Cheney shoots 78-year old man

by **StarmanSkye** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:37 am

I've been waiting for somebody to conduct something like the following ballistic test, after so many hunters and experienced firearm enthusiasts and experts have written in to numerous blogs and forums that Cheney's story isn't believeable. Scientific Proof Cheney's Shooting Story is a Lie: <a href="http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/cheney_shooting_scientific_proof.htm">www.infowars.com/articles..._proof.htm</a> Alex Jones' article and video link on Infowars, he conducts a well-controlled ballistic test simulating the Cheney/Whittington shooting, conclusively establishing that Cheney shot Whittington at 15-18 feet, ie. Cheney lied re: the distance and, by implication, the circumstances of the accident. And: More suspicious links and secret goings-on re: neocon crime-family racketeering and their Texas Playboy connections: Below info gleaned from Democratic Underground comments: The other woman who was present when Cheney shot Whittington was Pamela Pitzer Willeford. <a href="http://www.expendableelite.com/UW_archives/UW_archive.0..">www.expendableelite.com/U...rchive.0..</a> Is it possible that Pamela Willeford's father was one Lt Cl. William Pitzer who was apparently (some claim) assassinated by the CIA as a result of the Kennedy Assination? Whittington's wife is sister to James Baker -- THE James Baker, Bush Gang consigliore aka 'The Janitor' sent in to clean-up Bush messes. He flew into Florida when it looked like Shrub might be losing--back in 2000. Last year, a big explosion at the BP Refinery down in Texas City killed 15 & injured 170. The refinery has had safety problems for years & regulations (such as they are in Texas) were definitely ignored before the event. Who is in charge of the "Independent Safety Review Panel"? James Baker III! (Of course, Baker & Botts represents BP--but he said he sold all his stock!) www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=2012968&content... Comparing the janitors of the world to Baker is an insult to the janitors. They do more valuable work & get paid much less. MUCH less. Baker was also Sec. of State under Bush 41 and who apparently instructed Ambassadir April Glaspie to tell Saddam Hussein that the US would not interfere with Iraq's territorial dispute with Kuwait -- the classic set-up that precipitated the Gulf War and the brutal sanctions and the present invasion-occupation. James Baker: In 1990, while Baker was Secretary of State under Bush, Saddam met with US Ambassador April Glaspie before attacking Kuwait, and specifically asked Glaspie ... www.nndb.com/people/331/000023262/ Here is a great page to re-acquaint yourself with James A. Baker III: <a href="http://www.hereinreality.com/baker.html">www.hereinreality.com/baker.html</a> * -- Early Christmas for James Baker III. All year the elves at his law firm, Baker Botts of Texas, have been working day and night to prevent the families of the victims of the September 11 attack from seeking information from Saudi Arabia on the Kingdom's funding of Al Qaeda fronts. It's tough work, but this week came the payoff when President Bush appointed Baker Botts' senior partner to "restructure" the debts of the nation of Iraq. And who will net the big bucks under Jim Baker's plan? Answer: his client, Saudi Arabia, which claims $30.7 billion due from Iraq (plus $12 billion in "reparations" from the First Gulf war). www.alternet.org/story/17343/ James