Should I take this class on conspiracies?

by **FourthBase** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:41 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>One of the major reasons Id be laughing so hard of course, is because that would be a "release valve" to stop me from accusing him of being either a lying SOAB, or telling the fella to Wake TFU.<hr></blockquote> Well, he's obviously of the lying SOAB variety. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Anderson had little evidence to support his hypothesis, although he suggested that terrorists being held at the base in Guantanimo Bay be tested for amygdala damage.<hr></blockquote> It'll be tough for me, I have a hard time not throwing shit at my TV. But I want to see what it's like, and I want to get a decent grade in some class, and a class on conspiracies will certainly hold my attention. I think what might get me through will be visiting this board after every class. I'll report on how it's going, relay any interesting developments or class material, and you guys can offer input. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

by **mother** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:58 pm

Only about $550.00 for a class? What are you waiting for, sign up while there's space. You are so lucky to have that access, take advantage of it, and then come here and share your insights.

by JD » Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:33 pm

That would be beyond entertaining. The irony is dripping. A conspiracy nut from the "mainstream" teaching a course disparging the views of competing conspiracies. If you do elect to take it, which I'd highly encourage, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT and simply soak up the junk put out. No sense challenging the Prof in any way as he's views will be thoroughly cemented against yours. If at all possible, take good notes, tape the lectures, and put them up for us all to enjoy! Our objective has to be to get real information into the minds of people who are not committed to "mainstream conspiracies".

by **mother** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:50 pm

And we expect you to get an A, if they still give A's.

by **israelirealities** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:46 pm

taping the lectures is a very good idea, especially if you take the time to ask questions during the class where the doctor will have to spontaneously respond, and be less guarded and planned. Another idea is to organize demonstrations against him on campus. The man is a racist and if what is written on his behalf is indeed what he said, there should be some university complaint board, under hate speech and racism, plus challenging his academic capacity. (I am refering to the posts here about his "terrorist theory". ) PErsonally, I think these people are the real menace to society, more than ZUndels of sorts (they talk, and he DOING the harm). HArvard U. had a bit of a scandal with their president talking nonesense about women. Maybe they don't need the bad publicity and will get rid of him, especially if he is only a guest lecturer. Shame on HArvard.

by JD » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:05 pm

Of course though you'd want to "get the goods" on the guy first via taping. Some well thought out strategic questions which would not tip your hand but get him to say things he would come to regret would add to the amusement factor, not to mention being potentially useful in the future! My point would be don't go in an oppositional way and you'll get more out of the course. BTW maybe our community should be thinking of operations like this on a broader scale?

by **hmm** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:32 pm

discussion of strategy and taping and using words like operations is stupid in the extreme. its one thing to passively observe,even to comment on events in the public domain,but to become active players, to openly discuss, to conspire even... i am not a lawyer but as a long time observer of events i know this thread is crossing a few lines that should not be crossed. are you really ready and fully prepared for the ramifications of becoming a "non-state-actor". I know it all sounds exciting in a schoolboy kind of way, but have any of you now discussing this really absorbed the full horror of what happens to people who accidentally get involved (as discussed in length on this site).

by **FourthBase** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:28 pm

I'm intrigued by the idea of taping the lectures. But as far as I know, it's against the rules. I guess I'd have to go to a spy-technology store, too. What could I buy that will enable me to record the class? My default is to not even try, to just take good notes. But I'm open to the idea, if the technology is cheap and undetectable. EDIT: I have decided permanently against taping. As far as my approach, I'm going to be neutral. If there are times when I can question some of the material with documented facts, then I will do that. But I have no intention of being the class's pissant. And every intention of getting an A! My focus will be simply to study what's given, and report back to you guys. What I want to do in preparation for the class is compile a mini-encyclopedia of the best-documented evidence of conspiracy. E.g., I want to have a list of CIA/FBI/military operations like COINTELPRO, CHAOS, Northwoods, Cirrus, Stormfury, Mockingbird, etc. I want to memorize the names involved in the FMSF/Paidika links. And so on... I can really use everyone's help with that, maybe soon we can compile everything in a thread on the Data Dump forum. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 11/24/05 5:36 pm

by **FourthBase** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:29 pm

Hmm scared me. Taping the lectures is out of the question now. I'm just going to be an observant student. I will ask you guys for help, and let you guys know how the class goes, but I will not be "spying" on the class. The idea of citizens spying on the government was almost tongue-in-cheek, because as far as I know, citizens have the right to know what their government is up to, and it's a reflection on how fucked up our country is that citizens would have to "spy" on their government. But Hmm raises a good point, people are picked off all the time for just accidentally getting in the way or knowing too much, so anyone who wants to be a parapolitical activist or even just a good citizen needs to be careful. Think. Think again. And again. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 11/24/05 5:02 pm

