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Happy Birthday, CIA!

Postby Jerky » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:10 pm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the Nazi-spawned Central Inteligence Agency! <br><br>Here are two no-frills, first-steps primers on the litany of assassination plots, LSD experiments, botched invasions, overlooked moles and further evils wrought upon the world by one small part of the Shadow Government, in all your names:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.korpios.org/resurgent/CIAtimeline.html">www.korpios.org/resurgent...eline.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.attrition.org/fuck/www/fuck0318.htm">www.attrition.org/fuck/www/fuck0318.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Let's fire up some candles!

Postby marykmusic » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:46 pm

The first link didn't work for me, but the second is a concise history that touches on the major points... Thanks! --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Dead already?!

Postby Jerky » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:15 pm

Wow. They're fast. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Dead already?!

Postby wolf pauli » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:18 pm

If that first link was for Steve Kangas' "Timeline of CIA Atrocities", it's still available here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://home.att.net/~Resurgence/CIAtimeline.html">home.att.net/~Resurgence/...eline.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Atrocities-- on our tax dollars

Postby marykmusic » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:35 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The ironic thing about all this intervention is that it frequently fails to achieve American objectives. Often the newly installed dictator grows comfortable with the security apparatus the CIA has built for him. He becomes an expert at running a police state. And because the dictator knows he cannot be overthrown, he becomes independent and defiant of Washington's will. The CIA then finds it cannot overthrow him, because the police and military are under the dictator's control, afraid to cooperate with American spies for fear of torture and execution. The only two options for the U.S at this point are impotence or war. Examples of this "boomerang effect" include the Shah of Iran, General Noriega and Saddam Hussein. The boomerang effect also explains why the CIA has proven highly successful at overthrowing democracies, but a wretched failure at overthrowing dictatorships.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Like in Colombia. Our troops are there to teach warfare, but they end up becoming involved in drug- and weapons-running. The CIA taoght them how.<br><br>Good reading, that Kangas article! --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Atrocities-- on our tax dollars

Postby wolf pauli » Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:40 am

"<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Good reading, that Kangas article!</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->"<br><br>Yes, one of his many worthy efforts. And while we're "celebrating" the birthday of the CIA, let's not forget: R.I.P. Steve Kangas (1961-99). Here's the "memorial mirror" of his Liberalism Resurgent site: <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://home.att.net/~Resurgence/tenets.htm">home.att.net/~Resurgence/tenets.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>And a lengthy piece concerning Kangas' suspicious death:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.psnw.com/~bashford/kang-ev0.html">www.psnw.com/~bashford/kang-ev0.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: Happy Birthday CIA!

