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Postby havanagilla » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:47 pm

just wondering if it is at all possible that the CIA (with or without MI whatever) tricked the israeli establishment... <p></p><i></i>
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Summary of Last 3 Classes

Postby FourthBase » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:20 am

Summary of last 3 classes.<br><br>- Off Topic rant about Larry Summers leaving Harvard.<br>Mostly a rant against political correctness, I didn't mind.<br>Touched on Harvard's "Corporation", the 7 in charge of the 20+ billion endowment...recommended Bob Rubin for new president of H.<br><br>- Rest of class about the dynamics of epidemics (as it relates to the spread of ideas). Vector, agent, host, reservoir. Probability of infection per contact, rate of acquisition, duration of infectious period. Stressed the need for vaccinations. Obviously, WHA is trying to "vaccinate" us to conspiracies. He didn't go there, of course. Then some "Tipping Point" ideas re: salesmen, etc.<br><br>- Then some crap relating to Summers's notion about men and women. Normal distribution, two intersecting bell curves.<br><br>- Then he talked about apophemia -- seeing patterns where none exist. WHA: "This is the whole idea of conspiracies" <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Correlation not necessarily = causality...WOW, what a revelation. [yawn] Talked about chance, bias, confounding...blah.<br><br>Some juicy WHA tidbits:<br>- WHA is skeptical of peak oil, of the notion that oil is a nonrenewable resource.<br>- WHA thinks the "CIA created HIV" CT is especially pernicious, that the KGB invented that CT.<br>- MRI guy points out that the existence of secret organizations that keep dossiers on people like Lennon and MLK encourages CT. WHA surprisingly suggests that JFK and Lennon conspiracy theorizing is "not a crazy thought".<br>- WHA brings up underground bases and tunnels. Tries to paint them as fantasies of alien obsessives, someone insists that they exist. Class jokes and laughs, WHA interrupts the mirth and sobers the class. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>He says that his good friend headed the Continuity Project, then he curses "Hansen the traitor" for ruining it.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>- Someone brings up John Mack, WHA says he was a good friend, then laments Mack's turn toward alien abduction stories.<br>- WHA has ideas about visiting Dulce, NM to "see what it's all about" and has jokingly (?) requested that if any of us go there, to give him a report.<br>- Talks about Area 51 as a "huge underground Air Force experiment", says its existence and the extreme $$$ involved makes people wonder what the gov't could be testing.<br><br>- Brings out the usual tripe about conspiracies being unlikely because of the # of conspirators and accomplices needed + the chance of anybody squealing. Says real conspiracies are limited. Of course, he doesn't define "limited" and he ignores the power and scope that conspirators would possess.<br>- WHA: "Sometimes crazy people do get it right"<br>- Someone mentions chip implants, and in the course of poo-poo-ing that WHA describes the implant victims as being "interrogated remotely". Struck me as specialized language, like maybe he has experience with it.<br>- Talked about the effect of the internet on CT. CT is diffused faster, but also defused faster -- "debunked, evaporated" vs. "generated". Says that "unfortunately, the truth is not an effective defense" against CT. Note the possible connotations of that. LOL.<br>- MRI guy PWN3D WHA with a comment that Western religions encourage teleology and apophemia, and therefore encourage CT.<br>- WHA says he's been in meetings with two dozen or so people of varied security clearances, in which he's thrown out ideas and been SHHH'd because unbeknownst to him, his idea was classified.<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Next class:</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>- Midterm questions:<br>1. Question about "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"<br>2. What does "Cui Bono?" mean?<br>3. Discuss "there are no coincidences" vs. chance, bias, confounding.<br>4. Describe the Solomon Asch and Stanley Milgrim group psychology experiments.<br>5. Come up with a question on your own.<br><br>I'll decline for now to say which ones I answered because I don't want to give too much about myself away just yet. I did get an A, however. I thought for sure I'd get a C. Meh, I guess I'm kind of smart after all.<br><br>- This class (after the exam) dealt with the nature of humor, how we conspiracists have no sense of humor (BS), how all humor is either affiliative or ostracizing (BS).<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Next class:</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>- Discussion of the Lincoln assasination, as a "real conspiracy". WHA presents a diagram and timeline of Booth and his accomplices as <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> conspiracy, says it demonstrates how a real conspiracy is compact in time and space. Touches on some alternate, more expansive theories. Barely acknowledges the damning evidence that is Booth's calling card to Andrew Johnson. Uses "international bankers", the Vatican, and Masons as strawmen. Doesn't even bother mentioning Booth's trip to see Jacob Thompson the Confederate intel chief in Montreal, where Surrat the Confederate secret agent also was, or that Albert Pike the Masonic Confederate general had also fled to Canada and then later so famously promoted Johnson as a Freemason and got pardoned. WHA does talk about Stanton's strange behavior...but ignores the LaFayette Baker cipher.<br>- WHA: the underlying dynmaic of CT = how can we connect our enemies to bad events. [vomit]<br>- Then he opens up the JFK assassination door.<br>Mentions that he was in an <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>appendix</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> to some JFK assassination theorist's book, which is just a list of AFIO members. I've seen that before. I guess he wasn't named especially as a suspect. Oh well. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>- Does say that he wasn't "a particularly big fan of JFK".<br>- Kept insinuating that LHO was a communist. Says there's no evidence that LHO was a CIA/FBI agent. Uggggggggh. I wanted to pull my hair out. Claims to have never seen evidence that JFK wanted to pull out of Vietnam. Claims to have never heard of Lee Bowers. Says LHO and Ruby just "wanted to be bigshots". The JFK assassination is a huge litmus test for me, and WHA failed it miserably. He's a dreadful, lying spook. I mean, of course he is. I didn't expect anything more.<br>- WHA was asked by someone why there were so many neuropsychiatrists at Gitmo, WHA says he was the "chief of neuropsychiatry" but the only one there. I'm glad somebody hinted at this old bastard's evilness. I wanted to raise my hand so many times but refrained, and that one time I wish I had. I've kept pretty quiet, and it's been tough on the nerves. I seem really outnumbered, anyway...but WHA knows there are conspiracists "lurking" in the class. And there are at least a dozen, just from looking at the exasperated faces.<br><br>So...can anyone tell me who was the head of the Continuity Project? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Summary of Last 3 Classes

