Four star US general relieved of duties

by **Peachtree Pam** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:07 am

On Fintan Dunne's audio today a link was mentioned between Jones, who takes over from Byrnes and the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal. The Times today suggests that Byrnes was fired "in an apparent attempt to reaffirm the American military's high moral standards". Pardon me while I laugh. ------------ Was Jones job to make sure higher ranking officers were exonerated? This is from Amnesty site: <a href="http://www.amnestyusa.org/stoptorture/agfactsheet.html">www.amnestyusa.org/stopto...sheet.html</a> (snip) The Fay / Jones Report – An internal army report led by Major General George R. Fay and Lieutenant General Anthony R. Jones examining the role of military intelligence forces at Abu Ghraib. The investigation did not examine the role of officers higher than Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez and none of the civilian leadership. (August 25, 2004) (snip) Results One year later, where does the United States stand on investigations and accountability for detainee abuse? - 400 – Number of specific recommendations for improvements in detainee operations resulting from various reports and investigations as of March 10, 2005. - 370 - Number of criminal investigations addressing allegations of detainee mistreatment completed according to Secretary Rumsfeld. - 140 – Number of allegations against military members that have been addressed in courts-martial, non-judicial punishment, and other adverse administrative action, according to a US Army news release dated June 2, 2005. - 10 years – Longest sentence any soldier has received for assault and maltreatment of detainees. - 27 – Number of detainee deaths in custody ruled a homicide by the Army Criminal Investigation Command as of March 25, 2005. - 3 years – Longest sentence any soldier has received for the death of a detainee in custody. - 0 – Number of high-level military or civilian leaders held accountable for policies or practices that lead to abuse of detainees and deaths in custody. ------------------------- <a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Aug2004/d20040825fay.pdf">www.defenselink.mil/news/...825fay.pdf</a> EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Investigation of Intelligence Activities At Abu Ghraib Background This investigation was ordered initially by LTG Ricardo S. Sanchez, Commander, Combined Joint Task Force Seven (CJTF-7). LTG Sanchez appointed MG George R. Fay as investigating officer under the provisions of Army Regulation 381-10, Procedure15. MG Fay was appointed to investigate allegations that members of the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade (205 MI BDE) were involved in detainee abuse at the Abu Ghraib Detention Facility. Specifically, MG Fay was to determine whether 205 MI BDE personnel requested, encouraged, condoned, or solicited Military Police (MP) personnel to abuse detainees and whether MI personnel comported with established interrogation procedures and applicable laws and regulations. On 16 June 2004, Acting Secretary of the Army R. L. Brownlee appointed General Paul J. Kern, Commander, US Army Materiel Command (AMC), as the new Procedure 15 appointing authority. On 25 June 2004, GEN Kern appointed LTG Anthony R. Jones, Deputy Commanding General, US Army Training and Doctrine Command, as an additional Procedure 15 investigating officer. MG Fay was retained as an investigating officer. Without reinvestigating areas reviewed by MG Fay, LTG Jones was specifically directed to focus on whether organizations or personnel higher than the 205th MI BDE chain of command, or events and circumstances outside of the 205th MI Brigade, were involved, directly or indirectly, in the questionable activities regarding alleged detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib prison. -------------- <a href="http://www.crimesofwar.org/news-detainees.html">www.crimesofwar.org/news-detainees.html</a> U.S. Army Clears Senior Officers of Responsibility for Detainee Abuse By Anthony Dworkin According to several news reports, the U.S. Army's Inspector General has cleared four senior Army officers of responsibility for the abuses against detainees carried out in Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. The investigation concluded that the officers -- including Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the senior commander in Iraq from June 2003 -- should not be held liable for any wrongdoing or failure of leadership, according to comments by officials on Friday April 21. The Inspector General's investigation, which followed a request from the Senate Armed Services Committee last September, was intended to be the Army's final judgement on whether senior officers should be held accountable for the abuses in Abu Ghraib. Earlier investigations -- including the Army investigation headed by Lt. Gen. Anthony R. Jones and Maj. Gen. George R. Fay and the independent Schlesinger investigation -- did not have the power to recommend disciplinary action. (snip) Apart from Lt. Gen. Sanchez, the other officers who have been cleared by the Inspector General -- all key members of Sanchez' team in the autumn of 2003 when the worst abuses occurred -- are Sanchez' deputy, Maj. Gen. Walter Wojdakowski, intelligence officer Maj. Gen. Barbara Fast and legal officer Col. Marc Warren. -------------- <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/politics/10general.html">www.nytimes.com/2005/08/1...neral.html</a> (snip) Lt. Gen. Anthony R. Jones, who last year helped oversee an inquiry into detainee abuse in Iraq by American military intelligence personnel, has been named acting head of the command, Army officials said Tuesday. In April, Lt. Gen. William Wallace was nominated to be the new permanent commander, but the Senate has not yet confirmed his promotion to the four-star job.

