The Money Masters: How the International Bankers ...

[PeterofLoneTree]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"Ron Paul. I forgot about him....Russ Feingold....John Conyers....Cynthia McKinney.... <br>Are there any others in office now that you can think of who have stood up to the neocons?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> -- pugzleyca3<br><br>McDermott of Washington and Kucinich of Ohio still have my respect. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Can you give us the context of this "summary" please ?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The summary I was referring to was a summary of Icke's beliefs as written in that article. By Icke. Who says Rothschilds are lizards. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Heres the test.<br><br>The Rothschilds are Reptilian. The Rothschilds are Jewish.<br><br>All Jews are really lizards ?<br><br>True or false ?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>You really want to argue logic when one of your premises is that the Rothschilds are reptilian? <br><br>I won't go more into Icke as that's, hopefully, off topic...I was just replying to slim's first post. Others can read his posts and decide for themselves. Slim...if you want to go head to head on Icke, I'll be happy to start a new thread. On my end will be nothing but Icke quotes. No commentary. You can continue to exercise your penetrating logical analysis.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<br> You might have a deal there.<br><br> As long as I can respond by taking the time to trawl thru your "logical" rebuttals, by simply quoting you ?<br><br> What I will probably do, of course, Is take about half a dozen sentences out of the entirety of your work and writings and present them as evidence.<br><br> That would of course be unreasonable.<br><br> But then again, since I doubt if your expansive literary collection contains a single Icke book, I shouldnt wonder that this is all that you will yourself be doing. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

I actually thought about buying some..but they are expensive. He has lots of articles on his site and though I can't find it now, there is at least one full text edition of one of his books on the internet. <br><br>I can't quote the whole book or whole article...so you'll have to be the one to show how the context "excuses" the paragraph.<br><br>You won't have too much luck searching for my articles as the search feature on EZboard is not so good...but feel free.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I actually thought about buying some..but they are expensive. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Find out more for free. Simply go to google video, and watch some of his many presentations on there.<br><br> "The robots Rebellion" is a good place to start. Particularly when you consider that Icke made this presentation in 1994.<br><br> In some respects Dreams End I have sympathy for your leanings. Ive said many times myself, that if it hadnt have been for a friend lending me a copy of one of his books, then I wouldnt have touched Icke with the metaphorical bargepole, due mainly to the accusations of Anti semitism, and the talk of Shapeshifters et cetera. <br><br> I should of course have known better. As a researcher, I find Icke second to none. Im not suggesting for one moment that his work doesnt contain occasional mistakes, both factual and conceptual, or that he doesnt selectively support his case. <br><br> However, if I had physically digested the volume of information that someone like Icke has, I would hope I might be excused for the occasional errors of presentation. <br><br> And therein lies the both the rub, and the big clue.<br><br> If theres anyone in the whole world whos paid for that more than David Icke, Id be interested to know who they are.In itself, this should speak volumes to anyone trying to break thru the lie that is consensus reality, particularly people like yourself, who understand how the bigger game is played.<br><br> And meanwhile, Is absolutely anyone youve ever met not guilty of such selectivity ?<br><br> Am I ? The hell im not. How about you DE ? <p></p><i></i>

[InnerSpace Cadet]

How convenient! 2 trillion just "lost"<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> !!<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060613/bs_nm/markets_equities_global_dc_1">news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060...lobal_dc_1</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

Well, that didn't take long, now did it?<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I wonder how much they are really infusing into the markets? Remember, they no longer tell us (since March 06) how much money they are actually printing. (like I'd believe anything they say anyway!)<br><br>And, from what I understand, the Bush Administration has intervened in the stock market more than any other administration in history to avoid crashes. (From what I can gather, it's not unheard of for the gov. to intervene but it should be a rare occurance) But, this is also a way to manipulate the market and is a way to make "certain" people rich in the process, with this inside info.<br><br>I don't pretend to understand how the stock market works, but I'm learning. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[JD]

While the pissing match on "lizards" and "codewords" might be an entertaining read (albeit silly), might I ask some rather simple questions to the wise posters on this topic?<br><br>Like EXACTLY who are the "International Bankers"? Names of people please. Any details on these folks? Like how they came about their wealth? Do they come for oligarchic families? What is the history of said families?<br><br>Who are the largest controlling shareholders in the largest "international banks"?<br><br>Who are the management teams in the largest "international banks"?<br><br>Who are the shareholders of the Federal Reserve Banks? If these shareholders are companies, who are the controlling shareholders in said companies?<br><br>Until such facts are clear, how can any rational discourse on the topic occur?<br><br>I'm not so wise as to know who is Icky and who is a lizard. I would like to actually know if there is an active oligarchy with a high degree of ownership of the world's financial industry.<br><br>Can anyone help out with this?<br> <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wealth4freedom.com/money/fedup.htm">www.wealth4freedom.com/money/fedup.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>JD, here is a link which names who they are. The board won't let me post the article for some reason. <br><br>This should tell you a lot about them.<br><br>These are the same suspects that the video linked here is referring to. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=pugzleyca3>pugzleyca3</A> at: 6/13/06 11:51 pm<br></i>