Baker III might not be linked to the Cheney Shooting a 78 Year Old Man In the Face Incident. But it's always fun to review Baker's "interesting" past. "America's new Secretary of State, James Baker III, had an upbringing that would be painfully familiar to a survivor of an old-style English public school. His father, James Baker II, used to douse his only son with cold water if he slept past 7a.m..... Baker's work habits today -- like Margaret Thatcher, he lives and breathes his job -- are a product of his father's hard-driving style; his younger sister is said to have been so unhinged by the prodding that she became "unhinged" and spent three decades in and out of mental homes." 'Profile of James Baker', Sunday Times, 26 ii 1989. <a href="http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:ILDHNZ7YaAAJ:www.cycad.com/cgi-bin/Brand/quotes/q05.html%3Fnochoice%3Dy+James+A.+Baker+III+siblings&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=76">72.14.207.104/search?q=ca...clnk&cd=76</a> <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...">www.democraticunderground...oard.ph...</a> thread title (2-13-06 GD): The guy Cheney shot was involved in Funeralgate (gravedumping by Bush pal) Comment/excerpt: “In 1999, Bush named Austin lawyer Harry Whittington (shot this weekend by Dick Cheney) to be the new director of Texas State Funeral Commission after a major shakeup in which the former director, Eliza May, was fired while investigating accusations of grave-dumping by SCI, the largest funeral-home operator in the world, headed by Robert Waltrip, a longtime Bush friend and major campaign contributor.” Background on Funeralgate: <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...">www.democraticunderground...oard.ph...</a> thread title (2-16-06 GD): Funeralgate Company hid Katrina dead in 10 weeks! Now closing 17M morgue Comment/excerpt: Goodboy’s comment: “Following a no-bid contract, wholly-owned subsidiary of SCI, (funeralgate)Kenyon Co. have done such a great job hiding (i.e. desecrating) the dead in NOLA from Hurricane Katrina, that they're closing down a 17million dollar taxpayer funded morgue in just 10 weeks!” Post includes info and links on Funeralgate. Excerpt: “’Funeralgate’ is the name given to a scandal involving George W. Bush and family campaign contributor Robert Waltrip, owner of Service Corporation International, the largest funeral home company in the world. In 1999, Bush was subpoenaed but refused to testify in a lawsuit filed against the state of Texas and SCI by Eliza May, former director of the Texas Funeral Service Commission, who claimed that she was fired when she refused to quit investigating SCI despite pressure from Bush and his then Chief of Staff Joe Allbaugh. The lawsuit was quietly settled in November, 2001, weeks before the revelation in the media that two Florida cemeteries owned by SCI were recycling graves, removing remains from their places of rest and placing other people in the graves. 9,000 people have staked a claim to a $100,000,000 settlement in a lawsuit stemming from the desecration of graves at these cemeteries. In one instance at Menorah Gardens, a Jewish cemetery, SCI desecrated graves and left corpses in the woods where they were devoured by wild hogs.” Harry Whittington became involved in Funeralgate when he was appointed by Bush to quietly derail the investigation and make it go away -- he literally 'knows' where the bodies are buried -- and which ones were pulled from their graves to be devoured by wild hogs.

