Questions to ask ourselves and others.

by **Jerky** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:44 am

SO... Here we are, nearing the end of 2005, slouching headlong towards Year Six of Preznit Dubya's tragicomic and fraudulent reign. Wow. Feels kind of ridiculous, doesn't it? Like when you go for a walk in the woods behind your brother-in-law's house, only to somehow get turned around. And you can't remember which way you came from, so you stand there, arms akimbo, looking right, then left, pausing, squinting into the trees. And the only sound other than your breath is the cold wind blowing through late autumn's bare branches and piles of dead leaves. And the sun is going down almost as fast as the mercury. And you think back to when you were lacing up your boots not half an hour ago, and in a tone more annoyed than concerned you say to no one in particular: "How the fuck did this happen?!" Flash-forward a few hours -- past the first time you shouted "HELLO!!!" at the top of your lungs, past the time you thought you heard something big and predatory tracking you from far enough away that you'd never see it -- and annoyance has blossomed into uncontrollable panic. Lucky for you, after blindly stomping through the woods for an hour or so, you caught the sound of intermittent traffic and now you've located the road. You stumble through scrubby tangles of roadside brush in the freezing pitch-black night trying to wave down a highballing lumber truck, but the driver doesn't see you and the cold, wet blast of his tailwind almost bowls you over. But now, at least, you know where you are; you know you're through the worst of it. And you know that some Good Samaritan will be along soon enough, and you'll be able to hitch a ride. And even if you don't, worse come to worst, you can make your way home on foot. So you start walking. With any luck, that's what the American Electorate -- at least, the thinking portion of that rough beast -- is going to feel like in about three years, when they finally crawl over the jagged temporal deadfall bordering Preznit Dubya's Haunted Forest. And the question that will be on all our lips as we ponder our eight-year ordeal will be: "How the fuck did THAT happen?!" The increasingly obvious answer is: propaganda. But not just any old propaganda. We're talking about a program of information and image control so megalomaniacal in scope, so perversely plastic in its ever-shifting absolutes, it's as though the Powers That Be are engaged in a rolling "ultimate makeover" of reality itself, day by day by day. Dictionary.com defines propaganda as "the systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause." That's a broad and vague definition, and it fails to do justice to the art that the Creel Commission so successfully transformed into a sinister science during the lead up to the Great War. But for all their technocratic proficiencies, Lippman and Bernays didn't even come close to the sheer, unmitigated chutzpah displayed by the cabal of Straussian neocons currently weaving the national narrative from the commanding depths of their ebony dungeons. Look around you. There isn't a single aspect of American culture where their Lovecraftian tentacles haven't left tell-tale pucker scars to signal their authoritarian interference. Though there is not a warrior among them, they deign to lecture generals about the work of waging war. Though they play in the hurly-burly field of statecraft, they feel perfectly qualified to veto peer-reviewed conclusions reached by men of science, should these conclusions be anathema to their unyeilding ideologies. Though they exist in a billionaire-subsidized twilight of exalted entitlement, their economic prescriptions are embraced as infallible revelation. Though they have nothing but contempt for our evolving culture, they can't help but abuse their positions by attempting to steer it in a direction more amenable to their idealized notions of anesthetic historicism. Nothing, and no one, is immune from their meddling. Ask Jessica Lynch, or poor Pat Tillman's ghost. Ask Armstrong Williams about the quarter million dollars he received just to stand as a Bush-friendly negro in a field of open hostility, the exception that allows us to ignore the rule. Ask Judith Miller, the New York Times "journalist" who stands covered from head to toe in the blood of 2100 dead Americans, not to mention countless thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians who have perished in the illegal businessman's war of first resort she did so much to enable. Ask Kenneth Tomlinson, whose job it was to turn the ostensibly independent PBS and NPR into FOX News-style bullhorns for White House talking points. Ask the Pentagon flunky who funneled millions of dollars through an American PR firm to plant "fair and balanced" news items in the newly liberated Iraqi media. Then again, with more journalists killed so far in Iraq than during the entire 20 years America spent in Vietnam, maybe they have no choice but to create fake news. And finally, when you're done asking all these different questions of all these different people and groups, try asking yourself: "How the fuck did THAT happen?!" Because, like the 12-steppers say, the first step on the road to recovery is admitting you have a problem in the first place.

