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Re: Brusselssprout is irresponsible BS?

Postby professorpan » Wed May 24, 2006 2:31 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>So are you telling me that, based on what I just listed I'm probably a TI as well? <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I wondered when you'd wake up to the horrifying truth ;-)<br><br>I'm also convinced brussel sprout (echo of Mae Brussel in that choice of name?) has created an exceptional spoof. The sad thing is that people would read it and consider it anything other than comedic. That shows the problems with belief systems that attempt to explain mental illness. <br><br>And Mary K, I know you're sincere, and your brother Dragon is sincere. But I don't believe that zapping alien bases with orgonite is anything other than a mind game. I also don't agree that supporting the delusional beliefs of others is therapeutic. It may seem so in the short term, but ultimately any validation of their beliefs will reinforce their mental illness.<br><br>I again encourage anyone following this discussion to view the various websites of your houseguests to make up their own minds. Anyone experienced with mentally ill people would recognize the tell-tale signs of paranoid, delusional thinking, disorganized personality, and possible Munchausen-by-proxy. <br><br>Did your houseguests suffer persecution? Maybe something did happen, intially, that pushed them over the edge. But alleging that an entire county government is a Communist, terrorist cell is an example of someone who is sadly disturbed and needs help -- and the kind of help that would allow him/her to separate reality from delusion, not the kind of help that reinforces delusions.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Relationships...

Postby marykmusic » Wed May 24, 2006 2:43 pm

Dragon is my husband. He was a good friend of my brother Don, and one of the first people to build and deploy the Croft Cloudbuster. I'll start another thread to discuss that. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Relationships...

Postby professorpan » Wed May 24, 2006 2:49 pm

D'oh! Sorry about the confusion.<br><br>And though I may disagree with your beliefs, I in no way want to criticize you as a person. You've always been quite honest, open, and warm. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Brusselssprout is irresponsible BS?

Postby thoughtographer » Wed May 24, 2006 2:57 pm

Off-topic response moved to <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=4452.topic">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 5/24/06 1:06 pm<br></i>
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Re: Brusselssprout is irresponsible BS?

Postby marykmusic » Wed May 24, 2006 2:59 pm

I just started another thread, and this actually belongs there.<br><br>There need to be as many different viewpoints as possible in order to make informed choices and to have real opinions... not just a parrot who repeats what someone else says. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Brusselssprout is irresponsible BS?

Postby thoughtographer » Wed May 24, 2006 3:08 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There need to be as many different viewpoints as possible in order to make informed choices and to have real opinions... not just a parrot who repeats what someone else says.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Respectfully, I must ask: who is the "parrot" here, specifically? <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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Re: Brusselssprout is irresponsible BS?

Postby dugoboy » Wed May 24, 2006 3:09 pm

im really confused..what is this thread about? <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT."</p><i></i>
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Re: Brusselssprout is irresponsible BS?

Postby marykmusic » Wed May 24, 2006 3:14 pm

This is a generic statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. But I'm sure that folks know what I mean: any statement that starts with "...[insert big name here] says..." --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Brusselssprout is irresponsible BS?

Postby thoughtographer » Wed May 24, 2006 3:19 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This is a generic statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. But I'm sure that folks know what I mean: any statement that starts with "...[insert big name here] says..."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Like Wilhelm Reich? I understand what you're saying: status, notoriety and recognition go a long way for a lot of people -- too far, in fact. That doesn't negate the possibility of the person's words holding value though.<br><br>I moved my response to your other thread, though the link I provided had first-hand accounts from an alleged victim of sexual abuse within the Reichian community, so I felt it was germane to the the issues being discussed here. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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Re: Wassamatta, Reality Box won't stretch that big?

