RI a "CIA fake site?"

by **proldic** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:14 am

db - ??? I didn't silence anybody, least of all RR

by **dbeach** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:21 am

PRO Not at all directed at you rather at the 1984 society which is being created against the will of the citizens and of course the spectators at many forums who disrupt ,insult, debunk with maliciousness..and attempt to control the opinions of others.. RI seems to be the most civilized and tolerant of many forums that I have visited..

by **Qutb** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:34 am

I think a lot of "disinfo" arises spontaneously without the alphabet guys having to lift a finger. We all have our favourite villains and we all have limited information about current events, though some are clearly more limited in their understanding than others. I don't know if this internet "CT community" is of great interest to the PTB, quite honestly. I'm sure it's being watched though, in places like James Woolsey's <a href="http://www.arlingtoninstitute.org/" target="top">Arlington Institute</a>, which claims to be<a href="http://www.arlingtoninstitute.org/about_tai/mission_05.asp" target="top">"sweeping</a> in real-time thousands of Net and News sources" and "tracking and evaluating major scientific, technological, social, demographic, and environmental forces that drive change", in order to " help leadership from all sectors chart the most direct course to preferred futures". Who knows, maybe we're threatening James Woolsey's "preferred future". If that's the case, I'm sure he knows already, because "this revolution is eliminating the historic constraints of geography and location and makes it possible, for the first time in history, perhaps, to predict the social behavior of large groups of people to certain types of events.

by **Ferry Fey** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:36 am

Wouldn't it have been simpler to just make the list of the 9/11 truth websites that aren't CIA disinfo? Or is it that you can't have a list with only one website?

by **Col Quisp** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:38 pm

I notice that BFN will not allow comments to his malicious blog entry. I'd like to know what internet sites he thinks are OK. Then I will at last know the TRUTH! I'm sick of trying to connect dots. It's too late anyway.

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:57 pm

to today's blog entry about Fintan's list, and said, given the controversial cans of worms lying open around RI, I can understand why he might I'm at best misled. But c'mon - Buzzflash? Riverbend?? What he hopes to accomplish in his echo chamber, I don't know.

by **vondardenelle** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:17 pm

jeff, even if you are at best mislead, your blog is still fascinating. I've been reading since around April and it's really opened my eyes up to a whole other world. About 95% of all of this stuff was new to me and it's really blown me away alot of the time. I've ordered about 12 books in the past 2 months just to try to get some background on all of this (slow reader, i've only about 1.5 of these so far). anyway, thanks for the writing (and thanks to everyone else on the boards & comments) vd Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=vondardenelle>vondardenelle</A> at: 8/5/05 11:20 am

by **jpuma** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:21 pm

i didn't make the cut! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> stuff like this makes me wonder: how big a deal are all of these fringe sites? i mean, who is this "dunne" guy? how many people does he actually reach? when i think of fringe sites that actually draw in enough traffic to influence people in one way or another, all i can come up with are alex jones and rense. of course, all i know is my own traffic, which tends to fluctuate between meagre and sparse (which is 100% fine w/me)-- i'm sure jeff gets plenty more, but who is gonna be convinced to avoid all of these other sites by reading this dunne dude's hitlist? should it even be worth anything more than a laugh?

by **Peachtree Pam** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:26 pm

Here are his thoughts: <a href="http://www.kurtnimmo.com/blog/">www.kurtnimmo.com/blog/</a>

by **rain** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:29 pm

sorry, but I can't understand why Fintan may think you're misled or anything else. I can only hypothesize that Fintan's either imploded on his own narcissism or that he too has been talking to racoons lately.