Postby Starman » Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:13 pm

Jerky --<br><br>Thanks for the Kangas link and overview of his cyber-activism. I didn't realize what an inspirational, principled individual he was or his importance in disseminating critical information. One thing esp. I didn't know was that the US induced a million North Vietnamese to relocate to South Vietnam, thus providing the basis for a nationalistic war for unification. <br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.jfk-info.com/discus/messages/228/238.html?1036958350">www.jfk-info.com/discus/m...1036958350</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The above link provides an excellant, concise overview of the US's ugly history of support for friendly dictators, in which the CIA played a leading role in funding and supporting brutal, repressive policies, from supplying and directing Death Squads to creating extensive right-wing networks linking criminals, mercenaries, drug-dealers and militaries, to acting as a policy arm for American and business interests in which social justice and human rights were rigorously suppressed and true democracy evicerated. The degree of historical revisionism by which the broad American public has been sold a false version of American support for progressive, democratic socieities, covering up the true story of the CIA and covert action in dozens of nations around the world in the postwar period, is only one aspect of the public's monstrous betrayal by their government. That the historical record can be so completely manipulated to hide the US's support for dictators ought to be a damn scary indication of how comprehensive the abuse of power and public influence has become. <br><br>Perhaps the more insidious underbelly of America's covert policies is the extent to which third-world civil societes have been deliberately deprived and prevented from enjoying the material benefits of mature economic and social development as a result -- the increase of poverty and decline of health and living standards extending from the imposition of US's exploitive, repressive and ruinous policies, often under the pretext of waging 'war' on Communism, is an issue that American society needs to acknowledge and accept responsibility for. Many of America's current political and economic problems extend from the same kind of incredible short-sightedness, lack of awareness and exemption from accountability that characterize America's covert action. <br><br>The really scary, awful thing about all this is that while the CIA needs at the very least to be radically reformed (if not disbanded entirely!), it has become such a secretive, sheltered repository of enormous influence and power (with authority to appropriate black budget funds via line-item appropriations from any of the Federal Government's 29 financial agencies) that it's virtually impossible such a thing can happen --especially under the present neocon regime where secrecy and abuse of power have become institutionalized to an unprecedented extent. In the process of resisting governmental abuse and trying to institute progressive reform so as to restore American self-government to a semblance of its ideals, the public needs to know the truth of the truly terrible, unconscionable horrors that have been done in their names by way of such agencies as the CIA.<br><br>The same site also features Ramsey Clark's excellant article, 'The Corruption of Covert Actions', published in the Covert Action Quarterly fall '98 issue. He very presciently anticipated the US's manipulation of terrorism to create the pretext for a new militant growth-industry, which we've seen post 911 as the neocon's agenda for radical expansion of police state powers and massive increase of military spending vis-a-vis it's 'perpetual war' agenda.<br> "The new evil empires, terrorism, Islam, barely surviving socialist and would-be socialist states, economic competitors, uncooperative leaders of defenseless nations, and most of all the masses of impoverished people, overwhelmingly people of color, are the inspiration for new campaigns by the U.S. government ... to shoot first and ask questions later, to exploit, to demonize and destroy. <br> "The CIA is rapidly expanding its manpower for covert operations against these newfound enemies. The National Security apparatus, with major new overseas involvement by the FBI, is creating an enormous new anti-terrorism industry exceeding in growth rate all other government activities." <br> And also:<br> "The U.S. is not nearly so concerned that its acts be kept secret from their intended victims as it is that the American people not know of them. The Cambodians knew they were being bombed. So did the Libyans. The long suffering Iraqis know every secret the U.S. government conceals from the American people and every lie it tells them. Except for surprise attacks, it is primarily from the American people that the U.S. government must keep the true nature and real purpose of so many of its domestic and foreign acts secret while it manufactures fear and falsehood to manipulate the American public. The reasons for and effects of government covert acts and cultivated fear, with the hatred it creates, must remain secret for the U.S. to be able to send missiles against unknown people, deprive whole nations of food and medicine, and arrest, detain, and deport legal residents from the U.S. on secret allegations, without creating domestic outrage.<br> "As never before, it is imperative that the American people care about and know what their government is doing in their name. That we be demanding of government, skeptical, critical, even a little paranoid, because not to suspect the unthinkable has been made a dangerous naiveté by a government that does unthinkable things and believes it knows best. We must challenge controlling power in America that seeks to pacify the people by bread and circuses and relies on violence, deception, and secrecy to advance its grand plans for the concentration of wealth and power in the hands of the few."