Jonesing on conspiracy theories (another Prof Jones article)

by **orz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:36 pm

st4, nice work completely proving nomo's point! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tired.gif ALT="|I"> Please, take a step back and look at how you're presenting the info.... e-yelling 'BOOM BOOM BOOM LOL' at people isn't gonna convince anyone of anything. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/indifferent.gif ALT=":|">

by **st4** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:50 pm

Whatever dude.. er... I mean Orz. LOL. I've already debated these government shills/clowns extensively on this board and many other boards about controlled demo at the WTC. And yes, I wrote shill. I know it's against board rules, but that's what they are, shills. Knowingly or not. If Jeff bans me I really don't give a fu@k anymore. The 9-11 cover-up is waaaaaay past the stage of posting on internet message boards anyway.

by **Qutb** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:55 pm

Elaboration: Some knight in shining armor isn't going to appear out of nowhere with explosive evidence that proves that everything we've been told and everything everyone's been believing is one big lie. If you keep hoping for one, and believing in those who purport to be one, you'll just get disappointed. You won't see headlines screaming "Towers brought down with explosives - Bush arrested today". Or "Pentagon hit by drone - new evidence proves it". It's not going to happen. 30 years from now, you'll still be pulling your hair in frustration: "Damn sheeple, why can't they see!? The official version is IMPOSSIBLE!!". Don't say I didn't warn you.

by **st4** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:05 pm

What are you talking about? The government shills/clowns at MSNBC didn't show the collpase of Building 7 when Prof. Jones was on out of fear that millions of their viewers would believe... that the freaking buildings were brought down by controlled demo! Duh!

by **orz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:06 pm

Wow, i've made the big time now, I've been called a shill! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> (I think?) Well, too bad; I'm not one. And I'm sure you're not either - all I'm saying is step back and look how you're presenting yourself, in order to make sure you don't have the same effect as one. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The government shills/clowns at MSNBC <hr></blockquote>...don't need to literally be shills to stifle dissent, any more than people you literally need to be one to give 'conspiricy theorists' a bad name with angry messageboard rants that only preach to the choir, and personal attacks on people who don't nesseccarily even disagree with you. Any party involved may literally be a clown tho. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=orz@rigorousintuition>orz</A> at: 11/22/05 3:10 pm

by **nomo** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:12 pm

"The 9-11 cover-up is waaaaaay past the stage of posting on internet message boards anyway." Sure. It's being covered in right-wing newspapers, promoted by a Mormon university professor and other such respectable groups. The only good I see coming from this, hopefully, is that the CD/no-plane/pod/hologram theories will now be associated with groups that are wrong on pretty much every other issue as well. There is real research to be done. Showing us the same old blurry videos and shouting "boom boom boom" is not part of that.

by **st4** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:13 pm

Orz. Please shut the fu@k up. You don't know me. So please spare me the lecture.

by **orz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:13 pm

... no arguement containing "LOL" "OMG" or the word 'sheeple' will ever do anything but turn people away. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"> (not directed at you personally, i don't think you've used 'sheeple' yet? <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> )

by **st4** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:16 pm

Please turn away then.

by **orz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:17 pm

Of course I don't know you, that's my whole point!!! All i know is your words, and they're having the opposite effect that I imagine you'd like them to, that's my whole point! (...thinking about it, my having a go at 'LOL' etc is a bit rich coming from someone who's username IS an emoticon, I'll admit! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"> )

by **st4** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:26 pm

Nomo wrote: promoted by a Mormon university professor  Now THAT'S rich. Let's see your credentials Nomo. Here are Professor Jones': <a href="http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/bergeson/physics1/atomic/jones_cv.htm">www.physics.byu.edu/facul...nes_cv.htm</a> Full Professor Department of Physics and Astronomy Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 BIOGRAPHICAL: Birthdate: 25 March 1949 Citizenship: USA Telephone: (801) 378-2749 EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE: Graduated from Bellevue High School, Bellevue, Washington, with 4.0 scholastic average (A=4.0) in 1967. B.S. in Physics, Mathematics minor, magna cum laude with honors, from Brigham Young University in 1973, retaining Presidential (David O. McKay) Scholarship. Ph.D. in Physics, Mathematics/Electronics minors from Vanderbilt University in 1978, retaining full Tuition Scholarship and Research Fellowship (1973-197<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> . Ph.D. research conducted at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center (1974-1977); course work completed at Stanford University. Post-doctoral research conducted at Cornell University (CESR) and the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility. Conducted research at the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, EG & G Idaho, Idaho Falls, 1979-1985 (Senior Engineering Specialist). Principal Investigator for experimental muon-catalyzed fusion 1982-1991 for the U.S. Department of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects. Spokesman for LAMPF Experiment #727 and co-spokesman for LAMPF Experiments #963 and #1151 (1982 - 1993). Collaborator in several other experiments, including experiments at TRIUMF (Vancouver, Canada), The National High Energy Laboratory, KEK (Tsukuba, Japan), Rutherford-******on Laboratory (Oxford, U.K.), and Kamioka, Japan. Associate Director, Brigham Young University Center for Fusion Studies, 1989-1994 Search for fusion in condensed matter and deuterium, research for U.S. Department of Energy (May 1986 - December 1991) and for the Electric Power Research Institute (April 1990-June 1993). AWARDS David O. McKay Scholarship at Brigham Young University, 1968 National Merit Scholar, 1968 Tuition Scholarship and Research Fellowship at Vanderbilt University, 1973-1978 Outstanding Young Scholar Award (BYU), 1989 Best of What's New for 1989 (Popular Science), 1989 Creativity Prize (Japanese Creativity Society), 1989 BYU Young Scholar Award (BYU), 1990 Annual Lecturer BYU Chapter of Sigma Xi (1990-1991)