by **FourthBase** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:53 am

Best post I've ever read on this board. I will be asking everybody I know: How the fuck did THIS happen? There's still three years left before it's officially a "THAT".

by **Jerky** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:11 am

At least, on my own blog, where I can. :-) www.dirtfiles.com (check it out... there's a nifty graphic to go along with the editorial!)

by **slimmouse** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:39 am

"All eyes were closed, Nobody knows, How the world were unable to see that they were washed up failures My eyes are open, My love is strong, I am here to stay, and it will always be that way. Were in this together Together, Forever !"

by **Jerky** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:58 pm

Never listened to them much myself.

by **kermujin** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:18 pm

<clapping, standing ovation> What a great post! If you don't mind, I'm going to print this out and send it to an American friend of mine. (I'm a Canuck) Best, kermujin Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=kermujin>kermujin</A> at: 12/9/05 1:18 pm

by **Jerky** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:46 pm

By all means, feel free.

by **kermujin** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:42 pm

thanks!

by **banned** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:08 am

...took me a few minutes to figure it out <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

by **bamabecky** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:29 am

Your post is a great analogy........ <blockquote>Quote:<hr>But now, at least, you know where you are; you know you're through the worst of it.<hr></blockquote> But you are more optimistic than I. I do not know what they have in store for us tomorrow - or next year - up around the bend. I'm still panicky. And this road you just found? Nothing seems familiar here. Bama Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.

by **scollon** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:48 am

"Because, like the 12-steppers say, the first step on the road to recovery is admitting you have a problem in the first place" Sure but other people have known this since Vietnam or before. Americans are far too narcissistic to see themselves in a cold light. I just finished reading "On the Road" By Jack Kerouack for the third time. Dean Moriarty the main character that America got so excited about, that heralded the new beat generation was a real person and a literal psychopath. I hadn't noticed the first two times, but he is the archetypal American hero - a pleasure seeking, devil may care, exciting. manipulating con man, bastard. I googled my idea and someone who knew him expressed the same opinion. It's Edward Bernays and Madison Avenue, the ubiquitous pushing of dreams and distraction from reality, the con in other words that defines the United States and its values. Anyone who reads American advertising and doesn't look for the scam is going to be very disappointed. American should be made to read Catch 22 before they vote, or at least an abridged version with some of the less successful attempts at humor removed. They should also be deprogrammed of 'can do' positive thinking, it's so dangerous (think Iraq, Vietnam).