Postby NewKid » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:17 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Rest of class about the dynamics of epidemics (as it relates to the spread of ideas). Vector, agent, host, reservoir. Probability of infection per contact, rate of acquisition, duration of infectious period. Stressed the need for vaccinations. Obviously, WHA is trying to "vaccinate" us to conspiracies. He didn't go there, of course. Then some "Tipping Point" ideas re: salesmen, etc.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Interesting that ideas are considered to be like diseases. It'd be nice to see some studies on this. I'm sure it's all been done. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I did get an A, however. I thought for sure I'd get a C. Meh, I guess I'm kind of smart after all.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>You know what happens to the good students don't you?<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Claims to have never seen evidence that JFK wanted to pull out of Vietnam. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>From all you've said, he's pretty clearly a complete fool or a charlatan playing games and fucking with you guys. Tell him there's a big world out there outside of the torture camps. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://bostonreview.net/BR28.5/galbraith.html" target="top">bostonreview.net/BR28.5/galbraith.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>So...can anyone tell me who was the head of the Continuity Project? <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The name pulls up all sorts of unrelated stuff with a quick google search. So right off the bat no. But since Hansen was the spy guy in the FBI, it probably has something to do with Russian counterintelligence. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=newkid@rigorousintuition>NewKid</A> at: 3/16/06 4:18 am<br></i>
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Re: Summary of Last 3 Classes

Postby FourthBase » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:29 am

Yeah, ideas = diseases = viruses = memes = old hat.<br><br>I don't think he's a fool, although he plays himself off as one sometimes with "aw shucks" midwestern pretensions. So he's definitely a charlatan who's trying to fuck with us. And either he's succeeding with most of the class, or most of the class was already anti-conspiracy-theory. Not heartening either way.<br><br>Continuity in Government Project, I assume.<br>Presumably why all the tunnels and bunkers were built.<br>He was definitely talking about Robert Hansen. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Summary of Last 3 Classes

Postby NewKid » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:45 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Yeah, ideas = diseases = viruses = memes = old hat.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Sure in a kind of pop marketing way. I think what he's talking about is a little more sophisticated. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Continuity in Government Project, I assume.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>Hansen wouldn't have screwed it up much because it all came back after 9-11 if it ever went away. <br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.continuityofgovernment.org/about/about.html" target="top">www.continuityofgovernment.org/about/about.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br>Hansen also supposedly gave Promis stuff to the Russians. There are some theories out there about that I think. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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