Postby StarmanSkye » Wed May 24, 2006 6:56 pm

Brussell Sprout has a full-blown persecution complex with delusions of grandeur and a Martyr Complex, or else his blog is a spoof. IMHO, of course. According to him, EVERYTHING that has happened to him in the last year-and-a-half is a plot by unacknowledged perps, most likely the FBI or CIA.<br><br>He sincerely believes ALL his friends and acquaintences and even work associates have been co-opted to harrass and intimidate and spy on him -- But who IS he, so important, such a Significant Person that the CIA et al. has hundreds of people conspiring to make his life miserable and spy on him, even 'arranging' for surreptitious 'Monarch' references to bedevil him and dozens of agents planted as neighbors to keep watch on him and let him 'know' their task is to make his life miserable.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://brussellsprout.blogspot.com/">brussellsprout.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>--quote--<br>Wednesday, December 28, 2005<br>various forms of harassment <br>For the past 18 months, I have been relentlessly attacked and harassed by the FBI, or some government intelligence agency. Since they don't have the guts to come out and tell me who they are, I have to guess. I think the FBI is a good guess, because they are authorized by charter to operate in the United States, whereas the CIA is not. That didn't stop the CIA from spying on American citizens in the 1960s, however. Operation Chaos was a program designed to destroy the ant-war movement. It was exposed in congressional hearings back in the 1970s, when Congress still had a few members who had not yet sold out to the "intelligence" agencies.<br><br>I have been placed under illegal 24-hour surveillance in the "privacy" of my own home, zapped with microwaves and other electronic weapons, stalked by a gang of psychopaths everywhere I go, had my employment opportunities and relationships sabotaged, been betrayed by so-called "friends" and "family," and much, much more. All the people in my life have been co-opted to participate in this harassment campaign. If they don't agree to participate, they are not allowed to have contact with me.<br><br>One good thing about this, from my point of view, is that it makes it easy to identify the perps. By definition, anyone who is allowed to have contact with me is a perp. If they weren't, they wouldn't be allowed to associate with me.<br><br>Lately, they've been using TV and radio to harass me. For example, these "non-lethal" weapons are sometimes more accurately described as "slow kill" weapons, since they hasten the target's departure from this world. So the other night I was watching a basketball game on TV, and the announcer started talking about how one player was "killing them softly" with his shooting.<br><br>I've been reading a lot about the Jesuits' use of deception to rule the world secretly from Rome, so one day I was watching a football game on TV, and the announcer started talking about how one team was a "master of deception" for using a screen pass.<br><br>Little incidents like these are designed with me in mind, because they know I'm going to be watching certain games, and the announcers are prepared ahead of time to work these comments into the broadcast while I'm watching. It gives you an idea of the enormous power the FBI has to infiltrate your life. They never come right out and tell you anything, they just plant ideas in your head so you're aware that they're watching you.<br>posted by brussellsprout<br>--unquote--<br><br>So, even sportscasters and cable networks are part of this conspiracy to bedevil Brussell Sprout?<br>If its not a spoof, its an awful inside-view honest confession of what private horrors living with this kind of untreated mental illness is like.<br><br>When I was younger, I had my own, mercifully temporary and mild, delusional experiences believing I was being victimized and persecuted by a spiteful, antagonistic universe (even tho I tended to act dismissive of such a belief, on some deep level I couldn't completely shake it, some remnant remained for a couple years) -- at the time, I wasn't aware of parapolitics and how prevalent were deeply-embedded criminal conspiracies by powerful ruling class elites and special interests, aka PTB and their control mechanism, Intelligence and psyop agents, or else I might have thought I was targetted because I was 'onto' them and resistant to their NWO, autocratic and fascist agenda -- Like probably might well be the case with Brussell Sprout, IF he is being sincere.<br><br>Just consider the ENORMOUS diversion of resources and effort it would take for millions of folks whose only 'threat' to the PTB is that they are critical or outspoken in their opposition, idealists, pro-peace, believe in social-justice and rule-of-law, well-informed re: parapolitics and deep politics, don't accept revisionist history, etc. It's simply inexplicable that they could be considered worth the intricate, labour-intensive hassling that Brussel Sprout apparently thinks is the norm for folks who don't beleive the Warren Commision or who think 911 was an inside job. He's plainly spoofing or so paranoid that it's seriously affecting his life and happiness.<br><br>I'm not blanket-asserting that NO ONE is targetted for retribution, harrassment, mind-control intimidation or punishment, etc. Who the hell can second-guess what the covert criminal thugs of empire and elite privelege and gov. corruption are involved in, protecting the enormous racketeering dynasties and scams and frauds of the PTB? But even their resources aren't limitless, and their methods are bound to be much more efficient and direct, such as outright blackmail or legal entrapment or elimination when someone becomes too much of a liability, and not the kind of relatively petty aggravation and nuisance irritation Brussel describes.<br><br>Now, as far as Butte County being thoroughly corrupted and controlled by organized criminal rackets -- what's so unbelieveable about that? Plenty of counties and cities are run as corrupt fiefdoms, with widespread collusion between government and business elites and criminal enterprises. I don't know for a fact Butte County is as corrupt as suggested, but I sure think it's possible. Cripes, look at the criminals who infect the White House, Pentagon, Congress and Federal, State and City courts!<br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Wassamatta, Reality Box won't stretch that big?

Postby HMKGrey » Wed May 24, 2006 6:59 pm

Thank you, Starman. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ...