by **jamesredford** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:03 am

Others here said that they liked Jerky's above post which started this thread. I didn't like it. If one is going on about "neocons" as if their end-agenda is different than the end-agenda of the Democratic elite, or that they aren't actually on the same team (i.e., just two arms of the same beast), then one still is in the dark as concerns the praxis of rulership. The top-tier in the Democratic and Republican parties are totally controlled puppets of the globalist elite. The rhetoric might be slightly different, but the end-agenda is the same. (That agenda being a one-world totalitarian government with a one-world enforced religion, which the globalist elite call the New World Order). Reuters publicly acknowledges that the Bilderberg group of European royalty and international central bankers groomed Bill Clinton and Tony Blair for the U.S. Presidency and British Prime Ministry, respectively: "Secretive Bilderberg group to meet in Sweden," Peter Starck, Reuters, May 23, 2001: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/reuters_bilderberg.html Although the Clintons and the Bushes are long-time close family friends going back even before their drug-running operation in Mena, Arkansas. And John Kerry and Bushes Sr. and Jr. are all Bonesmen in the occult sociey of the Brotherhood of Death (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones at Yale), of which occult society was instrumental in the funding of Hitler and the Nazis. Bonesman Prescott Bush (Bush, Sr.'s father) had one of his banks and a number of his companies seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act for his financing of the Nazis even during wartime. It's also interesting to note that the skull and bones symbol used by the Brotherhood of Death is the same symbol worn on the Nazi SS uniform. For more information on the Bilderberg group, see the below news archive: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive_bilderberg.html See also: "Elite power brokers' secret talks," Emma Jane Kirby, BBC News, May 15, 2003: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3031717.stm "World government in action," Joseph Farah, WorldNetDaily.com, May 16, 2003: http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32606 "The masters of the universe," Pepe Escobar, Asia Times, May 22, 2003: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EE22Ak03.html And as the below BBC Radio report reveals, the European Union and the euro European Union single-currency were both secretly planned since the first Bilderberg meeting in 1954: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive_bilderberg.html BBC Bilderberg Report: European Union, Single Currency Planned Since 50's BBC uncovered incredible archived Bilderberg documents which confirmed that both the EU and the Euro were the brainchild of Bilderberg. ... "Club Class," Simon Cox, BBC Radio, July 3, 2003: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/bbc_radio_4_bilderberg.mp3 ---------- And with the black-box electronic voting, the ruling elite can simply punch in any numbers that they want, as they did in the 2004 U.S. Presidential election (of which the actual winner, Bonesman Kerry, was more than happy to roll over for his good buddies, the Bushes): "Science proves that vote fraud is real!," Joseph Cannon, April 2, 2005: http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/04/science-proves-that-vote-fraud-is-real.html "Analysis of the 2004 Presidential Election Exit Poll Discrepancies," Josh Mitteldorf, Ph.D., Kathy Dopp, MS mathematics, Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., Prof. Brian Joiner, Prof. Frank Stenger, Prof. Richard G. Sheehan, Paul F. Velleman, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Victoria Lovegren, Ph.D. Lecturer, Campbell B. Read, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Jonathan Simon, Ron Baiman, Bruce O'Dell, US Count Votes' National Election Data Archive Project, March 31, 2005: http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_2004_Edison-Mitofsky.pdf "The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., University of Pennsylvania, November 11, 2004: http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/Unexplained_exit_poll_discrep_v00l.pdf In "The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Dr. Steven F. Freeman says: "As much as we can say in social science that something is impossible, it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote counts in the three critical battleground states [Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania] of the 2004 election could have been due to chance or random error." The odds of those exit poll statistical anomalies occurring by chance are, according to Dr. Freeman, "250,000,000 to one." ############################### The problem isn't neocons, who Jerky calls Straussian, but who are also Trotskyists. They are just one symptom among many symptoms just as bad. Clinton had his U.S. government-staged Oklahoma City bombing. Franklin Roosevelt had his U.S. government-staged Pearl Harbor attack. And both towards the same end-goal (i.e., the globalists' self-termed New World Order, which can accurately be described as world socialism with a New Age enforced religion). The problem is *government*, per se. Once the fallacious rationale of *government* has been accepted, then this sets up a contradiction to liberty, of which the logical tendancy is to grow ever worse until the government collapses of its own weight due to its ravenous appetite yet having nothing more to eat, which was elaborated on by the British political philosopher, Auberon Herbert: "" A is to compel B to co-operate with him, or B to compel A; but in any case co-operation cannot be secured, as we are told, unless, through all time, one section is compelling another section to form a State. Very good; but then what has become of our system of Individualism? A has got hold of B, or B of A, and has forced him into a system of which he disapproves, extracts service and payment from him which he does not wish to render, has virtually become his master--what is all this but Socialism on a reduced scale? ... Believing, then, that the judgment of every individual who has not aggressed against his neighbour is supreme as regards his actions, and that this is the rock on which Individualism rests,--I deny that A and B can go to C and force him to form a State and extract from him certain payments and services in the name of such State; and I go on to maintain that if you act in this manner, you at once justify State-Socialism. "" (From Auberon Herbert and J. H. Levy, Taxation and Anarchism [London: The Personal Rights Association, 1912], pp. 2-3.) The globalists' self-termed New World Order is simply the the ethic of *government* (i.e., per se, in and of itself) taken to its logical conclusion. That logical conclusion being an existence wherein the government controls every aspect of an individual's life, from when or whether they are born, what they are required to think, what they are required to worship, whom they are required to submit to sex, to when they are required to die, and everything else in-between. Of course, such evil, having consumed everything, will only have itself left to consume--which it will. This world is a real-life morality play (made intentionally absurd, to better highlight the archetypes involved), to teach the children of God the value of liberty, the value of truth, and the value of genuine love; and to teach them what happens when they stray from that path. It's a real-life morality play with real consequences, in this life and in the next. And it will play itself out to its logical conclusion if the masses want it to, and right now it appears that the masses want it to. It's vitally important that the children of God learn this lesson and learn it well, as children eventually do grow up. ---------- For more information on many of the matters I have discussed in the above, please see the below articles by me: "Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," September 30, 2005: http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=libertyandtruth "Jesus Is an Anarchist," revised and expanded edition, November 9, 2005: http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/anarchist-jesus.pdf -- James Redford, jrredford@yahoo.com