<br>*<br><br>Also featured is Robert Parry's 'Towards the Brink', a critique of America's lack of awareness of much of its recent actions in the world, which in many of his writings he refers to as its 'Lost History' -- resulting from the inordinate influence of mass media (which it's been well established have been thoroughly infiltrated by the CIA) and prominant think-tank and academic institutions. <br> Parry's observations are even more appropriate today than when he wrote a week after 911, as we've seen an even greater distortion of news and facts -- following the same script revealed in the Downing Street Minutes, ie., 'facts being fixed around the policy' -- THAT'S how utterly dismissive the present administration is about information and news that doesn't fit its preconceived notions or that contradicts its neocon agenda:<br><br>"One of the chief reasons that this history has been “lost” is the powerful influence that conservatives exercise over today's U.S. news media, both directly through conservative outlets, such as Fox News and the Washington Times, and indirectly by going after mainstream journalists who report facts that put Ronald Reagan in a bad light. Many working journalists remain frightened of being labeled a "liberal" or a "blame-America-firster," in Jeane Kirkpatrick's famous formulation. <br><br>"The danger this represents to an informed U.S. policy has been compounded by the laziness of other journalists who have found it easier and safer to obsess about people’s sex lives and other trivial issues. Over the past eight years or more, the U.S. news media has trumpeted relatively minor “Clinton scandals,” such as the Whitewater real estate deal, the Travel Office firings, the Paula Jones sexual harassment claims, and the Monica Lewinsky case. <br><br>"Even when official bodies have acknowledged gross misdeeds of the 1980s – as the CIA inspector general did in 1998 in confirming the problem with contra-drug trafficking or as a Guatemalan truth commission did in 1999 in revealing the genocide against the Mayans – the U.S. news media showed little interest."<br>-- Robert Parry<br>*****<br><br>Nobody (or hardly) on this board doesn't understand how deeply, terribly wrong things are, or that substantial change is critical to avert, or at least minimize, the multi-front and interlinked crises we are approaching as the result of unwise, irresponsible policies and ossified, narrow-minded destructive thinking by our so-called economic and political 'leaders' -- perfectly reflected in this nation's horribly destructive covert actions with their legacy of death and suffering, deception and corruption, and the tendency of idealogue apologists and covert policy insiders to justify the awful consequences in terms of fighting Communism -- too often without having (or showing) even the most minimal grasp of actual facts or that hidden, alterior economic motives were typically the true agenda behind the US's covert actions.<br> <br>Noteable quotes:<br>I believe that if we had and would keep our dirty, bloody, dollar-soaked fingers out of the business of these [Third World] nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive at a solution of their own.... And if unfortunately their revolution must be of the violent type because the "haves" refuse to share with the "have-nots" by any peaceful method, at least what they get will be their own, and not the American style, which they don't want and above all don't want crammed down their throats by Americans."<br>-- General David Sharp, former US Marine Commandant,1966<br>*****<br>" By the later years of the Reagan regime, a preferred nomenclature suited to U.S. interests became standardized for the Third World. In the case of nations to be rolled back (e.g., Nicaragua), governments were called terrorist and the insurgents were labeled democratic. In the case of countries to be supported against "communist" insurgencies (e.g., El Salvador and the Philippines), the governments were called democratic and the insurgents were labeled terrorists. " -- from the book Rollback by Thomas Bodenheimer and Robert Gould<br>*****<br>" If they do it it's terrorism, if we do it, it's fighting for freedom. "<br>-- a U.S. Ambassador in Central America in the 1980s, asked to explain how such U.S. actions as the mining of Nicaragua's harbors and bombing of airports differed from the acts of terrorism that the U.S. condemned around the world. <br><br>Deadly Deceits<br>" ... the operative principles dictating U.S. support and hostility in the Third World have been business criteria first, military convenience second, and any humanistic considerations third and thus effectively irrelevant. In fact, they are less than irrelevant -- they are in conflict with the first two criteria, and therefore ... humanizing forces [become] 'threats'. " -- Edward Herman, economist and media analyst<br>*****<br>"The torturers from the start had said that the United States supported them and that was what counted."<br>-- Amnesty International report on Greece in the 1960s under US-supported dictator George Papadoupolus<br>*****<br>" It is not a question of reluctance on the part of CIA officials to speak to us. Instead it is a question of our reluctance, if you will, to seek information and knowledge on subjects which I personally, as a Member of Congress and as a citizen, would rather not have." -- U.S. Senator Leverett Saltonstall, 1966 <p></p><i></i>
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bringing it home

Postby rain » Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:52 am

some have tried to tag the whole infestation with the 'nasty' thing to Paper Clip. nuh, uh. peel another layer of the onion.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rense.com/general66/butler.htm">www.rense.com/general66/butler.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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