by **dbeach** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:11 pm

interesting read.. <a href="http://www.cloakanddagger.de/">www.cloakanddagger.de/</a> CNN "Situation Room" CREATED BY BUSH-CRIMINALS INSIDE THE PENTAGON! Situation Room is classic military style thinking created by generals loyal to Dictator Bush to protect them against news of a revolt by Generals loyal to the U.S. Constitution from getting to the Public. This is just some of what Wolf Blitzer is covering up. click <a href="http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index798.htm">www.whatdoesitmean.com/index798.htm</a> US Military Destroys Bomb Directed Against Chicago as Top Pentagon Doctor Killed In Helicopter Shoot-Down and US Secret Service Member Killed as United States Coup Continues By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers Numerous troubling reports from Russian Intelligence Analysts suggest that the Coup attempt currently underway in the United States is spiraling out of control and may soon break into open, and public, hostilities vying for control over the American Government. Particularly troubling is one report detailing an American Air Force F-16 attack upon a bomb laden truck bound for the American City of Chicago but destroyed before it could reach its intended target and as we can read an American ‘sanitized’ version of this as reported by the Associated Press News Service in their article titled "Truck ‘vaporized’ when cargo explodes" and which says; "A truck carrying 35,500 pounds of explosives crashed and exploded Wednesday, leaving a huge crater in a Utah highway and injuring at least four people. The driver was able to get out and warn other motorists away before the truck exploded. But a passenger in the truck cab and other motorists were rushed to hospitals with injuries, Utah Highway Patrol Sgt. Todd Royce said." According to Russian Military Analysts this American F-16 attack upon this massive truck bomb included Saudi Arabian F-16’s which arrived yesterday in the United States, and as we can read as reported by the F-16.Net News Service in their article titled "Saudi Arabia joins Red Flag exercise for first time in 25 years" and which says, "For the first time in 25 years, Saudi Arabia joins in the Red Flag exercise at Nellis Air Force Base." Russian Intelligence Analysts are speculating that the American President had requested these Saudi Arabian F-16 Fighters during his secret meeting this week with the Saudi Rulers (and which we had previously reported on in our August 8th report titled "Bush Flees United States for Saudi Arabia as Israel Accelerates Attack Timetable in Continuing Secret War with America, US Prepares For Martial Law") as their remains mistrust between President Bush and certain elements with the American Military Establishment.

by **LibertyorDeath** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:58 pm

Yes I read about this at DU "as reported by the Associated Press News Service in their article titled "Truck ‘vaporized’ when cargo explodes" and which says; "A truck carrying 35,500 pounds of explosives crashed and exploded Wednesday, leaving a huge crater in a Utah highway and injuring at least four people. The driver was able to get out and warn other motorists away before the truck exploded. But a passenger in the truck cab and other motorists were rushed to hospitals with injuries, Utah Highway Patrol Sgt. Todd Royce said." "The driver was able to get out and warn other motorists" This is interesting the driver was able to get out. He had a warning of some kind What ? how did he know it was gonna blow??? and tell me a truck carrying carrying 35,500 pounds of explosives is not roaming America's highways unescorted by military or law enforcement ??? I would really like to know more about this truck.

by **dbeach** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:17 pm

LOD This one is confusing..like they extract info from MM sorces..kinda like spys I guess..Confusung..I only know the MM is gonna protect their boy/god/king ..lil fuhrer til the end PLEASE flash the baby bush fuhreer photo MAKES ME wanna twist and shout and work it on out.. Who was the brave soul that posted this at DU??