Postby thoughtographer » Wed May 24, 2006 7:14 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Brussell Sprout has a full-blown persecution complex with delusions of grandeur and a Martyr Complex, or else his blog is a spoof. IMHO, of course. According to him, EVERYTHING that has happened to him in the last year-and-a-half is a plot by unacknowledged perps, most likely the FBI or CIA.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>If it is a spoof, then its a pretty successful one. I mean, I fell for it because I only skimmed through a couple of entries; it looked so similar to other blogs (thanks to "Blogspot") that I just wrote it off immediately, which really speaks to the need for a more rigorous approach from people interested in getting at the truth of the matter. I'm sure there are people being abused every day, just as I'm sure that a lot of people with manageable and treatable mental illnesses are understandably afraid of a corrupt and insensitive mental health care establishment -- and that's not even figuring in the cultural stigma that comes along with a diagnosis of woefully misunderstood illness like schizophrenia, not to mention it's ugly cousin, bipolar disorder.<br><br>If this is a hoax, then the author is liable to brag about it somewhere. If they're smart and don't intend to hit their marks with an eventual message or statement of intent, they'll either keep quiet about the truth on the Internet, or continue to draw attention to the hoax by posting on message boards and such, constantly asserting their sincerity. What a Chinese finger-trap.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I've been reading a lot about the Jesuits' use of deception to rule the world secretly from Rome, so one day I was watching a football game on TV, and the announcer started talking about how one team was a "master of deception" for using a screen pass.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>I could swear that I have an old paperback by J. Edgar Hoover entitled "Masters of Deception", but I can't find a reference to in online anywhere. Anyway, I'm sure you can guess what it's about. <br><br>Interesting link: http://www.nwc.navy.mil/library/3public ... eption.htm <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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This what your thinking of?

Postby snowlion2 » Wed May 24, 2006 7:30 pm

Masters of Deceit: The Story of Communism in America and How to Fight It <p></p><i></i>
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Re: This what your thinking of?

Postby thoughtographer » Wed May 24, 2006 10:18 pm

Thanks -- I think that's the one. I must have packed it up and put it in the attic. Funny stuff, but sad when I consider the repercussions of that way of thinking. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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brussell sprout's motivation -- stop the covert war

Postby john darmy » Thu May 25, 2006 12:26 am

As far as my motivation for posting my experiences on the Internet, it has nothing to do with "full-blown persecution complex," "delusions of grandeur" or "martyr complex." The main reason is to educate people that this type of thing is going on, to help prevent it from happening to other people.<br><br>In my own case, I'm sure I pissed off the Illuminati by exposing the fact that the CIA killed President Kennedy and has been running the country into the ground ever since. Also, I was already under heavy surveillance at the time of the 9-11 attacks, and I immediately started exposing that atrocity as an inside job involving U.S. intelligence agencies.<br>That probably didn't help matters.<br><br>But the point is, Monarch survivors are under surveillance their entire lives, and their lives are sabotaged to make them easier to control. Even if I hadn't gotten political and taken a stand against evil, I still would have been placed under surveillance my entire life and subjected to various forms of harassment.<br><br>Another hallmark of CIA involvement is disinformation designed to make truth-seekers and whistle-blowers out to be mentally ill. In other words, the conspiracy to cover up the truth about Monarch, MKULTRA and other CIA atrocities involves a strategy of ridiculing anyone who dares to expose the truth about these issues.<br><br>Frequently what happens is, when I post information about my story on the Internet, I am immediately attacked by CIA operatives who try to portray me as mentally ill. If it weren't so pathetic and easy to see through, it would be really annoying. Luckily, most of the people on this discussion board are intelligent enough to see right through these tactics.<br><br>I was a reporter for the South Bend (Ind.) Tribune in the early 1990s when all this shit started to hit the fan. I wrote an op-ed piece defending the Oliver Stone film "JFK," which is posted on my blog. Pretty obscure, I know, but the fact that I was already CIA property since the 1950s as a Monarch kid made me more visible than I otherwise would have been.<br><br>Many victims of the covert war on whistle-blowers and activists are far more accomplished and better known than me. Authors Alex Constantine and Leuren Moret come to mind.<br>Constantine has been a victim of electronic harassment ever since he started exposing the CIA's mind-control apparatus, and Moret was targeted after she started speaking out and writing about the use of depleted uranium by U.S. forces in Iraq. If you're not familiar with their work, it's well worth checking out.<br><br>Since all our institutions are corrupt and complicit in the cover-up, all we can do is try to expose the problem to honest people on the Internet. Daily newspapers, the courts and Congress are all controlled by the Illuminati, so this is the only way we can get the word out.<br><br>For more information about the covert war on dissent:<br><br>www.catchcanada.org<br>www.stopcovertwar.com<br>www.raven1.net<br>www.eharassment.ca<br>www.gangstalking.ca <p></p><i></i>
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