Missing Explosives from New Mexico Co. with Govt. contracts.

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bullshit points

Postby firstimer » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:18 am

That is the biggest bunch of krap the US Gov. ever paid for. I bet the guy never even rode the subway before. We have demonstrated that any shutdown of subway can shut the entire city down in a day. All he can say about NY SUBS is some obscure firebomb in '94?<br><br>Looks like a "we never imagined it" scenario. Citing false flag operations for research on damage and security assessment is military masturbation, all of the wrong weaknesses will be put forth for reform just like 9/11. <br><br>I'm going to sleep before I get mad<br><br>goodnight and good luck<br><br>firstimer <p></p><i></i>
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Re: bullshit points

Postby GDN01 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:48 am

I agree - when I looked over Cherry's presentation I thought it looked like an 8th grade book report. I wondered what in the hell it was supposed to accomplish. And if this is the world's leading expert in the field - there's an occupation waiting for someone! <br><br>And I sure don't feel safer knowing Cherry Engineering is advising our govt. on how to make Amerka safer when Chris Cherry can't even keep his own damn explosives secure. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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GDN01, I don't have a link

Postby Asta » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:27 am

I'm just an eye witness to ABC News on TV. Sometimes I wish I had the $$$ to integrate my computer to the television and record this stuff to upload so I can show others what I saw. <br><br>But I know what I saw, and what I saw was pure incompetence. And to think that Cherry was awarded a $5,000 bonus for his excellent work by Homeland Security. Makes me wonder.<br><br>I really believe we're being set up for a Reightstag Event (did I spell that right?) <p></p><i></i>
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Re: GDN01, I don't have a link

Postby sunny » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:15 am

Regretfully, I cannot help thinking that all the speculative dot-connecting here might be right. Look for the "incident" to occur very soon, before they force the union to capitulate, as PTB are working thuggishly to accomplish.<br><br>Too many coincidences-Cherry a darling of DHS, subway shutdown, stolen explosives, Cherry's "presentation", and a real need, RIGHT NOW, in light of all the setbacks, for Bushco to justify itself and grab more power.<br><br>This could be the catalyst for blatant tyranny, a sure way to throw the fundies into paroxisms of joy. The end is near. <p></p><i></i>
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Dots

Postby Col Quisp » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:32 pm

Yet another subway strike is imminent: London tubeworkers are saying they will strike on New Years' Eve. What if both NY's and London's systems are seeded with these missing explosives while they are shut down with no one guarding the entrances? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Dots

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:48 pm

That crater-making truck explosion a few months ago also belonged to a company with Defense contracts I believe..<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Truck_carrying_explosives_crashes,_explodes_in_Utah">en.wikinews.org/wiki/Truc...es_in_Utah</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The company, Ensign-Bickford, was apparently involved in Mine manufacturing..<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/mines/IV.2.recalcitrant.html">www.hrw.org/campaigns/min...trant.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Letter from Ensign-Bickford Industries, Inc. President Herman J. Fonteyne to Human Rights Watch, August 7, 1996. DoD awarded Ensign-Bickford landmine production contracts worth $15,085,000 in 1989-92. Eagle Eye Publishing, 1996. Contract No. DAAA21-C92-C-0039 (May 13, 1992), obtained by Human Rights Watch under the Freedom of Information Act, shows that Ensign-Bickford was awarded $6.8 million to supply components for Volcano landmines. The components were shipped to army ammunition plants in Iowa and Texas.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>edit: Read that one wrong, it appears that Volcano ladmines are anti-tank devices. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A> at: 12/22/05 11:50 am<br></i>
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A little photo of that crater

Postby Asta » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:16 pm

at this link <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://sltrib.com/ci_2932207">sltrib.com/ci_2932207</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>(BTW, how do you guys upload images?) <p></p><i></i>
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Update

Postby GDN01 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:36 pm

According to this <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.thenewmexicochannel.com/news/5606179/detail.html">article</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> it is possible that the explosives were removed from the premises as much as 5 days before they were reported stolen. And while there were several trailers at the site, and it sounds like trailers from various companies, only the ones from Cherry Engineering were broken in to, the ones with the explosives. Again, it sounds like an inside job. Someone who knew what and where, and how.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The report explained that thieves with blowtorches melted away the locks that were securing several trailers.<br><br>There are 16 trailers on the property.<br><br>Special agent Tom Mangan said the thieves only stole from Cherry Engineering, Inc.<br><br>"There were other acts of vandalism on the site, the theft was from Mr. Cherry's two explosive magazines," said Mangan. "That's where all the explosives, high explosives, were taken from."<br><br>The report also said the explosives could have been stolen any time between Dec. 10 and Dec. 18.<br><br>After a more thorough investigation, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms said there was only a five-day window for the culprits.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Coincidence?

