suspected FBI disrupter to run as Green

[proldic]

"Elaine Brown, former chair of the Oakland-based Black Panther Party, is running for mayor of Brunswick, GA. She first publicly announced her intentions at this spring's Chesepeake Campaign School at Howard University in Washington D.C....Since returning in 1996 from living in France, Brown has wasted no time reconnecting with the....majority Black and economically depressed community sitting on the midst of a gold mine that it does not profit from....(Brown's registration as a Green) highlighted....the viability of the Greens to attract a qualified and highly-visible candidate....(and) should catapult the Green Part of the US (GP-US) to another level"<br>- Independent Political News Summer '05, Green Pages Summer '05 (www.gp.ord/greenpages/)<br><br><br>"...Elaine Brown, widely suspected among former party members of having been a police agent."<br>- pg. 362, The Cointelpro Papers by Churchill/Vander Wall, (1990 South End Press) <br> <p></p><i></i>

[glubglubglub]

I would wager that by '08 rolls around the receptivity towards a third party will be at an all time high (if it's not yet there by '06) and as the Greens are the most-developed of the third parties infiltrating them is probably on the agenda somewhere. <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

In CT, 1/2 the Greens think their chairperson, a state police dispatcher, is a disruptive cointelpro agent. <br>Ross Perot and the Reform party was a horrible trick played on millions of decent people. Nowadays I think Nader has gotten kind of weird, or is it the truth he was crypto from the get-go? That could be a discussion onto itself. Do you think there's a danger in putting energy into supporting 3rd parties on the state and national level? Some people say electoral politics is a total waste of time. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

I don't want to start another debate right now. I will say that the infiltration of third parties is a common tactic. I was not a big Perot fan, but the Reform Party was completely taken over by the New Alliance Party...i.e. Lenora Fulani backed in the shadows by Fred Newman. I knew people in the Peace and Freedom Party in California who had this same problem with them back in 1988. They actually bussed in their members from New York the PAFP state convention in California. They did a huge number on the Reform Party...with tactics which are quite familiar. I've posted about them elsewhere and you can google them up pretty easily. One thing to note is that Lenora Fulani ran as an independent candidate for Pres and got on all 50 state ballots...pretty impressive for such a small group with no real base to speak of, eh?<br><br>I don't know what to make of Nader. <br><br>As for third party politics...I think it can only have success if it is done seriously and will have to concentrate on local races. I think tactical alliances with Dems are fine, but I think the Greens pretty much let the Dems dictate the terms...it is SUPPOSED to be the other way around...we will support you IF....<br><br>Now, an FBI disruptor sounds more like someone trying to destroy the Green party. Naturally, the correct tactic, if you want to manipulate third parties, if you are Republican, is to help them grow and syphon votes from the Dems. This seemed to happen with Nader, though he didn't syphon any votes this last go round. So whose interest the disruptor is serving, I can't say. Sure sounds a lot like the Fulani business though. <p></p><i></i>

[albion]

The co-author of "The COINTEL Papers" has himself been accused of being an infiltrator:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If Churchill’s indigenism is the radical threat he says it is, why does the government pay him to propagate it? When Churchill first surfaces, he is killing indigenous people for the U.S. Government. Next he is a member of the agent-ridden Weatherman SDS; then a staff writer for Soldier of Fortune; and then a sachem in the agent-riddled American Indian Movement. Next, notwithstanding this unsavory background, he works as a bureaucrat for a state university, from which gig he is bootstrapped into a tenure-track faculty position for which he has no qualifications, and soon he is tenured. His noisy presence in the Amerindian nationalist movement helps to splinter it. For Churchill, the test of indigenist orthodoxy is simple: you pass it if – but only for so long as – you promote Churchill’s career. Thus, as recently as 1992 it was politically incorrect to disagree with the International Indian Treaty Council (137), but now that these bona fide Indians have had the temerity to criticize Professor Churchill, by 1994 they are "hang-around-the-forts, sell-outs and ‘nickel’ Indians . . . " Is Churchill, as many suspect, a police agent? Nobody’s said it better than Churchill himself: "You don’t have to be a cop to do a cop’s work."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.pirateballerina.com/images/bobblack.html">www.pirateballerina.com/i...black.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>& around and round we go... <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

I know, I know, I hoped nobody would bring that up at this point, because I don't have time. I really want to start talking about this stuff. This goes very very deep. 3 things: <br>1) My knowledge of those accusations against Brown goes back before that book. Personally, I think she is either a] CIA/FBI or b] a totally insane and irresposible criminal or c] both. (If history shows us anything, probably c). <br>Also it's worth noting that she rests at the shriveled heart of David Horowitz, right next to Betty Van Patter. <br>2) Since his "little Eichmanns" comment, it's easy to see that Churchill is wack, no doubt. But what's most interesting to note is the huge promotion by South End of his book "Marxism & Native Americans", that exploited a wedge existing before the balck hills conference between the "communist" left and AIM. Interesting to note the role of obvious hacks the RCP (Chairman Avakian sayz..)<br>in playing the whipping boy. <br>3) Drum roll please......guess who is also a co-author?<br>None other than Chip "John Foster" Berlet, billed as an expert on spooks. <br>So is John Trudell. <p></p><i></i>

[robertdreed]

There's some relevant material on Elaine Brown in Robin Morgan's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Demon Lover: The Roots Of Terrorism </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. I think that book is essential reading. I'm somewhat mystified that it isn't on my bookshelf. <br><br>And of course, David Horowitz excoriates Brown in his books <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Destructive Generation</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Radical Son</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. I think that some of the material on the Black Panthers in those books is highly suspect- to say the least. But not the material on Elaine Brown, so much...I think that's been backed up by other sources, including other Panthers.<br><br> I think David "Machiavellian Political Warfare" Horowitz has forfeited any claim on trustworthiness. But facts are facts, wherever they may happen to turn up. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 7/24/05 10:17 pm<br></i>

[proldic]

I noticed that since she got back from France, she has been on a national speaking tour of mainly liberal colleges, with radio psa's and good promo. <p></p><i></i>

[robertdreed]

That's where good press agentry will get you ;^)<br><br>I presume that there's a mike open at the end of the lecture, for questions.<br><br>Ah, walk-on-eggs PC Leftism...and then there's its "antithesis", Circular Firing Squad PC Leftism ( considering the discussion of "who's a Left Gatekeeper", are there any other kinds? )<br><br><br>I can't be a Leftist. Too many individualistic ego trippers arguing over who's more selflessly altruistic...and who has the most acute vision of the Objective Conditions. And all competitors are tools of the Conspiracy. etc., etc.<br><br>That's Leftism, American style, circa 2005ce. Hey, it could be worse. <br> <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

Just curious...<br><br>Has anyone here ever encountered rumors that feminist Ti-Grace Atkinson was COINTELPRO? There are things that lead me to think yes and some that lead me to think no. <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

"That's Leftism, American style, circa 2005ce. Hey, it could be worse."<br><br>I hear you there. Just take a look at the "conspiracy crowd". Like on that board RI. <br> <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

Re: speaking tour<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> "That's Leftism, American style, circa 2005ce. Hey, it could be worse."<br><br>I hear you there. Just take a look at the "conspiracy crowd". Like on that board RI. <br> <p></p><i></i>

[robertdreed]

do ya think you're improvin' things any? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 7/27/05 7:20 pm<br></i>