Michael Parenti: Amy Goodman Altered DN Transcript

[proldic]

Good to hear you bought the book DE<br>In light of that, do you think the interview overhyped it? <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

I haven't read much yet. It's in an unusual format: VERY SHORT "letter" that lays out his position and then appendices to support that position. I think his analysis as laid out in the letter seems very good...hence the quote. I think it may not go far enough, as I'm really convinced of the nazi/fascist aspect of CIA and lots of these plots, but that doesn't hurt his case. Anyway, I'll get further in it tonight. That quote alone really helped me see how this dynamic of denial can work and made me feel less...you know....weird. <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

curious on your opinion about the interview specifically <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

" If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all ", eh? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

Well, I haven't gone back to reread the interview and I'm now confusing content from the book with the interview. Obviously, I liked the interview or I wouldn't have gotten the book.<br><br>The book really lays out the whole thing so that the only thing you can really say is "duh"! It just seems too self evident. Why, for example, would the Warren commission censor Jackie Kennedy's description of the wounds on her husband as "national security"? <br><br>The book is worth the price I paid just for Fidel Castro's analysis of the assassination. By the NEXT DAY, with just mainstream press reports, he put together the outlines of the underlying truth still being obfuscated today. A classic lesson in "How to Read a Newspaper." <br><br>Fidel was capable of the nuance of thinking that seems so hard for our media (deliberately hard, no doubt.) Because he felt that the assassination of Kennedy meant things were going to take a turn for the worse, didn't mean he thought Kennedy was anything but the cold warrior he was. HOWEVER, Castro saw a real power struggle between rightwing, military/industrial types and more moderate state department types. Both hated Cuba and wanted to destroy it, but the assassination of the latter by the former meant things would only get worse. And, they did.<br><br>so, sorry not to respond to your questions but I'm enjoying the book, which I'm pretty sure treats the exact same themes as the interview. <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

More was seeking technical input, from a good writer.<br>I know it's long. I've been sitting on it for a few years.<br><br>When I asked him about Schotz, John Judge said <br>"He's cranky, but that book is the work of a genius." <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

Geez, I guess I didn't get that YOU had written it. I'll have to go back and reread it with that in mind. I would say that, given that I've only bought two books this year due to reading such an interview, and that book was one of them, that the interview is effective.<br><br>The problem for such a piece is where to get it published. The book is 9 years old and unless he has a new book coming out or you can tie it into some current event, it will be hard to find someone to print it. I'll go reread it, but obviously the interview had its intended effect.<br><br>Edit: Do you have a link to the original post. EZ board search gives me no hits for Schotz. I don't remember the thread name or even if it was on this board or number one. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dreamsend@rigorousintuition>Dreams End</A> at: 8/30/05 12:13 pm<br></i>

[proldic]

How incredibly<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> intense</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that interview was for me at the time. I mean like a spiritual experience man. <br><br>It was way more than me or him going on. Electrical. And totally out of the blue. I was just getting into processing our deeper post-9/11 existence, I wasn't interviewing people then, or writing too much, just working, combined with local politics and 9/11-related activism, promoting Ruppert events, drug policy reform. <br><br>This old lefty entrepreneur and I got to talking conspiracy and gatekeepers, and he dug around, and was like "I've been waiting for someone like you", and gave me his copy.<br><br>After I read it, I was so blown away I <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>had</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> to talk to the author. So I went out and bought a $20 Radio Shack phone recorder hookup, tracked him down, and the rest is history. Books move me, but this was different. That book and the discussion I had with Schotz changed my life.<br><br>And check out Phil Berrigan dissin' Chomsky -- saying it's not hard to take him out of his depth.<br><br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

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[Watchful Citizen]

Amy Goodman did very brave coverage of the US coup in Haiti, even flying to the Central African Republic to attend Aristide on his flight out of there after his kidnapping by the US and I find almost all her coverage to be relevent and necessary to exposing fascism. <br><br>So I value her work despite some omissions.<br><br>But...<br><br>I was floored when Amy had 'New Pearl Harbor' author David Ray Griffin on her show to talk about 9/11 AND allowed COINTELPRO fake leftie Chip Berlet to be the other guest who chopped Griffin to pieces on the air.<br><br>Hmm. Amy seems to have a truth ceiling set lower than mine.<br>I find it hard to believe she doesn't know Chip Berlet's role as a defensive block for the CIA in left wing media.<br><br>Chip warns against "conspiracism," just as the US State Department does here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jul/27-595713.html">usinfo.state.gov/media/Ar...95713.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>>snip<<br><br>You Are In: USINFO > Resource Tools > Identifying<br>Misinformation<br>         <br>How to Identify Misinformation<br><br>How can a journalist or a news consumer tell if a<br>story is true or false? There are no exact rules, but<br>the following clues can help indicate if a story or<br>allegation is true.<br><br> * Does the story fit the pattern of a conspiracy<br>theory?<br> * Does the story fit the pattern of an “urban<br>legend?”<br> * Does the story contain a shocking revelation<br>about a highly controversial issue?<br> * Is the source trustworthy?<br> * What does further research tell you?<br><br>Does the story fit the pattern of a conspiracy theory?<br><br>Does the story claim that vast, powerful, evil forces<br>are secretly manipulating events? If so, this fits<br>the profile of a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy<br>theories are rarely true, even though they have great<br>appeal and are often widely believed. In reality,<br>events usually have much less exciting explanations. <br><br>The U.S. military or intelligence community is a<br>favorite villain in many conspiracy theories. <br><br>>snip< <p></p><i></i>