by **Jerky** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:01 pm

James, are you seriously suggesting that there aren't any substantial qualitative differences between previous White House administrations and the one that is currently in power?

by **jamesredford** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:32 pm

Jerky wrote: "James, are you seriously suggesting that there aren't any substantial qualitative differences between previous White House administrations and the one that is currently in power?" Congratulations! That is exactly what I am saying. Neither of the top of the Democrat or Republican parties make their own agenda, but instead simply play their roles as they are required to by the globalist elite. It's every bit and more phoney than so-called "professional wrestling." Most of the Democrat and Republican top-tier are good buddies with each other, even to the point of considering each other family, such as is the case with the Clintons and the Bushes (which I suppose makes sense, as they actually are related via their royal blood; while Kerry and the Bushes are even more closely related). People don't tend to rebel if they think they have a meaningful choice, so the ruling elite have manufactured various phoney ideologies and political parties which all lead back to government control. So whichever choice the masses make among the options presented by the political establishment will still result in the masses continuing to be enslaved. The solution is not attempting to win at a rigged game. The solution is to not play the game. -- James Redford, jrredford@yahoo.com, http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/an ... -jesus.pdf

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:52 pm

I believe James is saying that this administration is merely accelerating a process going on for decades, the elimination of any check on abusive power as established by the Magna Carta 800 years ago and eventually the US Constitution and Bill of Rights 216 years ago. If so, I agree. A coalition of 'experts' and professional criminals have been in power for a long long time before the neocons and their mascot W. (Look up the Psychological Strategy Board signed into existence by Truman in 1951 and handed to the CIA to carry out mind control on Americans and everyone else. Lying For the State is an old industry and a National Security strategy in place for over half a century and constantly refined with massive budgets and scientific support. The internet is just a big lab for research and experimentation on manipulation which will give tools to custom tailor propaganda PER PERSON for better 'results.' What we call the 'media' is mostly a high tech Stability Operation which is the army's name for how to occupy a people and their region without resistance. We have been occupied since 1947 when Truman created the CIA which took over every institution in our country and kicked We the People out of our government. ) Fixation on W and this administration, while illuminating for those who needed the floodlight of vast atrocity to see, is myopic. Rather like focusing on the captain of the oil-spilling Valdez without taking into account the entire oil industry and 100 years of oil wars. The CIA and Pentagon have been doing exactly what they're doing now ever since WWII without any let up. Infiltrating, corrupting, stealing, killing, torturing, poisoning...what ever it takes to control a population and steal their goods and labor to invest in conquering the next target. And what middle class there once was to be used as buffer and management of the poor for the rich is no longer needed since psychological warfare has been salting the fields of community and justice for 60 years until very little of either can sprout or flourish anymore. Americans are isolated in their cars, at the end of driveways, in front of their media toys, downloading and upgrading and outsourcing their very own life experiences to CIA-engineered emotion matrixes. The US government successfully breeds fascists as intended, atleast enough to perpetuate fascism which requires less effort to sustain as more of it is instututionalized legally and culturally. Our challenge is to let people know this human resource WMD is being scientifically created like so many Frankensteins so that the antidote can be vigorously bred and nurtured for resistance and eventual displacement of the fascists. We still vastly out number them and it is still possible for humanity to win. (Cue the 'Metropolis' soundtrack.) Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 12/10/05 6:06 pm

Questions to ask ourselves and others.

Questions to ask ourselves and others.

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You've convinced me to edit the last line of my post.

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I'd be flattered, kermujen

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Great post, and great screen name too....

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