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:53 pm

"stuff like this makes me wonder: how big a deal are all of these fringe sites?" There's sometimes a very unhealthy solipsism to "alternative" media. And often the more "alternative" it is, the more solipsistic it becomes. It seems an over-compensation for marginalization.

by **RebelYell** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:07 pm

I emailed the list to Hopsicker, and he's gonna be pissed. I can't wait for his rebuttal. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin">

by **proldic** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:17 pm

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American Committee for the Liberation of the People of Russia American Committee for the International Commission of Jurists American Economic Foundation American Federation for Fundemental Research American Federation of Labor/Congress of Industrial Organization (AFL/CIO) American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) American Foundation for the Middle East American Friends of the Middle East American Friends of the Russian Freedom American Friends Service Committee American Fund for Czechoslovak Refugees American Fund For Free Jurists American Geographic Society American Historical Society American Institute for Free Labor Development (AIFLD) American Machine & Foundry American Mutual Insurance Company American Newspaper Guild American Newspaper Publishers Association American Oriental Society American Political Science Association American Red Cross American Research Center in Egypt, Inc. American Society of African Culture American Institute of Cairo American University - Special Operations Research Office Ames Research Center M.D. Anderson Foundation ANSA (Italian Wire Service) Antell, Wright & Nagel Anti-Communist Christian Front Anti-Communist Liberation Movement Anti-Totalitarian Board of Solidarity with the People of Vietnam Anti-Totalitarian Youth movement Appalachian Fund Arabian-American Oil Company Area Tourist Association Ashland Oil and Refining Company Asia Foundation Association of American Geographers Association of Computing Machinery Association of Friends of Venezuela Association of Preparatory Students Assoziation ungarischer Studenten in Nordamerika "Atlantic Journals and Constitution" Atomics, Physics & Science Fund, Inc. Atwater Research Program in North Africa ***** * B * ***** David, Josephine & Winfield Baird Foundation, Inc. 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Frederick Brown Foundation Burgerkomitee fur Au Benpolitik (SS) Bulgarisches Nationales Zentrum Burndy Corporation Butte Pipe Line Company ***** * C * ***** Cahill, Gordon, Reindel & Ohl Cahill & Wilinski California Shipbuilding Corporation Campfire Girls CARE, see Committee for American Relief Everywhere Caribean Marine Area Corporation (Caramar) James Carlisle Trust Carnegie Foundation John Carroll University Catherwood Foundation Catholic Labor Foundation Catholic University Youth Organization CBS Television Network CEDOC, see Catholic Labor Center (CRESS) Center for Strategic Studies Center of Studies and Social Action (CEAS) CEOSL, see Ecuadorean Confederation of Free Trade Union Organizations Chesapeake Foundation Chicago College of Arts and Sciences Citizens State Bank of Wausau Civil Air Transport (CAT) Clothing and Textiles Workers Union COG, see Guayana Workers Confederation Colt's Patent Fire Arms Company Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS) Columbia University Columbian Financial Development Company "Combate" "EL Commercio" Com. Suisse d'Aide aux Patrgrols Committee for American Relief (CARE) Committee for Correspondance Committee for Free Albania Committee for Liberty of Peoples Communications Workers of America (CWA) Confederation for an Independent Poland Conference of the Atlantic Community Congress for Cultural Freedom Continental Airlines Corporation Continental Press Cooperative League of America Coordinating Committee of Free Trade Unionists of Ecuador Coordinating Secretariat of National Unions of Students (cosec), see International Student Conference (ISC) Cornell University Cosden Petroleum Corporation Council on Economic and Cultural Affairs, Inc. Council of Foreign Relations Cox, Langford, Stoddard & Cutler CRC, see Cuban Revolutionary Council CROCLE, see Regional Confederation of Ecuadorean Coastal Trade Unions Cross, Murphy and Smith Crossroads of Africa Crusade for Freedom CSU, see Urugayan Labor Conference CTM, see Mexican Workers Confederation Cuban Portland Cement Company Cuban Revolutionary Council (CRC, Cuban Exile) Cummings and Seller Curtis Publishing Company CUT, see Uruguayan Confederation of Workers ***** * D * ***** Daddario & Burns Debevoise, Plimpton, Lyons & Gates (West) Deutscher Kunstlerbund Dominion Rubber Company Double Chek Corporation DRE, see Revolutionary Student Directorate in Exile ***** * E * ***** Eagleton Institute of Politics - Princeton University East Asian Institute East-West Center Ecuadorean Anti-Communist Action Ecuadorean Anti-Communist Front Ecuadorean Confederation of Free Trade Union Organizations (CEOSL) Ecuadorean Federation of Telecommunications Workers (FENETEL) Editors Press Service Edsel Fund Electric Storage Battery Company El Gheden Mining Corporation "Encounter" End Kadhmir Dispute Committee "Ensayos" Entertainment Workers Union ERC International, Inc. 