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Re: Cabals

Postby antiaristo » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:17 pm

Aren't cabals sovereign?<br><br>Aren't you implying choice?<br><br>Does that square with the Oath of Allegiance sworn by George Bush to Queen Elizabeth II? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Cabals

Postby slimmouse » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:22 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Does that square with the Oath of Allegiance sworn by George Bush to Queen Elizabeth II?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> So, once again we have the means for all of the above.<br><br> I think Quentin explained the motive.<br><br> How about opportunity ? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Cabals

Postby Darklo » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:30 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Aren't cabals sovereign?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>No, a cabal is defined by the secrecy and shared goals of a number of indivuduals, not their roles or allegiances within and to society.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Does that square with the Oath of Allegiance sworn by George Bush to Queen Elizabeth II?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Probably had his fingers crossed at the time. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Another guy with bullets to the head.

Postby zjurhgvc » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:31 pm

Well, if you want extrememly deep power structures, and I mean centuries of continuity in black ops, my candidates would be the 'Catholic Church' and the 'City of London'--understanding these to represent investment capital/occult/Christian/imperialist/possibly bloodline-oriented conglomerations. Freemasonry has often been mentioned, because it has been used so often as cover for revolutionary movements (and that is, indeed, what we are experiencing right now--the birth of a New World Order by men and women with 'fire in their minds').<br><br>Of course, the Chinese secret societies are centuries-deep and based in extended family networks. Sterling Seagrave's 'Lords of the Rim' is an excellent primer. But the overseas Chinese are implicated in many of the US's projects in Asia, and their massive capital has poured back into China since Deng, with admirable results.<br><br>Probably the most amazing claims to contuinity and influence are held by the Garduna of Spain--1200 years--including being the secret police of the Inquisition; birthing the Sicilian Mafia and Carbonari; spreading to the Americas in the 1800s; 20th-century Fascism in Spain (Franco) and elsewhere; Opus Dei. Even if we discount their claims to be descended from those who fought against the Moors, they still have 500 years of continuous existence (at least from the beginning of the Inquisition).<br><br>The point about the Garduna, and another group, the Knights of Malta (SMOM), is that they always thought and continue to think of themselves as Holy Warriors, soldiers of Christ--very much like the heavily SMOM-weighted CIA during the height of the Cold War. Indeed, that's a large part of what the War on Communism was all about; today, we hear less about Catholics and more about Fundamentalist Xtians, but they're out there for the same reasons. And, as we know from the Templars, capitalism is also a big part of what they do. People often forget that the origins of modern international finance capitalism were with Templars--the Jews were used as scapegoats, of course, but they have only very recently been remade into Holy Warriors themselves.<br><br>In terms of corporate globalism, I tend to see the Wall Street-City of London finance capital nexus as at the top of the pyramid. In this I definitely follow Quigley--so in a sense I guess I see the continuity of the ages-old priest/warrior equation (Mitra-Varuna); banks, temples...what's the difference? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Cabals

Postby Qutb » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:39 pm

" don't think any of these can be pinned on one specific group. I don't believe in an over-arcing Illuminati/NWO group who pull all the strings. I just don't believe the world operates that way - although there are many here who possibly disagree.<br><br>However I do believe in cabals - whether political, intelligence agency or 'secret society' based - whose modus operandi, beliefs and goals often overlap and who will pool resources, intelligence and cover-ups in order to fufill shared agendas."<br><br>I agree. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I guess in the deeper scheme of things...

Postby slimmouse » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:41 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Well, if you want extrememly deep power structures, and I mean centuries of continuity in black ops, my candidates would be the 'Catholic Church' and the 'City of London'<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br> I guess, in the deeper scheme of things, you are explaining organised religion and greed as a means.<br><br> That should of course be a given to the average RI individual.<br> <br> But in compliance with the general posit of this thread, what are your thoughts ? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 3/8/06 7:45 pm<br></i>
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Re: Cabals

