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National Archives Indian Records Discarded

Postby Martha » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:20 am

National Archives Indian Records Discarded<br><br><br>Thursday September 22, 2005 4:01 AM<br><br>By JOHN HEILPRIN<br><br>Associated Press Writer<br><br>WASHINGTON (AP) - Federal officials are investigating how National Archives documents of interest to Indians suing the Interior Department were found discarded in a trash bin and a wastebasket.<br><br>The discovery came to light on Sept. 1, when Archives staff noticed federal records in one of the trash bins behind the National Archives Building near the Capitol. They notified the Archives' inspector general, Paul Brachfeld, whose staff recovered the documents.<br><br>They found at least a portion of the documents were Bureau of Indian Affairs records dating to the 1950s, according to Jason Baron of the Archives' Office of General Counsel, in a letter last week to an Interior Department official.<br><br>Brachfeld's office began investigating, and ``what appear to be Indian records were discovered in a waste basket in the stack areas at Main Archives,'' Baron wrote. Taken together, the two dumping incidents ``may be intentional acts aimed at unlawfully removing or disposing of permanent records from the Interior Department,'' he wrote. <br><br>(snip)<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5294339,00.html">Link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: National Archives Indian Records Discarded

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:56 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Congress found problems in 1994 with Interior's administration of 260,000 Indian trust accounts containing $400 million. Two years later, Elouise Cobell of the Blackfeet Indian tribe and others filed suit. They allege the department cheated about 500,000 Indians out of more than $100 billion, by mismanaging oil, gas, grazing, timber and other royalties from their lands dating to 1887. They have offered to settle for $27.5 billion.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br><br>Whew! I knew there had always been a lot of graft related to manageing the Indians property, but that is even worse than I had imagined. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: National Archives Indian Records Discarded

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:07 pm

snip, emphasis mine<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/IndianAffairs.htm">www.the-catbird-seat.net/...ffairs.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>...To give the government greater control of tribal lands, Congress divided reservations into parcels called "allotments" and awarded them to each member of a tribe-but reserved the authority to manage the property. <br><br>Anyone who wanted to lease Indian-owned lands made their payments directly to the government, which was then supposed to pass the money along to the Indians who had been allotted the lands. <br><br>But officials of the Bureau of Indian Affairs <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>often failed to collect lease payments</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->-and when they did, the money didn't always make its way to Native Americans. As many as 90 percent of the fund's records may be missing, and the few that are available are in comically bad condition. <br><br>An Interior Department report provided to the court refers to storage facilities plagued by problems ranging from "poisonous spiders in the vicinity of stored records" to "mixed records strewn throughout the room with heavy rodent activity." <br><br>Federal officials have "spent more than 100 years mismanaging, diverting, and losing money that belongs to Indians," says John Echohawk of the Native American Rights Fund, which is directing the lawsuit. <br><br>"They have no idea how much has been collected from the companies that use our land and are unable to provide even a basic, regular statement to most Indian account holders...."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: National Archives Indian Records Discarded

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:26 pm

snip of an interview<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://pdr.autono.net/HarryMartin.html">pdr.autono.net/HarryMartin.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>...HARRY MARTIN: Well, there are several Indian reservations that are being used by the Wackenhut Corporation and intelligence agencies to do things like manufacture equipment or….. They can skip a lot of corners because these nations are technically independent. For instance, one reservation is in New Mexico, but it also goes across the Mexican border. Therefore, it becomes an open corridor where you don’t use customs or anything because part of your properties are in one country and part is in another. And they have used these Indian tribes for everything from the manufacture of weapons to the software situation, opening up gambling casinos. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>And understand, a lot of the money involved in the savings and loan scandal came from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. The Bureau of Indian Affairs puts out money to be invested on short-term notices, and this is how a lot of the savings and loans that went down started up. And that’s where a lot of their money came from...</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/22/05 11:12 am<br></i>
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Re: National Archives Indian Records Discarded

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:42 pm

Some really good links here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.dickshovel.com/bur.html">www.dickshovel.com/bur.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Paul Wellstone investigation Bureau of Indian Affairs

Postby DrDebugDU » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:50 pm

Anybody know what happened to that investigation?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Wellstone was also the lead voice in the Senate, pushing for the investigation of the missing $350 million from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. This is the affair in which Secretary of Interior Gale Norton has twice taken the Fifth Amendment and refused to answer questions about how $350 million disappeared late in the Reagan-Bush administration<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0211/S00013.htm">www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0211/S00013.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Another source gives a different amount, but either way it's a lot of money<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>The trust accounts in question -- which hold approximately $450 million at any given time -- aren't filled with government handouts. They contain money that belongs to individual Indians who have earned it from a variety of sources such as oil and gas production, grazing leases, coal production and timber sales on their allotted lands.<br><br>Revenues from such sources are held in more than 387,000 Individual Indian Money (IIM) accounts managed -- or according to detractors, "mismanaged" -- by the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA). "The BIA has spent more than 100 years mismanaging, diverting and losing money that belongs to Indians," John Echohawk says. "They have no idea how much has been collected from the companies that use our land and are unable to provide even a basic, regular statement to Indian account holders."<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.monitor.net/monitor/free/biatrustfund.html">www.monitor.net/monitor/free/biatrustfund.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Paul Wellstone investigation Bureau of Indian Affairs