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Free Europe Exile Relations Free Europe Press Division Freie Universitat (FU) Frente Departmental de Compensinos de Puno Fund for International, Social and Economic Development ***** * G * ***** Gambia National Youth Council General Electric Company General Foods Corporation General Motors Geological Society of America Georgia Council on Human Relations Gilbraltar Steamship Corporation Girl Scouts -- U.S.A. Glore, Forgan & Company Goldstein, Judd & Gurfein Gotham Foundation Government Affairs Institute W.R. Grace and Company Granary Fund Grey Advertising Agency Guyana Workers Confederation (COG) Gulf Oil Corporation ***** * H * ***** Andrew Hamilton Fund Harvard University Heights Fund Joshua Hendy Iron Works Himalayan Convention Histadrut - The Federation of Labor in Isreal "Hiwar" Hobby Foundation Hoblitzelle Foundation Hodson Corporation Hogan & Hartson Holmes Foundation, Inc. Hoover Institute on War, Revolution and Peace "Houston Post" Hughes Aircraft Corporation Hutchins Advertising Company of Canada Huyck Corporation ***** * I * ***** IBAD, see Brazilian Institute for Democratic Action Independence Foundation "Independent Press Telegram" Independent Research Service Indiana University Industrial Research Service Institut zur Erforschung der USSR e.V. Institute Battelle Memorial Institute of Contemporary Art Institute of Danubian Inquiry Institute of Garbology Institute of International Education Institute of International Labor Research Education Institute of Political Education Institute of Public Administration International-American Center of Economic and Social Studies International-American Federation of Journalists International-American Federation of Working Newspapermen (IFWN) International-American Labor College International-American Police Academy, see International Police Academy International-American Regional Labor Organization (ORIT) Intercontinental Finance Corporation Intercontinental Research Corporation Intermountain Aviation International Armament Corporation (INTERARMCO) International Catholic Youth Federation International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) International Confederation of Free Trade Unions (IFCTU) International Cooperation Administration (ICA) International Development Foundation, Inc. International Fact Finding Institute International Federation of Christian Trade Unions IFCTU, see World Confederation of Labor International Federation of Journalists International Federation of Newspaper Publishers International Federation of Petroleum and Chemical Workers (IFPCW) International Federation of Plantation, Agriculture and Allied Workers (IFPAAW) International Federation of Women Lawyers (IFWL) International Geographical Union International Journalists Conference International Labor Research Institute International Packers, Ltd. International Polaroid Corporation International Police Academy International Police Services School International Press Institute International Rescue Committee International Secretatiate of the Pax Romana International Student Conference (ISC) International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation (ITT) International Trade Services International Trade Secretariats International Transport Workers Federation (ITF) International Union Officials Trade Organizations International Union of Young Christian Democrats International Youth Center Internationale Federation der Mittel- und Osteuropas Internationale Organization zur Erforschung kommunistischer Nethoden Internationaler Bund freier Journalisten Internationales Hilfskomitee Ivy League Colleges ***** * J * ***** Jacksonville University Japan Cultural Forum Junior Chamber of Commerce (Jaycees) ***** * K * ***** KAMI Kentfield Fund J.M. Kaplan Fund, Inc. Keats, Allen & Keats Kennecott Copper Corporation Kennedy & Sinclaire, Inc. 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by **proldic** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:20 pm

...guess I won't be able to buy "Manhatten" brand coffee again.

by **thrulookingglass** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:28 pm

I call for an immediate investigation as to the source used by Fintan Dunne. Don't internet journalist have any respect for deep-cover CIA agents?! I bet it's ROVE! That asshole can't keep his mouth shut! ;oD

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