Postby slimmouse » Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:20 pm

But with respect to you both.<br><br> we already have established motive ( greed, control ), and opportunity ( do I really need to articulate ? )<br><br> And of course, courtesy of enshrined law, we have the legal means.<br><br> Which of course leaves us with little more than the question of a practical method of enforcing the legal means. <br><br> Greed, gullibility, and general ignorance to how the big wigs play the game courtesy of enrolling certain individuals ( usually people with intelligence and promise ) into key positions.<br><br> Preying on their natural instincts ( good ) and trust, as to their self- worthiness in their enrolment.<br><br> Sure, they go thru some kind of Tie dragging, One pant leg up ceremony. But thats all part of the fun right ? David Icke would beg to differ, but then again hes just some kind of "conspiracy nut"<br><br> And always remember all, we do need "Ordo abs Chao" right ? Believe it or not, I actually agree. I just dont like what that "ordo" generally involves for the rest of humanity.<br><br> There are any number of threads indicating how this is accomplished - Pictures too. These people are indeed arrogant to the extreme.<br><br> But of course thats all just mad conspiracy theory.<br><br> Right !<br><br> On edit ; couldnt resist adding this little addition from the comments in Jeffs blog ;<br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/DC.html">home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/DC.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> I know, I know, its only a few dumb pics.<br><br> All that said, I think Im closer to filling in my questionnaire ( posted elsewhere now ) <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 3/8/06 10:23 pm<br></i>
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Teacher, Smack dat Boye!!!

Postby Floyd Smoots » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:05 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"Ordo abs Chao"<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I believe it's Ordo ab Chaos, but sometimes, I's jis' uh Pit-Nicker!!! Erstwise, slim-bo, preach on, preach on!!!!!!!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I guess in the deeper scheme of things...

Postby thumperton » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:12 am

why was MLK killed? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: For the usual reasons.

Postby slimmouse » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:18 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>why was MLK killed?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Same as Bob Marley and John Lennon <br><br> He wanted us all to get along better - Thats my best guess.<br><br> But, if youre method of control (divide and rule ) is, was and , until people realise this is how things are done will be, then such kind of 'Idealism' is dangerous. Especially with a mass kind of following.<br><br> Ask Diana. Ask JP1. Ask JFK. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 3/8/06 9:19 pm<br></i>
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Re: For the usual reasons.

Postby thumperton » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:20 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Same as Bob Marley and John Lennon<br><br>He wanted us all to get along better - Thats my best guess.<br><br>But, if youre method of control is, was and , until people realise this is how things are done will be, then such kind of 'Idealism' is dangerous. Especially with a mass kind of following.<br><br>Ask Diana. Ask JP1. Ask JFK.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->wasn't MLK sponsored by the PTB? <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.smiliesftw.com/!/redface.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.smiliesftw.com/!/hsughrun.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: For the usual reasons.

Postby slimmouse » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:53 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>wasn't MLK sponsored by the PTB?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> As was Diana, JFK, and PJ1<br><br> Whats the difference Thumper ? <p></p><i></i>
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P on the TB's!!!!!!!!

Postby Floyd Smoots » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:26 am

My boyz, sometimes, the PTB co-opts even the best meaning fellow-human-loving people, support them, and, when, they are found to be, in their core beliefs, to be incorruptable, and unbribable (un-buy-able?), they just arrange to have them 'terminated with extreme prejudice". Not a nice, or even freedom-loving thing to do, but, alas, done, nonetheless, in order for the "Beat" to go on.<br><br>Please allow me to quote a snippet of "Willie the Bard" here: "Then Cry HAVOC, and let slip the DOGS of WAR!!!". Works for them, SUX for the rest of us!!!!<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Control mechanisms

Postby marykmusic » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:23 pm

Indeed, Floyd and y'all, the most power (or loosh) comes from co-opting the truly innocent. Look at Ritual Abuse, for example.<br><br>In the New Age (also known 'round here as newage-rhymes-with-sewage phrase from my big bro) movement, Power is acquired by convincing good, kind, innocent people that they are "doing good" by going along with a specific agenda. Locally well-known agendae include Drunval-oh Mel-cheezy-dick, and the Maitreya thing. There's also the I-Am group following the slobberings-- or channellings, whatever you want to call it-- of St Germaine. This is a big deal around Mt Shasta. These people really think they're 'way up there and doing Good Things, but their money and energy are constantly being sucked out of them.<br><br>There are career people in the CIA and military, for example, who are aghast at what's being done, and how their energy is being corrupted. This is why there are whistle-blowers. This is also why there are programs to quash them. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Control mechanisms

Postby professorpan » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:02 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>n the New Age (also known 'round here as newage-rhymes-with-sewage phrase from my big bro) movement, Power is acquired by convincing good, kind, innocent people that they are "doing good" by going along with a specific agenda.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I suggest that description would include those trying to convince people that they are etherically disabling non-existent nukes and frying alien bases with buried orgonite rods.<br><br>I like a lot of the stuff you say, MaryK, but the Dragon/loosh/alien base stuff is as silly and new age as it gets. <p></p><i></i>
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