by **nomo** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:35 pm

Now THAT'S rich. Let's see your credentials Nomo.  I'm a Web developer and a musician. I'm not an engineer, but then neither is professor Jones. So, that makes me just as qualified as the good professor to have an opinion on these matters. The fact remains that Jones does not offer a single piece of new "evidence", he has zero expertise in engineering or building demolition, he's employed by a creepy right-wing religious cult, and enthusiastically promoted by far-right news outlets. Don't know 'bout you, but stuff like that makes me pause and think.

by **Qutb** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:35 pm

wow, lots of structural engineering and controlled demolition experience in that cv. Talking of impossibility: It's absolutely 100% impossible to demolish a building with explosives in front of the cameras of all the tv networks and then make the entire scientific "community" except the usual few right-wing whackos, in addition to the entire controlled demolition "community", believe it was caused by a plane. Cannot be done. Simple as that.

by **st4** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:42 pm

So you're saying that Physics has nothing to do with the way those buildings fell? LOL. You're a charade "dude". But if it makes ya feel better: "If you've seen many of the managed demolitions where they implode a building and they cause it to essentially to fall vertically because they cause all of the vertical columns to fail simultaneously, that's exactly what it looked like and that's what happened" - Matthys Levy, Structural Engineer and co author of Why buildings Fall Down Video: <a href="http://www.freepressinternational.com/discovery.html">www.freepressinternationa...overy.html</a> Why WTC Steel Towers Collapsed at One Blow September 20, 2001 english.people.com.cn Professor Shi Yongjiu, director of civil engineering department of Qinghua University and an expert on steel structure, guesses that the lower part of the WTC twin towers may got seriously damaged. According to steel structure's mechanical nature, the towers shouldn't collapse as late as an hour later after the planes slammed into. What's more, it should be in a way to topple over gradually instead of crashing down as seen in videotapes. It looks more like a directional blast in doing the job of destruction, so he feels that huge damages must have been done at the lower part of the towers. Link to article: <a href="http://english.people.com.cn/english/200109/20/eng20010920_80655.html">english.people.com.cn/eng...80655.html</a> Explosives Planted in Towers, New Mexico Tech Expert Says Albuquerque Journal, September, 2001 "My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse "It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like that "It could have been a relatively small amount of explosives placed in strategic points - Van Romero, Vice President for Research and Economic Development at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology and a major authority on the effects of explosions on buildings (Romero has since retracted his statement, saying "Certainly the fire is what caused the building to fail."). Original Link to quote <a href="http://www.abqjournal.com/aqvan09-11-01.htm">www.abqjournal.com/aqvan09-11-01.htm</a> Archived link of Romero's quote: <a href="http://www.world-action.co.uk/explosives.html">www.world-action.co.uk/explosives.html</a> New Mexico Tech Explosives Expert 'Flip-Flops' On WTC Controlled Demo Theory; Refuses To Explain Why <a href="http://news.baou.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=20284">news.baou.com/main.php?ac...&rid=20284</a> Romero receives promotion soon after he recants his "bombs brought down the WTC" statements - January 11, 2002: <a href="http://infohost.nmt.edu/mainpage/news/2002/11jan05.html">infohost.nmt.edu/mainpage...jan05.html</a> Romero appointed Co-Chair to the Presidential Advisory Commission on Educational Excellence for Hispanic Americans: <a href="http://www.yic.gov/paceea/adcom/bios.html">www.yic.gov/paceea/adcom/bios.html</a> Taking a Closer Look: Hard Science and the Collapse of the World Trade Center by David Heller BS: Physics Bard College MA: S. F. Inst. Architecture Architect and Builder <a href="http://www.garlicandgrass.org/issue6/Dave_Heller.cfm">www.garlicandgrass.org/is...Heller.cfm</a>

by **orz** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:49 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> "dude"<hr></blockquote> you seem to be implying that various of us here on the board are the same person as whoever referred to you as 'dude' previously!? That's pretty odd.

Jonesing on conspiracy theories (another Prof Jones article)

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