they? I wonder who those boys have been talking to and where exposure marginalizes an idea instead of spreading it. Complicated. But I do understand the dynamics of 'absolute value' and the use of steganography to slip info past gatekeepers to embed into curious minds. "Now I would never accuse Mr. McCain of having a black love child" - sort of thing. This is what Rove is known for with his 'turd blossoms.' Perhaps the devil is in the demographic details. If you are a young South Park fan using the internet, you probably already have been exposed to the 9/11 truth movement. If you are just a South Park cable TV fan, you probably are holding the line with 'too cool for school' skepticism and maybe even outright scorn at the 'conspiracy theorists.' If you haven't talked to people about 9/11, I'm here to tell you that very often this CT expression jumps out of their mouths first thing as if to say 'I'm not crazy' before they voice any opinion. So the net effect of this South Park episode might be to further polarize the young 9/11 Know Somethings vs the Know Nothings. And creating social firewalls between those two demographics is a control goal. Here's what South Park fans see today going where the finger points -- <a href="http://911truth.org/">911truth.org/</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Thursday, October 12 2006 Hello, South Park Fans! To those of you who already know that we don't know what happened on 9/11, you're definitely not alone--our Zogby poll in May found 45% of Americans want a new investigation because we know we were lied to! (Final report here). And for a long list of people within the government and military who also know, check out patriotsquestion911.com. If you're absolutely new to the issue, take a walk through these links and decide for yourself what's true. (Oh, and no one has been shot in the head for investigating 9/11 to date, in case you were wondering.) For a quick intro to some real information about these questions, we suggest you have a look at the following films online... read more Thursday, October 12 2006 South Park Episode Hits Mark For Toilet Humor, But Misses On 9/11 Skepticism October 12, 2006 by Bryan Sacks It took longer than expected, but Trey Parker and company have joined with the growing ranks of the opportunists who distort 9/11 skepticism for fun and profit (unlike the screeds by Alexander Cockburn, Matthew Rothschild and Matt Taibbi, at least the South Park episode had its humorous moments). They included the obligatory "the Jews did it" canard, and the focus taken was shallow and purposely exploitative. The underlying idea was: "the conspiracy theorists are retarded, because they believe the government was competent enough to pull off 9/11." read more Wednesday, October 11 2006 Kucinich on Preventing Disaster in Iran Rep. Dennis Kucinich has been drawing attention to the impending war on Iran. He has announced on his site (www.denniskucinich.us) a hearing being held today read more Tuesday, October 10 2006 Steps to take before, and on, Election Day A critically important message from one of democracy's most tenacious watchdogs. Miller does not mince words when it comes to the historic perfidy of the neo-conservative cabal running this country. He understands they will stop at nothing to ram through their plans for the US - unless, of course, they are stopped by a massive resistance the likes of which this country hasn't seen in 200 years. — Ed. Advice from Mark Crispin Miller (with 911truth.org editor's comments in italics) "Briefly, what's being done to prevent voter-machine fraud for 2006 and 2008. What can dedicated individuals do?" read more Tuesday, October 10 2006 Torture, Murder, Bush, Kissinger and The Mothers of the Disappeared in Argentina: America on the Brink of Horror October 11, 2006 This starkly realistic editorial from Buzzflash considers potential ramifications of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, reminding us of relatively