Cheney shoots 78-year old man

[antiaristo]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="font-size:small;">Cheney Cited for Breaking Hunting Law</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <br><br>Tuesday February 14, 2006 12:01 PM<br><br>By NEDRA PICKLER <br>Associated Press Writer <br><br>WASHINGTON (AP) - Vice President Dick Cheney has been given a warning citation for breaking Texas hunting law by failing to buy a $7 stamp allowing him to shoot upland game birds. <br><br>The warning came from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department after it investigated Cheney's accidental shooting of a fellow quail hunter Saturday on the private Armstrong Ranch in the south part of the state.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>In Britain, where a driver is found to be without insurance or road fund licence, He is always deemed guilty in the event of an accident. Even where another person runs right into his path. The logic is that he should not have been there without those legal requirements. Therefore anything that happens is his responsibility exclusively.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren said that about an hour after Cheney shot Whittington, the head of the Secret Service's local office called the Kenedy County sheriff to report the accident. ``They made arrangements at the sheriff's request to have deputies come out and interview the vice president the following morning at 8 a.m. and that indeed did happen,'' Zahren said. <br><br>At least one deputy showed up at the ranch's front gate Saturday evening and asked to speak to Cheney but was turned away by the Secret Service, Zahren said. There was some miscommunication that arrangements already had been made to interview Cheney the next morning, he said.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Yeah. He was drunk.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Both the sheriff's department and the state have determined that alcohol <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>did not appear</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> to be a factor.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Yeah. That proves it.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>it was being handled as a hunting accident, although he would not comment about what exactly they were investigating.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5617693,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/worldl...93,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[chillin]

Wonder why they think it's a good idea to let Cheney assume the responsibility for the accident? It happened in seclusion, coulda been blamed on anyone. <p></p><i></i>

[seemslikeadream]

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/13863636.htm" target="top">www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/13863636.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Cheney's companion at fault in shooting, White House says <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

No, it's Rumsfeld's fault.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://content.todayscartoons.uclick.com/" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>And the liberal press.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://content.todayscartoons.uclick.com/" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>And the victim. Who did he think he was, walking in front of a flying bird like that? Made him look like... a DEMOCRAT!<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://content.todayscartoons.uclick.com/" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>No, seriously, folks, Cheney's gonna lose his chance for his Boy Scout Shooting Sports Merit Badges for sure. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>

[mxmendo]

This was a "canned" hunt, using farm raised birds released from cages. They are not wild and have none of the instincts that a normal field bird would have. It is understandable that they might fly any which way, especially considering that dogs could have gotten in front of the birds and flushed them back toward the hunters.<br><br>The lack of basic safety and the fact that most "real" hunters look down on canned hunts does not help cheneys rep with the serious hunter demographic. <p></p><i></i>

[seemslikeadream]