by **OptimisticAlgorithm** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:01 am

Hey Floyd, I know these guys in DC are cons as much as you do. That's why I was saying you have to keep the pressure on them. That's why Jefferson cracked me up when he said we should shoot their asses every 20 or 30 years and replace them with a new criminal class of rulers. It usually takes them about 20 years to really do some damage. The current crew is rather unique in that they have self-destructed in just a dozen years. It's supposed to be something of a record by DC standards. No, my thought here is that we're going about this wrong. We need to lobby and bribe for the Bill of Rights. If we can drive the price of corruption up, say through a large ultra liberal, anti-religious lobbying organization, then some progress might be made. We need the best reps that money can buy. The bozos we have now are cheap, and can be bought cheap. We need higher priced cons for our congress!

by **Floyd Smoots** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:15 am

James Earl Carter is a card-carrying member of the Committee on Foreign Relations. He has attended every Bilderberger conference since he was politically "big enough" to be invited. His rise to the Presidency, as a nobody from Nowhereville, GA, is just a clue to that fact. He destroyed the muscle of our defensive military as Commander-In-Chief, and, gave away for nothing, the Panama Canal, built and paid for by American money, "blood, sweat, tears, and toil". Today, thanks to that little political maneuver, the canal is now controlled by a "private company" that is totally owned by The People's Republic of China. He has always pretended to be a Bible-believing Christian, but he was outed, in a Mainstream Media newspaper article several years ago in a speech, saying that he now believed that Jesus the Christ might not be the only way to God. Now, sw, dear, ANYONE on Earth can claim to show anyone who will listen, the "Way To God"; but, according to the Holy Bible, itself, you cannot preach "Any Other Gospel" (but Jesus), and then, still "claim" to be a Christian. My biggest "personal problem" in religious discussion of any stripe these days is this. I personally don't CARE what any Free-Will-Given human being chooses to believe. That is EXTREMELY PERSONAL!!! Most of the bloggers here don't understand that belief from my posts. I don't WANT anyone to miss Heaven (as I believe in it), but I only get Really Upset when someone, anonymous or famous, CLAIMS to be a follower of Jesus Christ, and then says or writes something that is absolutely contradictory to the Holy Bible. For those who can "get the rant", it's very simply this. Disbelieve in Jesus if you wish (yeah, even You, Billy Graham, Tim LaHaye, Jimmy Carter), but don't pretend to the masses, to come in His Holy Name, preach in His Name, and mislead MILLIONS (while you pocket million$) as to the true message of the Bible. THAT angers Alexander Franklin Mutter the MOST!!! Also, sw, my dearest blogger, don't ever offer to take a bullet for anyone farther away from you than a blood relative. O.K., that's being a little "too" selective on my part, because I have a very few friends and co-workers for whom I, too, would do just that. But there is no way under the skies of Earth that I would even cross the street to urinate on James E. Carter, OR Stansfield Turner, if they were on fire, and burning to death on the sidewalk. But that's probably because I know far more about either of those men(?) than you do, or that I ever WANTED to know about them. Believe me, I think the WORLD of the "you" that you have shared with us here at R.I., but I cannot even "think" of apologizing to you for my "years-in-the-making" UTTER CONTEMPT for both of these mini-parts of the Megapus NWO. I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings. That is the LAST thing in the world that I would want to do. But, sw, dearest lady, I cannot let a "lie" (not you, but their biographers) stand in this power struggle between we freedom-lovers and the PTB, of which both of these men are full-fledged vested MEMBERS. ........Alex the Horrified Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=floydsmoots>Floyd Smoots</A> at: 2/17/06 11:26 pm

by **seemslikeadream** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:11 am

<a href="http://infowars.com/articles/us/cheney_shooting_scientific_proof.htm" target="top">infowars.com/articles/us/cheney_shooting_scientific_proof.htm</a> SCIENTIFIC PROOF CHENEY'S SHOOTING STORY A LIE Harry Whittington Shooting Ballistics Tested, Cheney shot at Whittington from 15 feet not 90 as claimed

by **CyberChrist** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:09 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>His rise to the Presidency, as a nobody from Nowhereville, GA, is just a clue to that fact.<hr></blockquote> I wouldn't call a former governor from Georgia to be someone that came from "Nowehereville". Since Nixon, 4 Presidents have been former governors of a State: Carter: Georgia Reagan: California Clinton: Arkansas Bush II: Texas Looks more like he is part of a pattern rather than a "nobody from Nowhereville, GA".

by **Qutb** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:02 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>He has always pretended to be a Bible-believing Christian, but he was outed, in a Mainstream Media newspaper article several years ago in a speech, saying that he now believed that Jesus the Christ might not be the only way to God<hr></blockquote> That does it. Jimmy Carter clearly is the Anti-Christ.

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:34 pm

Starmanm dead link here. can you help? The other woman who was present when Cheney shot Whittington was Pamela Pitzer Willeford. www.expendableelite.com/U...rchive.0..