by **FourthBase** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:30 pm

First off, I thought it was this guy: <a href="http://spec.lib.vt.edu/archives/blackhistory/grads/1970.html">spec.lib.vt.edu/archives/.../1970.html</a> <img src="http://spec.lib.vt.edu/archives/blackhistory/grads/images/andersonw70.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Same name, psychology, Virginia. But alas, the William Henry Anderson whose class I will attend is this guy: http://www.dce.harvard.edu/pubs/lamplighter/2000/fall/anderson.html <img src="http://www.dce.harvard.edu/pubs/lamplighter/2000/fall/images/anderson.jpg" style="border:0;"/> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>If you enrolled in Dr. William Anderson's psychology course in 1984, you found yourself vicariously in such hostile physical environments. That course, Psychophysiology of Extreme Environments, included study of semistarvation, exposure to high-level noise, and even sensory deprivation. But through the years, the course's focus has shifted gradually from physical to social settings, examining very different, but equally stressful, environments--living amid insidious rumors, witchcraft manias, financial crashes, or severe political repression.<hr></blockquote> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>In his course, Anderson does not shy away from tackling current, as well as historic, issues. When child abuse in daycare centers emerged as a social issue, most students and the general public became outraged over this pervasive depravity. Following the premise in his course, Anderson urged caution about the allegations, pointing out how quickly things could go out of control. His students responded with dismay; their instructor seemed dismissive of reprehensible behavior. Later, when the problem shifted to the widespread false accusations, Anderson suddenly found himself on the other side of the issue, urging caution at taking this belief to the extreme. "Now wait a minute," he heard himself saying to a new group of students, "the problem of child abuse is still with us."<hr></blockquote> His articles about Terry Shiavo: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/390mvxiz.asphttp://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten ... y.asp?pg=1 Article of his on the "War Against Islamic Fascism": http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/17/opinion/main782382.shtml Article on the cross-country commuter to Anderson's class: http://www.dce.harvard.edu/pubs/lamplighter/1996/fall/commute.html Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 11/26/05 10:32 am

by **Col Quisp** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:46 pm

Since when is taping a lecture verboten? In my day, lots of students taped lectures because they couldn't take good notes. Oh well, times change!

by **FourthBase** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:00 pm

Well, perhaps I will ask the school for permission. I do have a mild case of ADHD, so it would actually help me.

by **proldic** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:01 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>$550 is totally worth it to me. I'm in a situation where I just need to use my brain. I don't exactly have a chosen career. Unless gadfly counts as a career.<hr></blockquote> I hope you don't flip out and take this all personal, but have you ever given much thought to how much this "reality" of yours effects your ability to analyze LIFE, PEOPLE, everyday politics, not to mention deep politics? The fact is, every single time in a big way. Listen, if you're in Massachusetts, there's PLENTY to do. Your $550 (or more) of knowledge could be capitalized much better elsewhere, rather than contributing to Harvard's endowment. Such as the recent coalition-based signature gathering ($1 per) campaign against redistricting. You know what redistricting's about, right? And how fighting it it is INTEGRAL to progressive change. To roll back gerrymandering in the birth place of gerrymandering, is no 2-bit waste of time. Ex: If every armchair academic Massachusetts leftist that went down to Camp Casey, or "gadflyed" at Harvard would have spent just 1 weekend down at their local supermarket gathering signatures over the last 2 months, RADICAL fucking change would have occurred in your state. And there's plenty more wood to chop. It's that simple.

by **FourthBase** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:10 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I hope you don't flip out and take this all personal, but have you ever given much thought to how much this "reality" of yours effects your ability to analyze LIFE, PEOPLE, everyday politics, not to mention deep politics? The fact is, every single time in a big way.<hr></blockquote> This "reality of mine"? It's reality, period - isn't it? Or did I wander onto a different board? There are good people who will get those signatures. I will add my name to their list of signatures. They will play that role, and I will play mine. Which I am trying to figure out. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 11/26/05 11:13 am

by **proldic** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:17 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>It's reality, period - isn't it?<hr></blockquote> not even close... <blockquote>Quote:<hr>They will play that role, and I will play mine.<hr></blockquote> It would be nice if we could bust out of that mold for once... in fact it'd be more than nice Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=proldic@rigorousintuition>proldic</A> at: 11/26/05 11:17 am

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