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:18 pm

<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>They can skip a lot of corners because these nations are technically independent. For instance, one reservation is in New Mexico, but it also goes across the Mexican border. Therefore, it becomes an open corridor where you don’t use customs or anything because part of your properties are in one country and part is in another.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>Imagine how handy that is when the covert goverment agencies or their "privatized" (yeah, right, "privatized") contractors are running drugs.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Ugh

Postby Col Quisp » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:23 pm

(sorry for the bad non-PC subject heading). I can't believe this. I do not wish to be a part of the actions of our government. As long as I continue to do nothing, I'm just as guilty, for I reap the benefits of the spoils. <br><br>This just underscores the ugliness of the Ugly American. <p></p><i></i>
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records

Postby dbeach » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:27 pm

military records were burned in a fire in ST Loius which make sit tuff for some Vets to get benfits..<br>funny how records go missing <p></p><i></i>
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Re: records

Postby DrDebugDU » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:28 pm

Only the important records go missing. Information about Zapata when HW was in charge. Junior's military records. Enron investigation. Indian affairs. Just small things... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: records

Postby mourningdove » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:49 pm

Not to worry...Lockheed Martin got the contract to keep all that precious information safe and secure.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/11/AR2005091101019.html">from: Washington Post</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Lockheed to Lead Archives Project<br><br>By Jason Miller<br>Special to The Washington Post<br>Monday, September 12, 2005; Page D04<br><br>The National Records and Archives Administration has responsibility for the billions of electronic records that federal agencies produce annually, including architectural plans for federal buildings, weapons systems designs, White House e-mails, and memos from every department and agency.<br><br>Last week, the agency tapped Lockheed Martin Corp. of Bethesda to build a $308 million system to store and maintain those records.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>As usual I don't know whether I want to laugh or cry.... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: records

Postby dbeach » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:57 pm

I best tell the Vets to hurry up and get their records before there is another missing file or mystery fire.. <p></p><i></i>
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Lockheed is not so bad....

Postby DrDebugDU » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:01 pm

Halliburton is still the #1 war profiteering company. Lockheed is only #2... <br><br>The military industrial congressional complex indeed. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>The term "Military Industrial Complex" was first used by Dwight Eisenhower in his last speech as president of the United States (17th January, 1961):<br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;">"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.<br><br>"We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br>Eisenhower’s speech was written by Malcolm Moos. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I have been reliably informed that the first draft of the speech included the term “Military Industrial Congressional Complex”</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Objections were raised and was changed to “Military Industrial Complex”. You can read about Moos here:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www1.umn.edu/pres/05_hist_moos.html">www1.umn.edu/pres/05_hist_moos.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>John Simkin<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1037&st=15">educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1037&st=15</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Military Industrial Complex<br>#1 : Lockheed Martin Corporation $17 billion<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Military-industrial_complex">www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Military-industrial_complex</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Lockheed is not so bad....

Postby AnnaLivia » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:48 pm

Hey, don't you DARE let American Indians slip out of their enforced poverty.<br><br>Custer: "Don't you know they have bows and arrows of mass destruction and hate us for our freedoms?"<br><br>sorry. this subject pushes every button i've got.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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The demonizing of Ward Churchill earlier this year related.

Postby Watchful Citizen » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:59 pm

Not only did Ward Churchill defend the American Indian Movement back in the day, he also helped write a book documenting the FBI's terrorist plans against Native Americans and the New Left in COINTELPRO, a counter-intelligence program of assassination, harassment, and sabotage.<br><br>When CIA documents about their taking in Nazi Adolph Eichmann's assistants after WWII were about to surface early in 2005, the CIA-steered corporate press latched on to Ward Churchill's use of the expression "little Eichmanns" in an essay written on 9/11/01 to describe some of the CIA occupants of the WTC who died in order to point to both blowback of US terrorism and those responsible.<br><br>Fox TV and other Goebbels discibles jumped all over Churchill for weeks and thereby diverted the keyword 'Eichmann' to prevent the CIA's Nazi origins from coming to light in the eyes of Americans. The rest of the world is more aware of the US-German alliance after WWI that continues today.<br><br>Hijacking a key word with a counter story is a media tactic used in the info wars to prevent awareness of government crimes. <p></p><i></i>
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