Worst case scenario modelization, expendable USA

[eglantin]

<br>Pre-suppositions :<br>-  Non-traditional financial/industrial elites are ruling the western countries and their external politics since the industrial revolution. In the higher spheres, there is collusion with esotericism, occultism, ancient (or not) secret societies, since magical workings bring power and results.<br>-  Radical Islamism is an offspring of the western will to quell arab nationalism by undermining laicity/modernism –thereforce preventing those nations to entertain proper diplomatic relations amongst nations-, and the will to counter communism –which may have been propelled by same elites in the first place-, then the need of having an enemy to replace Soviet Union.<br>To be the number 1 player requires preventing challengers from becoming too powerful, but one of them must be strong enough to keep the champion on its toes.<br>-  Jews/Israel are expendable resources. Antisemitism has been used since the XIXth century as a red herring to distract working classes from looking at the real enemy: financial/industrial elites, regardless of breed. Hitler was led to believe –directly or with more subtlety- that jews were the cause of the western world degeneration. World war II had two results:<br>•        Shaming of the idea of a third way, which would not be capitalism or communism, i.e. shaming of traditional ideas<br>•        Creation of the state of Israel, further destabilizing the Middle-East<br>Occult sacrifice of jews and gypsies too.<br><br><br><br>Has the USA utility run its course? The elites may very well decide that the USA position is unsustainable anymore, and ditch their support.<br>They can do so, because they have financial power to convert from one zone to another (currency, investments), and have the industrial earnings from war flowing in.<br><br>A war with Iran will result in economic depression, from which they will benefit, since they know the economic game, and seem to rule it.<br>Attacking Iran will surely lead to reactions from China and Russia. Chinese economy has to be kept in check. Western elites are western, not asian. They will relocate their assets in Europe, which may not take place in the conflict. They could bleed the USA dry to weaken the asian powers. That might include nuking, who knows?<br><br>Jews might be once more sacrified. Should the USA attack Iran, Iran will retaliate on Israel, which will of course retaliate, then the arab countries will jump in and all hell shall be loosen in the Middle East. Radical Islamism surges forward. Clash of civilizations appears total. Finally! It can be now totally capitalized upon.<br><br><br><br>I’m sorry, nicely constructed reasonings are not my strong point, nor is english my native language. But in a nutshell:<br>Western financial/industrial elites are stateless, war and chaos make them rich -not to mention occult power brought through mass sacrifice, and I think it’s not that absurd-. They don’t have nationalistic ideologies, but blood knows its kindred: they don’t want slavic, asian or indian ethnies as top world players (not to mention semites, africans or mixed latin-south american indians)<br>They will go as far as sustainable for the western block, to cripple surging economic entities (China, India), and keep cashing in.<br><br>Does this seem absurd to you? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=eglantin>eglantin</A> at: 4/18/06 8:26 am<br></i>

[darkbeforedawn]

Yup, that about sums it up. The only good thing about all this will be to see the expressions on those idiot Christain fundamentalists zionists when they find out they aren't in the club--that small group of billionairs who are the real "elect" and call the shots for their own benefit. Kinda like when the people who elected W the last two times now are losing their jobs. <p></p><i></i>

[StarmanSkye]

Eglantin:<br><br>Well-done, you've provided a succint, accurate description of the overall game-plan the behind-the-scenes elites have been running at least since the industrial revolution if not before (private families and Vatican making loans to European rulers to subsidize war and New World exploration funds, acquiring the Hudsun Bay and Land Sales et al. franchises, moving into Banking, Railroads, shipping, cotton, coal, ranches, slaves, opium, industrials and War-making).<br><br>As you suggest, the Russian Revolution indeed may have been subsidized by these combines as framework for the plots and schemes. The forces of Germanic Fascism, with a threatening blockade that provoked Japan's waging of war, created unprecedented opportunities for the global elites to expand their power, wealth and influence, shaping and controlling the postwar world behind the scenes, finessing opportunities through the lens of the Cold War and the politics of tension -- where the US's unquestioned authority to engage in covert ops became perfect cover to intervene in the politics and economy of scores of developing nations, coordinating America's defacto imperialist agenda with exceptionally lucrative criminal racketeering ventures. They have certainly refined the basic principles -- but it's the same thing at-play with the present scams ie. War on Terror and War on Drugs -- <br>One thing you wrote really caught my attention -- <br><br>--quote--<br>Has the USA utility run its course? The elites may very well decide that the USA position is unsustainable anymore, and ditch their support.<br><br>They can do so, because they have financial power to convert from one zone to another (currency, investments), and have the industrial earnings from war flowing in.<br><br>A war with Iran will result in economic depression, from which they will benefit, since they know the economic game, and seem to rule it.<br><br>Attacking Iran will surely lead to reactions from China and Russia. Chinese economy has to be kept in check. Western elites are western, not asian. They will relocate their assets in Europe, which may not take place in the conflict. They could bleed the USA dry to weaken the asian powers. That might include nuking, who knows?<br><br>--unquote--<br><br>That might be part of the rationale behind the US Military and Rev. (sic) Moon both moving into and developing sparsely-settled regions in the more obscure, remote regions of South America in Bolivia, Ecuador and Argentine -- where there's a huge aquifier -- and which would likely make an excellant fall-back reserve should global catastrophe occur. More practically however, the point is noteable about global elites having means and opportunity, advance plans and resources and information and fluidity that enable them to jump-ship as caution and prudence dictate. I would think some parts of South America, Russia, Australia/New Zealand would be high on their 'lists' of places to immigrate to where they can keep their rackets going, should the US becime too untenable due to war, civil-strife or an economic blow-out.<br><br>It is nothing short of amazing that they've been able to cover their tracks for so long before so many -- but once one begins to peel the layers of contradictions and falseness from 'official' history and faux-news propaganda, and to earnestly examine what the significance is devoid of the typical myth-expanding PR disinfo-spin of American exceptionalism or the 'benefits' of corporate-evangelicism or NATO's 'useful-idiot' complicity in bombing Yugoslavian non-combatant citizens -- <br><br>Starman <p></p><i></i>