by **thurnandtaxis** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:04 pm

WTF does HE have to apologize for?!!? <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060218/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_73;_ylt=AgT7aOmCLWC_XGy8QdzhA6ZqP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl">news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060...MlJVRPUCUl</a> Lawyer Shot by VP Released From Hospital His face marked with tiny birdshot wounds, the Austin attorney said "accidents do and will happen" and apologized for the trouble the incident had caused the vice president. "My family and I are deeply sorry for everything Vice President Cheney and his family have had to deal with," Whittington said, his voice a bit raspy but strong. ------------------------------------------------------------ As we all know, its always the victim's fault.. "sorry master, please don't punish me again, please..." Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thurnandtaxis>thurnandtaxis</A> at: 2/18/06 1:22 pm

by **albion** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:15 pm

Yikes. I haven't been convinced there was anything sinister behind all this...but the guy freaking apologizes?!? Double yikes. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=albion@rigorousintuition>albion</A> at: 2/18/06 2:16 pm

by **StarmanSkye** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:34 pm

Chiggerbit said: Starman dead link here. can you help? The other woman who was present when Cheney shot Whittington was Pamela Pitzer Willeford. www.expendableelite.com/U...rchive.0.. ******* Heyia chiggerbit; Sorry, bum link (I took it from DU source without checking) re: expendableelite.com tying Ambassador Pamela Pitzer Willeford to her 'father', a Lt. William Pitzer -- who was a Naval Officer A/V technician at the Bethesda Medical School with apparently highly incriminating information on the JFK autopsy that contradicted the official assassination theory -- and for which he was very likely killed over. Pamela grew up in Breckenridge, Texas -- I haven't found ANYTHING to suggest William Pitzer was her dad. HOWEVER: The www.expendibleelite.com homepage is a noteable site in its own right, featuring the writing and blog comments by Ltc. Daniel Marvin whose story of betrayal by the Military heirarchy (eliminating his Special Forces squad with prejudice when their covert ops became too embarrassing to the Pentagon) mirrors a few other reports of the DoDs similiar sacrifice of its own troops, ie. Spooky Eight -- one survivor who I once met. Apparently, as Ltc. Marvin claims, he was asked to assassinate Lt. Pitzer but refused, as killing members of the military in his home country was something he never signed up for. But as we know, there ARE evidently plenty of military-trained killers who don't have such scruples. While Marvin's story and revelations are very important in that they speak of how lawless and out-of-control the Pentagon has become, I find myself annoyed with and perplexed by Marvin's stubborn insistance (and others like him) on holding the US military establishment with high regard, apparently refusing to see the bigger picture how an illegitimate ruling class elite has subverted our democratic republic and rule of law in order to pursue a narrow corrupt agenda serving corporate and closely-held economic-political interests, at odds with American ideals and human rights and social justice. from <a href="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKpitzerW.htm,">www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...tzerW.htm,</a> biography of Lt. William Pitzer with excerpts of details about his suspicious death linked to the JFK conspiracy and death of convenience, with Ltc. Marvin's testimony: --quote-- It was then told to me that it was Lieutenant Commander William Bruce Pitzer whom they wanted “taken care of” before his retirement at Bethesda Naval Hospital. I refused because it was to be done in the United States. As I left, the agent went on to meet at least one other Green Beret officer that afternoon, perhaps finding a volunteer to do his bidding: LCDR William Bruce Pitzer was found shot dead in his office on 29 October 1966, victim of an assassination conspiracy, shot down in cold blood before he could show the world what he knew about the JFK assassination. --unquote-- The JFK coup d'etat is a story that Just Won't Die -- Nor should it. But there are plenty of other stories that are at least as important. You know; Starman

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:49 pm

Wow, thanks Starman. I refused because it was to be done in the United States. Weird principle.

by **Wolfmoon Lady** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:40 pm

Starman, you continue to dazzle me. As ever. I just got this forward from a madcap friend. She manages to get me laughing even in my blackest moods. (Not posting this to denegrate this informative thread, btw, just to give you RI'ers a laugh.) <a href="http://cheneyplaysfolsom.cf.huffingtonpost.com/" target="top">Cheney Plays Folsom Prison</a>

by **sunny** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:44 pm

I saw that fellow in the History Channel Doc on the JFK conspiracy- as he told his story, he was visibly upset. I felt for him. Yet yet yet- he was apparently involved in other assassinations "not in this country" for the pentagon. What can you make of a fellow like that?

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