Abramoff pere slams Clooney "obsene" joke

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Abramoff pere slams Clooney "obsene" joke

Postby emad » Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:28 pm

George, you don't know Jack, says Abramoff's father<br>By Nicholas Wapshott in New York<br>(Filed: 22/01/2006)<br><br>The actor George Clooney has come under attack from the father of Jack Abramoff, the Washington lobbyist facing jail over influence-peddling charges, after making an "obscene" joke about his son's name.<br><br>In a crack delivered while accepting the best actor prize at the Golden Globes film awards in Beverly Hills last week, Clooney, an outspoken Democrat, made fun of Abramoff's father and mother for picking the name Jack.<br><br> <br>George Clooney: 'No wonder that guy is screwed up' <br>"Who would name their kid Jack with the last word '-off ' at the end of your last name?" he asked. "No wonder that guy is screwed up."<br><br>The remarks, made in front of an audience at the Beverly Hilton and broadcast to 19 million television viewers worldwide, infuriated Abramoff's father Frank, 78, who was watching the show with his family at his home in Palm Springs, California.<br><br>In an open letter to his local newspaper, he launched a strong attack on both Clooney and the wider Hollywood establishment - generally seen by America's Right as a bastion of naive, Left-wing liberalism.<br><br>"Oh, how far Hollywood has fallen," said his letter to the Desert Sun. "Your glib and ridiculous attack on my son, Jack, coupled with your obscene query as to the choice his mother and I made in naming him brought shame and dishonour on you and your profession."<br><br>Mr Abramoff added that on hearing Clooney's remarks, his 12-year-old granddaughter - one of his son's five children - burst into tears. "Are you proud of that?" he asked. "One wonders how your father would respond, were the roles reversed."<br><br>He went on to explain that Jack was his own father's name, telling Mr Clooney: "You decided to take a gratuitous slap at my son, my family and even my dear departed father. Is this the tradition of Gable, Bogart, Pacino and Burton? Are you the heir to the dignity and greatness of Hollywood's past, or more likely a portent to a depressing and horrific future?"<br><br>Clooney, 44, has already come under attack from Republicans after using his recent films to broadcast an increasingly overt message about America's political climate.<br><br>He won his best actor Golden Globe for playing a CIA operative in the political thriller Syriana, which has attracted criticism from Republicans for showing America's enemies in a sympathetic light.<br><br>His previous film, Good Night and Good Luck, a biography of the broadcaster Ed Murrow, also had a political theme, reviving memories of McCarthy's witch-hunt against "Communists" in Hollywood in the 1950.<br><br>His attack on Abramoff could not have come at a more sensitive time in Republican circles. The lobbyist, who counted several senior party figures among his associates, pleaded guilty on January 3 to fraud, tax evasion and illegally influencing lawmakers by showering them with gifts, money and free holidays. In return for a reduced sentence he has agreed to co-operate with a federal inquiry that could focus on as many as 20 members of Congress and become the worst ethics scandal on Capital Hill in years.<br><br>Clooney has so far ignored Frank Abramoff's protest, but his own father, the former television news journalist Nick Clooney, has weighed in robustly on his behalf. "I understand what it is like to have one's son criticised in a very public way," Mr Clooney Snr, who lives in Kentucky, told a Desert Sun reporter.<br><br>"It's very painful and it's very difficult. The difference here, and it must be said, is Mr Abramoff's son, instead of pursing some positive efforts to do what he hoped would change the climate of American politics, has confessed and has been convicted by that confession of subverting the political process."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/01/22/wcloon22.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/01/22/ixworld.html">www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...world.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Abramoff pere slams Clooney "obsene" joke

Postby marykmusic » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:16 pm

When one does something ridiculous, and confesses to same, ridicule WILL be forthcoming. If it had been said by Letterman, or Leno, perhaps the grandchildren wouldn't have been watching... but these days 12-year-olds understand quite clearly what is being joked about here. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Abramoff pere slams Clooney "obsene" joke