under TX Law! <br> According to TX Penal Code, Chapter 22 <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.005.00.000022.00.htm#22.01.00" target="top">www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.005.00.000022.00.htm#22.01.00</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>§ 22.01. ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an offense if <br>the person: <br>(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes <br>bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse; <br>(2) intentionally or knowingly threatens another with <br>imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse; or<br>(3) intentionally or knowingly causes physical <br>contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably <br>believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or <br>provocative.<br>(b) An offense under Subsection (a)(1) is a Class A <br>misdemeanor,...<br><br><br>And the definition of Reckless under TX Law <br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.002.00.000006.00.htm#6.03.00" target="top">www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.002.00.000006.00.htm#6.03.00</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->§ 6.03. DEFINITIONS OF CULPABLE MENTAL STATES. (a) A <br>person acts intentionally, or with intent, with respect to the <br>nature of his conduct or to a result of his conduct when it is his <br>conscious objective or desire to engage in the conduct or cause the <br>result.<br>(b) A person acts knowingly, or with knowledge, with respect <br>to the nature of his conduct or to circumstances surrounding his <br>conduct when he is aware of the nature of his conduct or that the <br>circumstances exist. A person acts knowingly, or with knowledge, <br>with respect to a result of his conduct when he is aware that his <br>conduct is reasonably certain to cause the result.<br>(c) A person acts recklessly, or is reckless, with respect <br>to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his <br>conduct when he is aware of but consciously disregards a <br>substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or <br>the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree <br>that its disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard <br>of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the <br>circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint.<br>(d) A person acts with criminal negligence, or is criminally <br>negligent, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or <br>the result of his conduct when he ought to be aware of a substantial <br>and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result <br>will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that the <br>failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the <br>standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all <br>the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint.<br><br><br><br>And it gets worse since the victim was over 65:<br><br><br>§ 22.04. INJURY TO A CHILD, ELDERLY INDIVIDUAL, OR <br>DISABLED INDIVIDUAL. (a) A person commits an offense if he <br>intentionally, knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence, <br>by act or intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly by omission, <br>causes to a child, elderly individual, or disabled individual:<br>(1) serious bodily injury; <br>(2) serious mental deficiency, impairment, or injury; <br>or <br>(3) bodily injury. <br>(b) An omission that causes a condition described by <br>Subsections (a)(1) through (a)(3) is conduct constituting an <br>offense under this section if:<br>(1) the actor has a legal or statutory duty to act; or <br>(2) the actor has assumed care, custody, or control of <br>a child, elderly individual, or disabled individual.<br>(c) In this section: <br>(1) "Child" means a person 14 years of age or younger. <br>(2) "Elderly individual" means a person 65 years of <br>age or older. <br>(3) "Disabled individual" means a person older than 14 <br>years of age who by reason of age or physical or mental disease, <br>defect, or injury is substantially unable to protect himself from <br>harm or to provide food, shelter, or medical care for himself.<br>(d) The actor has assumed care, custody, or control if he <br>has by act, words, or course of conduct acted so as to cause a <br>reasonable person to conclude that he has accepted responsibility <br>for protection, food, shelter, and medical care for a child, <br>elderly individual, or disabled individual.<br>(e) An offense under Subsection (a)(1) or (2) is a felony of <br>the first degree when the conduct is committed intentionally or <br>knowingly. When the conduct is engaged in recklessly it shall be a <br>felony of the second degree.<br><br><br><br><br>Cheney COMMITTED A SECOND DEGREE FELONY! <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=seemslikeadream@rigorousintuition>seemslikeadream</A> at: 2/14/06 11:38 am<br></i>

[chiggerbit]

These people really are above the law.<br><br>Am I wrong, or were there really two men and two women on this little hunting jaunt? Could that be the need for such secrecy? <p></p><i></i>

[StarmanSkye]

Mxmedo: Thanks for the clarification. I'd seen a few ref. to 'canned hunt' but didn't make the connection that the birds were raised and released just before the hunt -- and so they wouldn't act re: wild birds fleeing prey. I find the whole notion of canned hunts repugnant. Beats me how someone can find this 'sporting', it's a bit like taking a shotgun into a chicken coop -- with the biggest differences being Quail can fly, they have cover and there's a smaller number of birds.<br><br>Re: The White House spin that Whittington was at fault for 'not announcing' himself -- about what I'd expect from this WH crew, they're simply incapable of admitting (or even recognizing!) when they fuck-up (which is most of the time IMO).<br><br>Re: Britain's 'No insurance/road fund license = automatic accident fault' policy -- What an outrageous abridgement of rights and due process, with the net effect of making driving a privelege based on economic means, prone to subsidizing the cost-forward inefficiences and indulgences of the insurance industry -- which in turn aggravate the built-in cost-surcharges of the auto-parts and vehicle industry from cars that seem designed to maximize accident damage repair expenses. I don't think this 'no insurance = accident fault by default' has become policy in the US, though I expect the PTB have that on their agenda. <br><br>Starman <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

A quail in the hand is worth two in the Bush. <p></p><i></i>

[seemslikeadream]

a small heart attack, dickie peppered him in the heart! <p></p><i></i>

[heath7]

