Cheney shoots 78-year old man

[OptimisticAlgorithm]

Just a word to everyone here concerned with how the hunting story doesn't make sense: We actually have absolutely no independent evidence that ANY of this happend as a "hunting accident." We don't even know if Cheney & Co. were even in Texas until sometime Sunday. I'm thinking that the 24 hour delay was to invent a cover story and stage the evidence. For example, how de we know this wasn't a lover's quarrel over Pamela Willeford, as is now being suggested by some. Or something even nastier, as speculated about in the last RI column?<br><br>Alan Dershowitz has posted <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-dershowitz/dick-cheneys-delay_b_15715.html" target="top">some commentary</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> on this aspect over at Huffington Post. Although his commentary is accepting of the basic outline of the story, he makes an obvious point: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>A simple cost/benefit analysis suggests that he (or those advising him) must have believed that there was more to be gained than lost by a 14 hour delay that would eventually be made public. It is likely, therefore, that something happened during that 14 hour period which was worth the negative costs of the delay.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Anyone want to bet that Whittington won't live past the weekend? Perhaps none of us will ever hear his side of things. If Whittington is around next week and talking, then fine. If not, I for one, am not believing a word of this story. <p></p><i></i>

[smithtalk]

CNN today reports that Armstrong had told CNN she never saw Cheney or Whittington "drink at all on the day of the shooting until after the accident occurred, when the vice president fixed himself a cocktail back at the house." <br><br>i know everyones different but i usually have cocktails on happy or party-like occasions,<br>i think for stress i'd just have a good scotch or a glass of wine <p></p><i></i>

[mother]

exactly. What happened in New Orleans? <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

Has ANYBODY seen any attempts by the media to interview Ambassador Pamela Willeford, the other member of this hunting party? <p></p><i></i>

[heath7]

Its astouding how completely unthorough the media is allowed to be. <p></p><i></i>

[heath7]

MSM says that today Whittington was getting work done and couldn't understand what all the hubbub is about.<br><br>Too bad they won't show him say that. <br><br>Was Corpus Christi even the closest city to the accident? Because those doctors have proven themselves to be unreliable leads me to believe that part of the delay in reporting the incident had to do with finding a hospital that'd play along. <br><br>RIP Mr. Whittington.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

I've had a problem with Cheney's account that he discussed this with Armstrong and that THEY agreed that she should be the one to report the incident. My take from the first was that she decided to report the incident to a local reporter, THEN informed Cheney what she had done. Interesting take here:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001998206">www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001998206</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The ranch hostess/chief witness Katharine Armstrong first told us that she and her mother made the decision to go public of their own “volition, ” as she put, on Sunday morning, leading to the now-famous phone call to the Corpus Christi newsroom. Later she said that she had run the idea past Cheney on Sunday morning and he approved it, or at least said it was up to her.<br><br>Now the official narrative is that he discussed it with her Saturday night and they directed the disclosure “together.”<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Again, the first instinct of this man is to lie his way through the tough parts. And, I DO NOT buy the CBS claim that Cheney is suffering meltdown from the incident. He seemed pretty calm to me. I don't think it bothers him all that much. Don't worry about the man having another heart attack. There is nothing "to attack". <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 2/16/06 8:34 pm<br></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

I suppose it would be forty two kinds of felonies if we just snuck up and kicked "Him" in the ba.......Awwww, Nevermind!<br>Might break a toe or two on that thar thang o' his!<br> <p></p><i></i>

[ivanbo2003]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2006_02_12_firedoglake_archive.html">firedoglake.blogspot.com/...chive.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>All about the ongoing drama connected to the Cheney's gun episode <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=ivanbo2003>ivanbo2003</A> at: 2/16/06 11:57 pm<br></i>

[OptimisticAlgorithm]