recent South American history following a similarly tragic path. Given the many examples of the repercussions of unbridled power in just the last century of history, this editor asks, "What will it take for us to rise to the occasion, America? Must history repeat because we refuse to learn from the past?" The Center for Constitutional Rights has already filed litigation against parts of this legislation, on October 2, 2006. CCR Executive Director Vincent Warren said: "Last week, Congress voted to have the United States join the ranks of the nations of the world that have authorized indefinite detention without trial and torture without accountability. For over two hundred years, our Constitution has guaranteed that we would not sacrifice our democratic principles even in times of crisis. In this first challenge to the MCA, we demand that the Administration uphold the Constitution which has, and should continue to be, the pillar of living in a democratic society." This is but one example of resistance, and we encourage readers to be aware of and support every effort to stop the imminent threats of this constitutional crisis. Talk to your neighbors (how will we stand together if we don't even know each other?). Hold community meetings and inform others of what's going on. Put your money to work supporting truthtellers and organizations fighting for us--time to take every penny back from the war machine and the liars. Read. Think. Discuss. Act. Now is the time. read more Friday, October 6 2006 Rice OK'd Claim of 'Safe Air' After 9/11 This has not been a good couple of weeks for Condoleeza Rice. In addition to the story below, another appeared in the NY Post which, if accurate, makes her complicit in releasing "the air is safe to breathe" statements through EPA's then-Director, Christie Todd Whitman. Whitman is currently co-defendant, with Michael Leavitt, administrator of EPA, in "a class action lawsuit brought on behalf of residents, students, and workers in Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn". Some 70,000 people are sick as a result of the toxic air after 9/11. The actions of EPA head Christie Todd Whitman in declaring the air safe to breath have already been called "conscience-shocking" by a Federal Judge. Thousands of people are sick, and some have died--the first responders, the cleanup crews, those who went back to work and kids who went back to school, based on the government's safety assurances. Again we must ask... if members of this government were willing to knowingly cast aside the wellbeing of tens of thousands of people in favor of "competing priorities" such as opening Wall Street, what else could be possible? For much more information about this situation, visit 9/11 Environmental Action and WTC Environmental Organization. — Ed. NEW YORK POST October 6, 2007 By Susan Edelman, Heather Gilmore and Brad Hamilton September 24, 2006 -- Condoleezza Rice's office gave final approval to the infamous Environmental Protection Agency press releases days after 9/11 claiming the air around Ground Zero was "safe to breathe," internal documents show. Now Secretary of State, Rice was then head of the National Security Council - "the final decision maker" on EPA statements about lower Manhattan air quality, the documents say. read more <hr></blockquote> on edit: To follow up what dugoboy mentioned above about South Park's episode linking 9/11 truth to anti-semitism, that is a big discrediting theme used for a long time by CIA shills like Chip Berlet. The poison pill of 'right-wing anti-Jew kook' is dropped into the well of belief to keep people from drinking suppressed truths. See my thread showing that very tactic used against Jeff Wells and others by TheTruthSeeeker.co.uk -- <a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessageRange?topicID=6516.topic&start=1&stop=20">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...=1&stop=20</a> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 10/13/06 2:00 pm