'Canned hunts' that fetch 70 birds a day really says it all. What does it feel like to <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>kill</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> 70 birds in a day? How would it feel to try and relax after commanding such godlike power over the firmament and the heavens? After shooting 70 birds (or simply being able to), I bet it gets hard to tell the difference between a human and a bird, aside from the human's inherent added value at hunt. <br><br>Cheney is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>the</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> textbook megalomaniacal villian. Give him some special powers and I doubt better fiction could be written for what he'd do with them. He is one of a kind. It will be good when he's gone, but his unique insanity will be missed. <p></p><i></i>

[Connut]

Top Ten Dick Cheney Excuses<br><br><br>10. "Heart palpitation caused trigger finger to spasm"<br><br>9. "Wanted to get the Iraq mess off the front page"<br><br>8. "Not enough Jim Beam"<br><br>7. "Trying to stop the spread of bird flu"<br><br>6. "I love to shoot people"<br><br>5. "Guy was making cracks about my lesbian daughter"<br><br>4. "I thought the guy was trying to go 'gay cowboy' on me"<br><br>3. "Excuse? I hit him, didn't I?"<br><br>2. "Until Democrats approve medicare reform, we have to make some tough choices for the elderly"<br><br>1. "Made a bet with Gretzky's wife"<br> <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

While I will admit I laughed at the Letterman Top 10, and at the brilliant Daily Show take on this incident, I am appalled at Scott McClellan and Jeb Bush cracking jokes about a shooting that put a human being in an intensive care unit.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>WASHINGTON — The White House has decided that the best way to deal with Vice President Dick Cheney's shooting accident is to joke about it.<br><br>President Bush's spokesman quipped Tuesday that the burnt orange school colors of the University of Texas championship football team that was visiting the White House shouldn't be confused for hunter's safety wear.<br><br>"The orange that they're wearing is not because they're concerned that the vice president may be there," joked White House press secretary Scott McClellan, following the lead of late-night television comedians. "That's why I'm wearing it."<br><br>The president's brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, took a similar jab after slapping an orange sticker on his chest from the Florida Farm Bureau that read, "No Farmers, No Food."<br><br>"I'm a little concerned that Dick Cheney is going to walk in," the governor cracked during an appearance in Tampa Monday.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Now that we've learned that Whittington had a heart attack thanks to the Dick, his life could be in serious jeopardy. Will Scotty and Jeb crack jokes at this funeral?<br><br>Somehow it wouldn't surprise me one bit. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=professorpan>professorpan</A> at: 2/14/06 2:22 pm<br></i>

[Gouda]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060214/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_whittington_8;_ylt=AuFN09fRes3NLVdZmCLIYzVqP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl">news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060...MlJVRPUCUl</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack<br>AP - 28 minutes ago<br><br>CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas - The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had "a minor heart attack" Tuesday morning, hospital officials said. The victim, Harry Whittington, was immediately moved back to the intensive care unit for further treatment, said Peter Banko, the administrator at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial in Texas. ...<br><br>David Blanchard, chief of emergency care, called it "a silent heart attack, an asymptomatic heart attack. He's not had a heart attack in the traditional sense." ...<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The accident raised questions about Cheney's adherence to hunting safety practices and the White House's failure to disclose the accident in a timely way.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>***<br><br>It did raise those questions, it did. <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

About bird dogs:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>dogs could have gotten in front of the birds and flushed them back toward the hunters.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I'm betting that there were no field dogs on this hunt. Well-trained bird dogs don't flush birds back toward the people, they stay behind them; nobody with a good dog would have let Cheney hunt a valuable animal (good ones, like coonhounds, can run into the tens of thousands of dollar range); and they had just gotten out of a car. A CAR! WTF? That alone says they're not real hunters! Plus the complete disregard for standard gun safety rules... And because it was on private land, game laws don't really apply. The $7 bird stamp, perhaps, but not the bag limit... --MaryK <p></p><i></i>