Uncovering the Truth About the Oklahoma City Bombing

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Uncovering the Truth About the Oklahoma City Bombing

Postby nomo » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:28 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-gumbel/uncovering-the-truth-abou_b_16189.html">www.huffingtonpost.com/an...16189.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Uncovering the Truth About the Oklahoma City Bombing <br><br>We've heard plenty about intelligence failures and manipulations in the run-up to the Iraq war. We've also heard plenty about the missed warnings and bureaucratic self-justifications surrounding 9/11. But we've heard a whole lot less about the screw-ups and cover-ups surrounding an earlier American calamity, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.<br><br>That may be about to change.<br><br>According to the FBI, the bombing was the brainchild of Timothy McVeigh - now executed - and his only significant accomplice was Terry Nichols - now serving a life sentence. But a slew of official documents now surfacing thanks to the dogged efforts of a handful of campaigners, including one particularly tenacious lawyer from Salt Lake City, tell a very different story. The FBI was in fact hot on the trial of many more suspected accomplices, and has spent the past 11 years working very hard to cover up the extent of their possible involvement.<br><br>A federal judge in Salt Lake City is considering whether to release unredacted versions of more than 100 pages of FBI documents establishing links between McVeigh and a neo-Nazi bank robbery gang long suspected of having financed the bombing. Another federal judge, also in Salt Lake City, ordered the FBI just today to turn over another 55 pages of unredacted documents related to the bombing.<br><br>The lid may be about to be blown off the official version of what happened in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. For the full story, see this piece just posted at TruthDig: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060221_oklahoma_city_bombing/">www.truthdig.com/report/i...y_bombing/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Uncovering the Truth About the Oklahoma City Bombing

Postby PeterofLoneTree » Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:44 pm

As soon as I saw the photograph on the above site, I was reminded of this quote from an article entitled "Conspiracy Theorists" at <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://tinyurl.com/bes85">tinyurl.com/bes85</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Then of course, there were the "crazy conspiracy theories" arising from the bombing of the Alfred Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City. In that matter, audio tapes and witnesses agree that there were <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>TWO EXPLOSIONS</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (emph. PoLT), the first of which occurred inside the building between eight and ten seconds before the truck bomb exploded." <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Uncovering the Truth About the Oklahoma City Bombing

Postby OnoI812 » Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:22 pm

much of that article place blame where it is not rightly due.<br><br>"Conspiracy Theorists" at tinyurl.com/bes85<br><br>Once you delve into what really happened to America you come to the overstanding that America's pretty much been took before TV ever reared it's ugly head.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Uncovering the Truth About the Oklahoma City Bombing

Postby StarmanSkye » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:42 pm

Righto -- TV is NOT necessarily the biggest, baddest buggaboo to make people complacent and naive, incapable or unwilling to put the effort into critical thinking or to hold their officials accountable. I think a lot of it has to do with cultural conditioning, but especially our dumbing-down public 'education' system that make it so easy to sell the public on false histories and occupy them with infotainment disinfo. And then there are the cultural myths that encourage groupthink adherance and conformity upholding cherished ideals, such as 'support our troops' and 'America the Free'. But as a major media-disseminating channel, tv is sure part of the message-mechanism.<br><br>A bigger criticism I have with Jolly Roger's article is his apparant lack of being informed re: the Lockebie crash and Kozinski's links to CIA Mind Control programs in the 50s and 60s.<br><br>"There were no conspiracy theories arising from the explosion of flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, and there were no conspiracy theories arising from the work of the uni-bomber, so the newly invented psycho-babble that tries to explain the malady of conspiracy theorists, also needs to explain why millions of conspiracy theorists all decided not to theorize about those events. There is no psychological malady. There was simply no evidence to indicate a conspiracy."<br><br>HOW could someone presumably aware of conspiracy controversies and the US's history of lies, fraud, cover-up, revisionism, corruption, terrorism and black-ops be ignorant of the evidence strongly refuting the official 'Libya did it' US position?<br><br>Roger's thesis, that government cover-up and secrecy and lies feed a conspiracy 'industry' is close enough to the mark, but his example above as 'proof' is abysmal and plain wrong.<br>Sloppy thinking or bad research.<br><br>He doesn't offer much insight in terms of what we should 'do' about the present crisis of leadership and constitutional fraud. Sure, discussing issues, empowering people with the truth, and like that are deadly important. Personally, I think it will take something like a massive public strike to force return to rule of law and basic principles of honest, competant gummint.<br>'Course, such a strike would require great gobs of truth so the people will realize how they've been betrayed and misruled for so long, and their nation's legacy squandered while neocolonial scams have spread violence and misery around the world.<br><br>BTW: Good to see more public revelations about the deep cover-up of official malfeasance and official links to individuals involved in the bombing. This goes to the heart of gummint lack of accountability and lack of transparency and official abuse of power, all of which are betrayals of our democratic republic. It's essentially impossible for the kind of fuel-oil truck-bomb described to have created even 1/10 the destruction caused. The thing stinks like the Bali and Madrid bombings, for similiar reasons.<br>Starman<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Oklahoma Bombing

Postby mother » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:28 pm

.> Good points. At least 7 years ago I read a book about the Murrah incident by the former attourney of McVeigh, whose name I of course forget. McVeigh fired him, but apparently disgusted by the whole deal this lawyer went on to write a book. What impressed me at the time was the claim that when European experts (as opposed to the US guys) looked at the damage, with all the years of experience in Northern Ireland, the idea of two guys doing this was not considered possible. And does anybody else remember the nearly immediate "discovery" of the truck's serial number? Right away, amid the twisted carnage the incriminating proof was found. After reading more book on the subject, the more the Oklahoma story merged into the "Identity" movement with Mind Control undertones. At least for me, reading between the lines. <p></p><i></i>
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