Chomsky: US failed state, Look to NWO

[AlicetheCurious]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Indeed, that's why dispotic, warmongering governments throughout history have used conscription: because it hurts them! Well, not actually. In actuality it gives the government more power to thow away individuals' lives like they were used toilet paper. It massively increases the usurpations, brutality, and rapine of the government against its own subjects, and devalues human life by making the masses into cannon fodder for the state, to be used and abused as the state sees fit. It's a massive violation of an individual's right to own his own body.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Well, what you say makes sense, but I believe you are distorting Chomsky's argument. He says that relying on a "volunteer" army results in an army disproportionately made up of the poorest and most vulnerable going off to fight and die in the wars of the elites. I believe his argument is that conscription spreads the pain across class and racial lines, raising the cost for a wider cross-section of the population and therefore making it more likely that they'll turn away from their Oprah or latest "murdered white-girl" story to question why their children are being put in harm's way.<br><br>I think it's a valid point, too. I mean, look at all the chickenhawks screaming for war, backed up by all those flag-waving, fat-assed, idiots, who neither know nor care that they are being lied to. They might, however, if it was their children coming home maimed or in body bags. Chomsky is merely saying a variation of the "Send the Bush twins to Iraq!" antiwar slogan.<br><br>On the other hand, I think Chomsky may not have caught up to the fact that America has changed. A lot. And that in these crazy Orwellian times, it may be too late for Americans to wake up and rise up.<br><br>It's merely a difference of opinion, bud. No need to get all paranoid about it. It happens all the time, even among people who are not secret disinfo agents and trolls, or whatever. <p></p><i></i>

[havanagilla]

Alice, i think you are right in expounding chomsky's idea about the military, but I think he is wrong nonetheless. <br>Conscription started as a dismanteling of "elite" armies, as in the past mostly the gentry had military careers and in fact in WW1 Europe lost a fair amount of its elite youth. This didn't stop wars from happening. Universal draft hasn't stopped Israel from being warcrazed, and I am sure professional armies will not. Most likely, its not so important what the composition of the army is, because all three possibilities didn't work. The business of war is probably deeper than that, and I haven't been able to understand it so far.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>