by **Starman** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:15 am

IMHO, Sorcha Faal has like zero credibility with me anymore -- the heavy-handed, blatant attempts to weave a sensationalistic, conspiracy-laden espionage plot exploiting every possibly-intriguing latest news development is too-evident to be believed. Following sketchy details from Associated Press suggests this was some kind of overturn accident. There's no reason why this could plausably be some kind of fighter missile-strike -- suggesting some Saudi connection is crazier still. Dontcha think a special-ops team could have disabled or hijacked this truck, or kidnapped the driver, or any of a dozen different scenarios if the Octopus/Shadow Gummint wanted, and done it with no-bother, no-fuss? I suppose there's a very small possibility this could have been caused by a self-described militant-Patriot or terrorist -- but if it was a REAL terrorist event I'd expect it'll never be reported as such. Im kinda surprised every industrial accident isn't being claimed as 'terrorist attacks' tho -- like the recent Texas oil-plastics products-refinery fire. Jeez, just imagine how those incidents could be spun to ramp-up fear and terror? I'm sure there are hundreds of convenient patsies that could easily be framed by our illustrious Secret Agent types -- unless there are too many security gaps and potentially double-agent Patriot types within the ranks of Special Ops who'd leak such false-flag fudging-of-facts -- or if there was the perception of risk of disclosure by someone within the military planning system. Anyway, such speculation can't be readily proven so there's not too much benefit in putting too much weight on it. Like most SF posts, these claims are hardly even worth speculation. IMHO, of course. Starman <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C165348%2C00.html">www.foxnews.com/story/0%2...%2C00.html</a> Truck Carrying Explosives Blows Up in Utah Wednesday, August 10, 2005 SALT LAKE CITY — A tractor-trailer carrying 35,500 pounds of explosives overturned and exploded Wednesday, injuring four people and leaving a huge crater on Utah Highway 6 in Spanish Fork Canyon. A motorist and a passenger in the truck's cab were among those transported to hospitals immediately after the 1:54 p.m. accident, Utah Highway Patrol Sgt. Todd Royce said. LDS Hospital spokesman Jess Gomez said two person in critical condition were taken by medical helicopter to Utah Valley Regional Medical Center (search) in Provo. A third was brought in by ambulance in satisfactory condition. A fourth person was transported by helicopter to University of Utah Hospital, spokesman Chris Nelson said. The tractor-trailer driver was able to get out of his truck and warn other motorists away from the truck before the explosion. It was not immediately known if the driver was hurt. The canyon about 60 miles south of Salt Lake City (search) was closed in both directions. It was unclear how the accident occurred, Royce said. He said the truck was "pretty much vaporized" in the explosion and that that both lanes of the highway had been gutted by the blast. The accident happened in an area about 20 miles east of the mouth of the canyon known as the Red Narrows. Television coverage of the accident scene shows a large crater in the road and damage to nearby rail lines. Several small fires in the hills above the accident scene were believed to have been triggered by flying debris. The rig with a 6-foot trailer from R&R Trucking of Missouri had just left commercial explosives maker Ensign-Bickford (search) at the mouth of Spanish Fork Canyon when the accident happened. The truck was headed to Oklahoma, company officials said. They wouldn't say what type of explosives the truck was carrying. Hal Jaussi, an Ensign-Bickman manager, said the trucking company "met federal regulations for transporting explosives." Trucking company controller Doug Greek said the company couldn't comment on the accident because they were "still trying to investigate everything that's happened." "It's just crazy," Greek said.

by **dbeach** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:31 am

Sorcha plays to her Russki audince..interesting cuz her name is not Russin Wonder if she is KGB asset..many in MM press and also alternate media on net are CIA FBI USN assets..thats operation mockinbird or something?? one scenario..Putin is Russian Orthodox..maybe he sees through the satanic bush cabals and is doing a lil cover for some of his ole pals in the Pentagon..the ones who hate bush ect.. Putin the former KGB chief in Berlin has lots of dirt and facts...you can bet on that..Putin is more of a fried to the US citizens that don't support bush and time will tell. DISINFO is rampant the 8/17 nuke scenario is more war games to be used as cover ofr the nuke attack agianst the USA DU has big thread goin about 8/17 mock nuke attack 9/11 and 7/7 each had mock attacks..???

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