Postby GDN01 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:54 pm

This story caught my eye and made me wonder if there is a connection. In October, a couple of vials of radioactive material went "missing". They came from an unnamed company in Albuquerque - just as Cherry Engineering was not named in most reports. The article says it was not enough material to create a dirty bomb, and there's no reason to believe this material was taken by terrorists. (again, that odd assurance given when there is no way for them to know this - unless they know who stole the material to begin with.)<br><br>I'm just beginning to look at this info, and there may be no connection at all. But I'm really curious as to which company the material belonged to, and if it has connections to Sandia Labs, Cherry Engineering, or the military/govt. <br><br>Here is the <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/11/24/dirty_bomb_threat_from_vials_dismissed/">story</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There's no indication that the missing antimony-124, which disappeared during a trip across Texas this month, is in the hands of terrorists. However, no one knows who has it or where it might be despite searches by the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and, most recently, the government's top nuclear emergency team.<br>...<br><br>Meanwhile, officials in New Mexico, where the shipment originated, and in Texas, its destination, still say the missing material might be in the other state.<br><br>''There's still some degree of possibility that it wasn't packed [in Albuquerque] in the first place," said Doug McBride, spokesman for the Texas Department of State Health Services.<br><br>But Adam Rankin, spokesman for the New Mexico Environment Department, said interviews, records, and videotapes show that it was properly shipped from a company in Albuquerque on Oct. 31.<br><br>''All indications are that it made it onto the shipment and into Texas," Rankin said.<br><br>Antimony-124 is used as a tracer in oil and gas exploration.<br><br>The missing vials, with a total of a quarter-cup of the liquid, were supposed to be packed inside heavy lead containers, which were then to be put in a sand-filled ammunition box. The box, in turn, was supposed to go into a 20-gallon metal drum that was then sealed for shipping.<br><br>When the shipment arrived in Kilgore on Nov. 3, the original outside seal on one drum was intact, but the drum was empty. The shipment had stops in Abilene, Austin, Dallas, and Tyler, officials said.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Who needs fiction when reality is this much fun?

Postby GDN01 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:27 pm

Here we go....<br><br>The Albuquerque company is Pro Technics, their <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.corelab.com/protechnics/default.asp">website</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> says this:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>ProTechnics, a Core Lab Production Enhancement division, is dedicated to providing the energy industry with state-of-the-art completion diagnostic services designed to maximize oil recovery and to enhance production. ProTechnics processes and places more radioactive tracers in oilfield procedures than any other company.<br><br>ProTechnics Company was founded in 1983 as a service company dedicated to providing state-of-the-art radioactive tracing services to the energy industry. Operating out of fifteen domestic locations and in more than 20 countries around the world, ProTechnics provides complete design, field engineering, and completion diagnostic services to clients in virtually every major producing basin of the world.<br>...<br>SpectraTek Services, a wholly owned subsidiary in Albuquerque, New Mexico, packages and ships radioactive isotopes to ProTechnics, as well as other oilfield service companies around the world.<br><br>In 1995, ProTechnics acquired the Tracerscan spectral gamma ray logging technology from Halliburton. The tool has been adapted to run as a self-contained memory service, SpectraScan®, which can be deployed via slickline, electric wireline, washpipe, or coiled tubing. The SpectraScan® Image provides the most complete wellbore image available. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>A Halliburton connection! Kinda reaching, I know. But we all know who has Halliburton connections... <p></p><i></i>
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It Blowed Up. Looked Real. Looked Good. Looked Real Good!

Postby Floyd Smoots » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:05 pm

Could the truckful of explosives headed for Oklahoma have been aiming for the new federal building in Oklahoma City? Naw, even a ol' dumb collige-eddjakated redneck lahk me wouldn' buy that bucket o' fishbait. 'N' radio active stuff missin'? How'na hell'm ah 'spose ta lissen ta Howerd Sternned naow???<br><br>Kin ah re-quote Randy Quaid agin' heer?? "They's gonna Kill us ALL!!!!!!!". 'Least, thas whut ah thanks thier figgerin' ta doo!!<br><br>the Smootinater <br>Y'all come back now Y'hear?<br><br>Pee Ess, duz dis meen Ah shuld sell mah Halibut stock??<br>Jis' kiddin', ah don' evun own no stock 'cept mah critters!!!<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: It Blowed Up. Looked Real. Looked Good. Looked Real Good

Postby GDN01 » Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:20 am

Is there a point to your blathering? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Missing Explosives from New Mexico Co. with Govt. contra

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:54 pm

Looks like someone's been arrested for the theft:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/24/explosives.theft.ap/index.html">www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/2...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (AP) -- Authorities arrested four men and were searching for one more person in connection with the theft of 400 pounds of explosives from a storage depot.<br><br>Federal authorities said the explosives are enough to flatten a large building.<br><br>All of the explosives and detonating materials were recovered, and there was no evidence to suggest the theft was connected to terrorism, said Wayne Dixie of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.<br><br>Two brothers, Leslie Brown, 44, of Ignacio, Colorado, and David Brown, 49, of Bloomfield, New Mexico, face federal charges that include possession of stolen explosives and felons in possession of explosives, Dixie said.<br><br>Authorities gave few other details, including the names of the other two people arrested Friday. A tip led to the arrests.<br><br>"Investigators are still interviewing these people that are involved so we don't have all the answers yet," Dixie said.<br><br>The explosives were reported missing Sunday from Cherry Engineering's storage depot eight miles southwest of Albuquerque. Stolen were 150 pounds of C-4, 250 pounds of sheet explosives, 20,000 feet of detonator cord and 2,500 blasting caps.<br><br>The explosives were intact and it did not appear that anyone had tried to use the material, authorities said. Authorities said the brothers did not have experience to use the explosives.<br><br>Investigators said they were continuing a search of a storage facility south of Bloomfield, where most of the explosives were found. Some of the material also was found in Ignacio and another location in Bloomfield.<br><br>Bernalillo County Sheriff Darren White said there was a "collective sigh of relief" when authorities were notified that the explosives had been located.<br><br>Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Missing Explosives from New Mexico Co. with Govt. contra

Postby GDN01 » Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:18 pm

Very interesting - why would people without the experience needed to use the explosives, steal them?<br><br>And what are the names of the other two people? <p></p><i></i>
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stolen explosives

Postby mother » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:22 am

Earlier in this thread I wanted to say that I thought it might be a "monkey wrench gang" kind of thing done by idealists, I think it was the way the break-in was done that got my hopes up. The fact that the theives don't know how to use them makes me even more hopeful. Or else they could have been stealing them for someone who does know how to use them, of course. But wouldn't it be nice if there actally were guys running around thwarting disasters? <p></p><i></i>
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