Postby sunny » Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:40 pm

What is obscene is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>raising</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> a son like Jack Abramoff, not <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>naming</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> him. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Abramoff pere slams Clooney "obsene" joke

Postby manxkat » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:03 pm

Clooney's remarks were juvenile, even though Abramoff <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>is</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> scum. Those kinds of childish tactics really aren't very useful, in my opinion. Why stoop to the level of O'Reilly and Limbaugh? This doesn't reflect well on Clooney.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Abramoff pere slams Clooney "obsene" joke

Postby StarmanSkye » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:51 pm

Yeah, I agree -- Clooney's remarks were juvenile, a cheap-shot playing right-to the insular self-righteous conceit of the hardline rightwing that feigns ignorance of the puerile mocking belligerence of its own ideological mouthpieces.<br><br>But Pere Abramoff's outrage IS absurd, a hysterical misdirection performance attempting to transfer shame from Jack jr. to Clooney, casting his son and the family 'name' as a victim of Hollywood liberalism. His son is above-all a contemptuous thug, willing accomplice to the right's need for a loyal cadre of avaricious 'true-believer' expendable morally-ambiguous bagman pimping favours for the kleptocracy.<br><br>Despite his reversion here to a Limbaugh/O'Reilly-type bullyboy tactic, I respect the hell out of Clooney for his taking a very-public oppositional stance that challenges public ambivalence, moral hypocrisy and indulgent simplemindness, reflecting Clooney's very astute, principled peace-and-justice beliefs and a certain courage for taking the heat in daring to draw attention to the Emperor's pathological state of undress.<br><br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Abramoff pere slams Clooney "obsene" joke

Postby manxkat » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:05 pm

Well put, Starman. I respect Clooney as well, for the very reasons you stated, but this kind of sophomoric cheap-shot is better left to others (comedians, late-night talk shows, Jon Stewart, etc). I think it chips away at Clooney's credibility -- but, since this kind of banter is so commonplace in Amerika, it probably doesn't even matter. But, I do think it has zero effectiveness in changing people's minds. What I want to hear, instead, is a loud and thunderous scream of anger from Clooney (and anybody else in the limelight who is outraged). But that would probably just backfire like the Dean Scream (which, incidentally, I didn't find offensive or embarassing in the least). <p></p><i></i>
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Clooney-

Postby lilorphant » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:38 am

How many of us got ribbed in school for having names that only a perv could make into an obscenity? <br><br>It was a JOKE, who cares, move on, these people go into the limelight, they should expect to be roasted.<br><br>And basically, JACK grew up to be a crook, so too f-ing bad. <p></p><i></i>
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And basically, JACK grew up to be a crook,

Postby * » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:07 am

<br><br> looks like it was a skill nurtured in the bosom of his family:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=61603&forum=7">Is News Media Lazy, Incurious, Or Intentionally Silent on Abramoff's Father?</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: And basically, JACK grew up to be a crook,

Postby havanagila » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:43 am

i was going to say that his father's intervention seems like somebody feeling guilty for what happened to his son. and there you go...its precisely the case.<br>These people get their kids into crime and send them to take the heat. (see _- Ariel Sharon, and his son Omri now standing trial). <p></p><i></i>
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Re: And basically, JACK grew up to be a crook,

Postby dbeach » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:45 pm

crude remarks<br><br>like father like son is true of many .<br><br>sam bush armed the kasier<br>prescott bush armed hitler<br>GHW Bush armed well many people plus pushed dope<br>GW Bush began 3 wars and is working on #4 Iran<br><br>Jollywood in and of itself is part of the problem.<br><br>few really care about the USA and the middle class..<br><br>more elites with overstuffed wallets and egos to match<br><br>DC Pols like to beat up on Hollywood but its all aprt of the game.. <p></p><i></i>
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SOMEONE should DNA-test Poppy and Jack Abramoff.

Postby emad » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:02 pm

And publish the results. <p></p><i></i>
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