Remember the now silent, unseen eye-witness Pamela Willeford. She's ambassador to Switzerland and Liechtenstein, right. Well I was zooming around on Google Earth, and here's what the CIA fact book has to say about the place:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Since World War II (in which Liechtenstein remained neutral), the country's low taxes have spurred outstanding economic growth. Shortcomings in banking regulatory oversight have resulted in <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>concerns about the use of the financial institutions for money laundering. Liechtenstein has, however, implemented new anti-money-laundering legislation and recently concluded a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty with the US.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>At the end of the article there's a bit more: <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">Illicit Drugs:</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--> has strengthened money-laundering controls, but money laundering remains a concern <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>due to Liechtenstein's sophisticated offshore financial services sector.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Kind of sounds like the idealized neo-con society. Maybe there's even more to this than meets the eye. All I can say is Hmmm...<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Gouda]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/02/17/shooting_report_is_wrong.html">politicalwire.com/archive...wrong.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Shooting Report is Wrong</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>"In the only publicly available, official report on last weekend's accidental shooting by Vice President Dick Cheney, a diagram of a body shows where Austin lawyer Harry Whittington was hit by pellets fired from Cheney's Italian-made shotgun... The only problem is that the diagram is wrong, by all accounts," Newsday reports.<br><br>"It shows Whittington hit on the left side of his face, neck and chest when Cheney, the Kenedy County Sheriff's office and the report itself say the wounds were on the right side."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> You know, what if this shooting incident is what cheney et al. have decided ought be the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>thing</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that will allow him to slide out of office relatively unscathed - or before some other worse turdstorm hits the fan (Raw Story developing: EXCLUSIVE: FBI LOCATES 780 PAGES OF CHENEY 'FBI FILE;' AFTER 2004 REQUEST, BUREAU STILL<br>HAS NOT RELEASED RECORDS... DEVELOPING....) <br><br>I mean, the shooting thing is pretty horrid, but Cheney might want to quit while he's ahead and use this unfortunate incident to step down, having (so far) evaded justice for his criminal involvement in the 2000 selections; 911; secret energy meetings (conflicts of interest, at least); Halliburton no-bid contracts and conflicts of interest, at least; torture; renditions; falsified intelligence leading to war; Plamegate; and on and on and on.... <br><br>Someone said, no, they'll need Cheney in office for the opening of the Iran theatre (or other surprise location) of their <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Long War</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. I don't think so. This dark government is well-equipped and should do just fine on its own.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[nomo]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I mean, WTF? Sorry??</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Cheney.html">www.nytimes.com/aponline/...heney.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Man Shot by Cheney Is Discharged From Hospital<br>Published: February 17, 2006<br>Filed at 1:28 p.m. ET<br><br>CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (AP) -- The lawyer shot by Vice President Dick Cheney during a hunting trip was being discharged from a hospital on Friday and <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>told reporters he was sorry for all the trouble Cheney had faced</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> over the past week.<br><br>''We all assume certain risks in what we do, in what activities we pursue,'' Whittington, 78, said as he stood out the hospital in a suit, his face clearly bruised.<br><br>''Accidents do and will happen,'' Whittington said, ''and that's what happened.''<br><br>Whittington thanked the hospital staff. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>He also said he was sorry for all the difficulty the vice president and his family had faced.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> He said the past weekend encompassed ''a cloud of misfortune and sadness.''<br><br>''<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>My family and I are are deeply sorry for everything that Vice President cheney and his family had to go through this week</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->,'' Whittington said, appearing emotional in front of television cameras.<br><br>Speaking in Wyoming to the stat legislature Friday, Cheney said, ''thankfully Harry Whittington is on the mend and doing very well.'' <p></p><i></i>

[seemslikeadream]

<br>Mercedes Baker Whittington.<br>Sister to James A Baker III <br><br>Small world huh?<br> <p></p><i></i>

[heath7]

Color me surprised; I didn't think we'd see him alive. <p></p><i></i>

[Avalon]

I don't see any information stating that Mrs Whittington is James Baker's sister. The two sources I find for that statement on the Net don't say where their info comes from.<br><br>Source?<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>