Karl Rove and the Port Security Deal

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Karl Rove and the Port Security Deal

Postby FugitiveInitiate » Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:00 pm

Received this interesting theory from a fellow board reader, Teacher of Pax:<br><br><br>The latest issue being played out in media and political circles is the PORT SECURITY DEAL. As most of you probably know, the UAE has been given a contract to take over management of 6 U.S. ports. Strangely, the Bush Adminstration is showing strong support IN FAVOR of the deal, while congressional REPUBLICANS and the news media (Fox,CNN,etc) are STRONGLY AGAINST THE DEAL. Bush is now threatening to VETO any efforts the Congress puts forth to stop the deal.<br><br>Now lets take a look at what this is REALLY all about. We have Bush (the real muslim/arab hatemonger) on one side saying it is unfair to our Arab friends to treat them as if they are all terrorists. "Our Arab friends." At the same time the news media and congressional republicans are stoking the fire by implying that this deal will pose a major security threat to the nation, getting the people all riled up against ARABS. Now watch carefully because its a subtle trick. The American people who have been largely kind to Arabs, even after 9-11, are now showing outrage and rejection towards them while Bush, whose intention is to wipe islam off the map (because they do not like the usury system of banking, you see), is now suddenly the ARAB-FRIENDLY one. Bush can now PULL OUT on the deal, stop it and claim that he has a MANDATE to discriminate against ARABS because that is what the AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT.<br><br>This whole thing is a Karl Rove manufactured PSY-OP to stoke Arab hatred among the American people so that the Bush Administration can claim a MANDATE heading into their next invasion, which is IRAN, in March. (Dollars versus Euros--Iranian Oil Bourst, etc)<br><br>Remember that the Hegelian dialect is the control of both sides of any argument with the purpose of bringing about 'certain ends.' <br><br><br> <p>"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein</p><i></i>
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Re: Karl Rove and the Port Security Deal

Postby CyberChrist » Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:12 pm

Interesting theory, but it's full of holes:<br><br>1) Bush doesn't have to pull out of anything to justify action. He has proven over and over that he could care less what people think and he will do whatever he is told is the best thing to do. There were massive protests against the war in Iraq and the invasion still went on, for example.<br><br>2) The idea that Muslims hate usury ignore the fact that some of the largest banks of the face of the planet are in those countries. In fact, the Dubai Royal Family, which owns DP World (the company that is going to take over the ports), also owns the national bank of UAE. They also have huge holdings in banks, media, and real estate in America.<br><br>3) I don't see this as a PSY-OP at all. I really don't think that the Bush Administration thought that the American people would react in such a racist and ignorant manner. There are a lot of reasons to oppose the deal, and none of them are solely because the deal benefits Arabs that had nationals supposedly take part in the 9/11 attacks.<br><br>4) Bush will never pull out of the deal. After he leaves office, he will go right back to doing business with these people. He has nothing to gain from pulling out of the deal and too much to lose. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Karl Rove and the Port Security Deal

Postby sunny » Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:20 pm

Considering Bush's sundry business and personal ties with, for example, the Bin Ladens, this theory is bunk. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Karl Rove and the Port Security Deal

Postby FugitiveInitiate » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:56 pm

I think you are missing the point. Bush's relationship with muslims is not important. We all know he is in bed with them and will continue to be. But the fact is that they are using this port deal to stoke outrage against Arabs among the American people. They knew full well that with Fox and CNN and the congressional GOP leadership stoking the fires, that the people would react with hostility and ignorance towards the arabs who are "invading" our ports, as Bill O'Reilly has said. <br><br>It is very clear and obvious that this is another Rovian psy op designed to get the American People to VOICE A MANDATE that is clearly anti Arab, and just in time for another invasion or Arab/persian lands. Whether Bush does or does not pull out of the deal, his role is to show a friendly side towards muslims while the American people are baited by Fox and CNN and the GOP leadership in congress to show outrage and rejection toward Arab people. <br><br>One fact above all remains. America is being turned into a Straussian Dictatorship which will be controlled by a private and very corporate military police apparatus. Anyone in the world who stands in the way of The American Corporate Empire and resists its attempts to bring Walmarts and Big Macs to their doorsteps, will be bombed into submission under the pretense they are a threat to our freedom. Everything these goons do and say is aimed towards these ends. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Karl Rove and the Port Security Deal

Postby CyberChrist » Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:00 pm

Sorry, I disagree completely. I think Karl Rove is the closest thing we have to the Antichrist, but I don't see this as any kind of Rovian plot. I think people were just being stupid, ignorant, and greedy and the American reaction caught everyone offguard.<br><br>This story is really about cronyism and outsourcing. <p>--<br>CyberChrist<br>http://www.hackerjournal.org<br>My brain is hung like a horse.</p><i></i>
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P(issed) O(ff)