by **Seamus OBlimey** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:27 pm

Just watched it on Youtube (posted on videos thread) and don't know what to make of it. Although it only deals with the truth of 911 on a superficial level it offers so many get out of jail free cards to the deniers. I can hear them now quoting punchlines every time I bring up facts, turning reasoned debate into ridicule.. "So you believe the South Park theory? Ha Ha!"

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:20 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I can hear them now quoting punchlines every time I bring up facts, turning reasoned debate into ridicule<hr></blockquote> South Park's punchline is already 'conspiracy-theorist' hostile. "They killed Kenny!"

by **Jimb0** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:42 am

The propaganda from the man is that the 911 truth and conspiracy movements are psyops of the 'enemy' to win hearts and minds to be sympathetic to the enemy cause. The other option posed by SP is interesting in terms of stability operations and low intensity conflict. As a domestic psyop, to identify and tag suspected 'domestic terrorists' for future processing. Either way, I believe the effect will be even greater polarization among the populace.

by **Dreams End** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:47 am

One of the first links that got me questioning the questioners. This is about a statement signed by a variety of people hosted on 911truth.org. of<a href="http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/911truthstatement.html">questionsquestions</a> One of the signers was Ray McGovern, so it is factually accurate to say that at least one officer of the CIA was part of that effort. What that actually means we've argued about here. I don't know who the folks are behind that site. John Gray was one of the funders behind 911truth.org as well as someone who funded infomercials for Barry Zwicker's 911 book. And THAT is a huge parapolitical mess. I don't know how much of the 911truth.org funding came from Gray but here are a few tidbits: Gray was in business with a company run by arms dealer-Iran/Contra "star', Adnon Kashoggi Gray was also a longtime associate of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi of Transcendental meditation fame. These are documented here: <a href="http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/johngraydossier.html">link</a> Hopsicker has also written about this stuff, but I found the above article to be better documented and more cautious in its approach. Here's the Hopsicker link. <a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/MC6812004.html">hopsicker</a> I was able to take this further but no time for links. For example, the Natural Law Party was a backer of Kucinich. And the lawyer for the NLP was none other than Daniel Sheehan who also worked in the Kucinich campaign. Sheehan moved from his work destroying slam dunk legal cases of political importance at the Christic insitute to working with the Disclosure Project, founded by a rather cultish Stephen Greer, who, you will not be surprised to learn, is ALSO hooked into the TM movement. Quite a happy family. I think you can fairly easily google these names in combinations and see that this is not really a dark secret. If there is any dispute of the above...maybe I'll have some time to run it down. This stuff is not neat and tidy. These convoluted connections do not point to some easily identifiable grand plan, unless you are already convinced that part of the elite agenda is the creation of a new sort of religion. But games are being played. Just to toss one last headspinning thing into all this in the spirit of the last paragraph, I learned on the above Hopsicker page (which rambles all over the place much like this post) that the famous "war of the world's " broadcast in 1938 was actually a psyops experiment by funded by the Rockefeller foundation. It's well documented...in fact there's an entire book about it. Rockefeller's abound in this Hopsicker piece...and it's worth noting that Lawrence Rockefeller funded all kinds of UFO research. SRI gets tossed into all this as well...which brings us to Scientology... those of you still looking for a black and white world won't be happy with much of all the above...but that's the way these things work...convoluted, hard to trace (intentionally) connections and unclear agendas...usually with more than one goal at a time.

by **anothershamus** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:21 pm

With the black tee shirt reading 911truth.org facing the audience all the time, I would hope that all the folks would see past the show's content and go directly to 911truth.org to find out what the questions that remain unanswered are. Are there enough people out there who want to know? How smart are people anyway? Why didn't more people go to the streets when the election was stolen? What will it take to moblize the population? For the answer to these and other questions keep watching South Park!

by **The Omega Man** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:23 pm

Actually for this to even make the radar of the show's creative team, exposes the level of impact the 9/11 Truth movement is having as a whole. That and the hastened legislation that illegitimately authorizes Bush to brand anyone a terrorist, terrorist sympathizer or enemy combatant who he feels opposes him, his rule or fascist agenda. The media brushes are already at work to paint bloggers, info-warriors, 9/11 Truth seekers and general believers in governement criminality as 5th columnists, anti-semites or worse. I think this was a sponsored hit piece to ridicule and isolate, with an unintended blowback of having curious watchers go to the websites and see for themselves. It was a tenuous psy-ops at best. Ask yourselves this... Cui Bono, Who benefits and to whose was this advantage? Matt and Trey? Examine the larger aspect in all of this, scope out its entirety. It's a lashing out at something that's causing the guilty party no end of consternation. They sleep every night worrying about the American masses blowback and go about constructing mechanisms of propaganda, blatantly unconstitutional legislation, illegal surveillance of the populace, media barrages and the like; all to futiley distance themselves from the scales of ultimate justice. They fear us the people throughout every waking moment and it's betrayed through the desperation of their actions.

by **dugoboy** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:18 pm

In a June, 1992 exclusive and published interview granted by President George H. W. Bush to Sarah McClendon, the grand dame of the White House press corps at the time: “George Bush, what will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra? ‘Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us.’ ” SCARED FOOLS!!! ___________________________________________ "Fascism finds root best in unreality and dysfunction." - Me "Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell "When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma GandhiEdited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 10/14/06 7:19 pm

by **judasdisney** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:16 am

For those hoping for heroism from Matt Stone & Trey Parker, simply rent their "Team America" to watch how they play both sides, too scared to attack Bush/Cheney directly but not afraid to ridicule Michael Moore.

by **anothershamus** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:25 am

Are they too scared or are they flying under the radar? The Colbert Report is really good if you know how to watch the show. Interestingly enough there are a LOT of repubs. that don't seem to get the Colbert Report and think it is for real. Are we too stupid for SATIRE or what? We as a people, "A person is smart, people are stupid." K from MIB. How right he is.

by **wordspeak** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:59 pm

FYI, Dreams End, I was part of the creation of 911truth.org, and while John Gray did give $- and the material on John Gray is right, and I think he was an infiltrator in the movement- 911truth.org was a broad-based effort of a lot of the more mainstream 9/11 truth activists at the time, coming out of the first 9/11 truth conference in San Francisco.

by **Dreams End** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:17 pm

That's actually good to know, wordspeak. There's some weird TM role in all this. It's awfully murky.

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