[JD]

Thanks. <br><br>An answer. Kind of.<br><br>Note the answers are very old, from suspect sources, and only relating to the Fed. No comments on the identity of "international bankers" in general! Are they mythical figures like aQ? Or are they rather wisely keeping as low of profile as possible for reasons of preserving a good thing to them? Is stating "international banker" anti-semitic code as per DE's ramblings? Or is the mysterious lack of knowledge as per who the fuck the "international bankers" and "Fed Owners" indicative that there is indeed an oligarchy that wants to keep its identity very, very quiet? Isn't this a gorilla in the closet? Like, how come there isn't a Fortune magazine that lists the "Top International Bankers for 2006" which goes on to brag about the trillions of dollars they've reaped out of us dupes through fractional reserve banking???<br><br>Yeah I forgot how to use the quote function. Hope its OK for most people. If this seriously bothers you as reader, please accept my apology and then go for some blog therapy or something. <br><br>From previous link by pugzleyca3 <br><br>Quote:<br><br>THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS A PRIVATE COMPANY. <br><br>Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to coin (create) money and regulate the value thereof. Today however, the FED, which is a privately owned company, controls and profits by printing money through the Treasury, and regulating its value. <br><br>The FED began with approximately 300 people or banks that became owners (stockholders purchasing stock at $100 per share - the stock is not publicly traded) in the Federal Reserve Banking System. <br><br>Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: <br><br>(JD comment: yes VERY interesting that the ownership of the Fed Reserve banks is "secret"; along with the identity of the "international bankers" too.)<br><br>Rothschild Bank of London <br>Warburg Bank of Hamburg <br>Rothschild Bank of Berlin <br>Lehman Brothers of New York <br>Lazard Brothers of Paris <br>Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York <br>Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy <br>Goldman, Sachs of New York <br>Warburg Bank of Amsterdam <br>Chase Manhattan Bank of New York <br><br>(JD comment: this list came from Reference 14 called "En Route to Global Occupation" by Gary H. Kah - ROTFLMAO - yeah put a title on a book like that and get taken seriously!! Any bets out there that at least some of the conspiracy literature put out is purposely put out to put people seeking truth off the trail and provide general mindfucks to those going down the rabbit hole?)<br><br>The individuals listed below owned banks which in turn owned shares in the FED. The banks listed below have significant control over the New York FED District, which controls the other 11 FED Districts. These banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED District Bank. <br><br>First National Bank of New York <br>James Stillman <br><br>National City Bank, New York <br>Mary W. Harnman <br><br>National Bank of Commerce, New York <br>A.D. Jiullard <br><br>Hanover National Bank, New York <br>Jacob Schiff <br><br>Chase National Bank, New York <br>Thomas F. Ryan <br><br>Paul Warburg <br>William Rockefeller <br>Levi P. Morton <br>M.T. Pyne <br>George F. Baker <br>Percy Pyne <br>Mrs. G.F. St. George <br>J.W. Sterling <br>Katherine St. George <br>H.P. Davidson <br>J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life) <br>Edith Brevour T. Baker <br><br><br>(JD comment - reference is from Mullins (!!) - "Useless Mullins" research from the 1940's - God darn this is an OLD list - who are the CURRENT shareholders?? WTF should 60 year old research be being rolled out as a "revelation"?)<br><br>REITERATING the original question but with the proviso that I'd like to know who are the current "international bankers" and "Fed Owners".<br><br>I'd expect that if a poster can't answer that question they should be careful about their pronouncements of wisdom on the topic.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

Excuuuuuse me for not posting up to par and to suit you.<br><br>I'm sure you're as capable as the rest of us when it comes to doing your own search since you are on the internet just like everyone else here.<br><br>Look it up if you think you can do any better and post it here for the rest of us. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=pugzleyca3>pugzleyca3</A> at: 6/14/06 12:48 am<br></i>

[Dreams End]

No foreign ownership is allowed for the federal reserve. mullens is full of crap. <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

DE, who are they? <br><br>All I know is what I can dig up on the net. I have no idea who Mullens is. <p></p><i></i>

[JD]

Of course you are correct, I could do some web based research to try to sort it out.<br><br>And have.<br><br>And found the silence on the topic to be deafening. (as per current roster of big bank owners/controlling shareholders)<br><br>Mullins was a protege of Ezra Pound. I'm not going to dismiss him entirely but certainly put him the "suspect" and "alternative" list.<br><br>How come there is no nice, mainstream, well researched articles that tell us who the Supermen of Finance are, what golf clubs they belong to, their sumptious estates......<br><br>This is the "Lifestyle of the Rich and Famous" society after all. <p></p><i></i>

[JD]

DE - as you said:<br><br>"No foreign ownership is allowed for the federal reserve. mullens is full of crap. "<br><br>So by your answer I take it you know who owns the Fed? Cool. This is really awesome as I've been wanting to find out who it is. Then may I trouble you to answer my question rather than pronouncing the body contents of some dead guy? <br><br>I want to know so I can invite them to my son's school's charity auction next wek. And maybe sell them some really "high reward" oil exploration prospects! <p></p><i></i>