Postby Byrne » Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:48 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This story is really about cronyism and outsourcing. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->I'm sure there is some of that in there but as far as I can see, the story is about the British ports and shipping firm P&O (who currently run these US ports, together with owning & operating many other worldwide container ports) being taken over by Dubai Ports (DP World) which is owned by the Dubai government. The US ports are just 'part of the deal'.<br><br>From <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/business/4480542.stm" target="top">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, P&O weren't doing so well & they were approached by Dubai Ports with a takeover offer "too attractive to resist". Rival bids were possibly expected from firms from Denmark, Singapore and Hong Kong, but none materialised.<br><br>'Dubai Ports (DP World) is one of several Dubai government-linked firms looking for assets to invest in, backed by huge cash piles from the Gulf emirate's resources.' <br><br>Of course there are security concerns <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4731560.stm" target="top">which look likely to be dismissed by the US Government</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, but this is just the free market biting the US in the backside. The state of Dubai probably wants to get rid of some US (Oil)Dollars before they plunge in value. The takeover of P&O deal is expected to be finalised on 2 March 2006 - just nicely before the kick off with Iran. <br><br>Maybe there is a payback for Dubia - they can have the license to own & run these US ports (i.e the current P&O operations are wholly transferred to them), as long as Dubai 'plays ball' with the US inentions for dealing with Iran. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: P(issed) O(ff)

Postby chiggerbit » Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:34 pm

From Robert Parry at Consortium News:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/022206.html">www.consortiumnews.com/2006/022206.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>UAE, Port Security & the Hariri Hit<br><br>With the United Arab Emirates poised to take over six key U.S. ports, the reputation of its own chief port as a smuggling center used by arms traffickers, drug dealers and terrorists is drawing new attention. A key lead in the year-old investigation of the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri also runs through the UAE as the transshipment point for the van used by terrorists to blow up Hariri and his entourage in Beirut..... February 22, 2006<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 2/22/06 4:36 pm<br></i>
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Re: P(issed) O(ff)

Postby chiggerbit » Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:50 pm

Not sure if this has been covered elsewhere, but this bit of port-a-gate news from Kate-a-blog is interesting:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://kateablog.blogspot.com/">kateablog.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Friday, February 24, 2006<br>Fatter Cats <br><br>While pundits and pols pretend Americans are endangered with the UAE Dubai Ports (DP) deal to operate 6 US ports, no one I've read mentions the sale in December 2004 of CSX Corporation’s International Terminal Business to DP.<br><br>"CSX owns companies providing rail, intermodal and rail-to-truck transload services that are among the nation's leading transportation companies, connecting more than 70 river, ocean and lake ports, as well as more than 200 short line railroads. Its principal operating company, CSX Transportation Inc., operates the largest railroad in the eastern United States with a 22,000-mile rail network linking commercial markets in 23 states, the District of Columbia, and two Canadian provinces. CSXT headquarters are in Jacksonville, Fla." <br><br>CSX's domestic lines was sold in December 2002 to the Carlyle Group. It appears Dubai purchased only the international terminal business of CSX and Carlyle the domestic lines of CSX. Those domestic lines being predominantly rails. Guess we know who will be shipping us in boxcars to those detention centers built by Halliburton/KBR.<br><br>If CSX rings any bells that may be due to Floridian Thomas Martin Fiorentino, a fatcat one time CSX lobbyist, who in 1997 took a "courageous stand" against "political sell-outs to special-interests, denouncing a Florida fundraiser in which fat cats who contributed $50,000 got a private audience with President Clinton and Al Gore." <br><br>Fiorentino has since courageously served BushCo in D.C. as chief of staff of the Federal Railroad Administration and counselor to the Deputy Secretary of Transportation. Or the bell may ring because John Snow, Treasury Secretary, was CEO of CSX............<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 2/27/06 5:51 pm<br></i>
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Re: P(issed) O(ff)

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:12 pm

Interesting:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://simplyappalling.blogspot.com/2004/07/butler-report-and-aq-khan.html">simplyappalling.blogspot....-khan.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"...As for AQ Khan’s confession, Mr. B. Raman, a retired Indian bureaucrat and now employed in a thinktank, writes <br><br>Pakistani sources claim that there has been another bombshell in the admissions of guilt made by Khan's colleagues and juniors, who are still under custody and questioning. They are reported to have stated that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>during his over 40 visits to Dubai in the last three years</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, he had met Iraqi intelligence officials who sought his help in having some of the weapons of mass destruction (WMD) material of Iraq airlifted from Syria to Pakistan for being kept in safe custody there to prevent their falling into the hands of the UN inspectors. Khan allegedly agreed to their request...." <p></p><i></i>
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Re: P(issed) O(ff)

Postby Qutb » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:17 pm

Well, they repeat the absurd notion that Iraq had WMD and sent them to Syria before the war... <p></p><i></i>
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