Federal Reserve. Is this the world's greatest scam/NWO?

by **DrDebugDU** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:04 pm

While research Kennedy, I came accross the Federal Reserve. Kennedy was considering to limit or perhaps abolish the usurpation of authority over the national currency by the Wall Street and London interests controlling the Federal Reserve System (1) The United States Central Banks are OWNED by ten private banks who also control the Bank of England (5) * Chase Manhattan, New York (part of J.P. Morgan (3) ) * Goldman, Sachs, New York * Israel Moses Seif, Italy * Kuhn Loeb, New York (connected to Warburg and Rothschild) * Lehman Brothers, New York * Rothschild, London * Rothschild, Berlin * Lazard Brothers, Paris * Warburg, Amsterdam (connected to Rothschild) * Warburg, Hamburg (connected to Rothschild) Nobody ever dared to touch this construction, because they can technically pull the plug on the USD ($). The Federal Reserve is PRIVATELY OWNED by Thomas D. Schauf Dear American: Pursuant to your request, I will attempt to clear up questions you have about the Federal Reserve Bank (FED). I spent much time researching the FED and these are the shocking and revealing conclusions. THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS A PRIVATE COMPANY. How did it happen? After previous attempts to push the Federal Reserve Act through Congress, a group of bankers funded and staffed Woodrow Wilson's campaign for President. He had committed to sign this act. In 1913, a Senator, Nelson Aldrich, maternal grandfather to the Rockefellers, pushed the Federal Reserve Act through Congress just before Christmas when much of Congress was on vacation (Reference 3, 4, 5). When elected, Wilson passed the FED. Later, Wilson remorsefully replied (referring to the FED), "I have unwittingly ruined my country" (Reference 17, P. 31). In 1992, taxpayers paid the FED banking system $286 billion in interest on debt the FED purchased by printing money virtually cost free. <a href="http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm">www.worldnewsstand.net/to...yowned.htm</a> This can explain why Bush keeps on spending, because the more he spends the richer a couple of Banks (partially owned by Rockefeller, ExxonMobil, Shell and some billionaires. CFR/Bilderberg/Illuminati are words repeated over and over again in the links I've found) become. It seems that they are getting money for nothing. It also meant that the USD ($) is controlled by the a couple of banks/oil companies/billionaires, who also control the British Pound. Recently the Euro was invented. So who owns the Euro. It is the European Bank. And who owns the European Bank: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> The same names appear as stockholders in the Federal Reserve, investment "advisors" in stock markets across the world, investment banking houses, the board of governors of the central banks of Europe, and so on. England is the world's largest holder of U.S. debit to this day. The roster of the European Commission reads like a European banker's reunion. The same names can be found in the "Who's Who of American Banking". <a href="http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/2/europe.htm">www.wealth4freedom.com/tr...europe.htm</a> <hr></blockquote> So what we have here is a couple of banks, oil companies and billionaires who get billions each year for nothing and always control: 1) USD 2) British Pound 3) Euro. New World Order anyone??

by **dbeach** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:15 pm

right on the money literally speaking. I think both Lincoln and JFK wanted to change the money ???? how about the woodward book that annoints greedspan as some kinda of geru... BTW did ya know that adolph gullianni was knighted by her nibs after 9/11..such a ghoul is gulianni!! ALWAYS shwing up after the disaster..Wonder how his anthrax clean-up business is going???

by **DrDebugDU** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:26 pm

> right on the money literally speaking. Yeah, I'm amazed, because they owned it all. It makes no difference. The whole fucking global economy is owned by the same bunch. BTW Harriman Brothers where Prescott Bush owned is part of the group, so the Bushes knew that this was going on and they were probably already getting hunderds of millions for nothing. > I think both Lincoln and JFK wanted to change the money ???? Lincoln set up the Bank of America. Wildrow fucked it up by signing it all away and JFK got shot before he could change it. It seems that the Federal Banks can be bought back for $450 million. But that never happens. They prefer to spend $286 billion to keep it under the current elite. > BTW did ya know that adolph gullianni was knighted by her nibs after 9/11..such a ghoul is gulianni!! LMAO Well he pretended to care. That's why he was knighted. The royal families are getting quite a lot of $$$ from the Federal Reserve scam as well. Figures <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> :

by **dbeach** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:05 pm

sir ghoulianni is just another wanna be that the elites are paying some attention to..I call him the afterburner.. sherman.s. has photocopy ..kid ya not ..of queenies bank account with her ameriken cuzin opium poppy it would all be kinda funny if wasnt so deadly.. what a bunchof nazi privleged elites pampered in the blood of Patriots and Peasants

by **DrDebugDU** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:14 pm

> what a bunchof nazi privleged elites pampered in the blood of Patriots and Peasants What is the difference between Queen Elisabeth and Poppy Bush? They come from the same background. Actually there is one difference. Elisabeth is not allowed to do politics and Poppy did. I wouldn't be surprised if Elisabeth ordered Diana to be killed, because that was just as weird as JFK or Ronald Reagan.

by **dbeach** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:26 pm

Royalty is alleged to be apolitical..but that is most likely propaganda..my post which is disapperaing "demonic cabal" by norm livergood says all the lites are in on the scam including the royalty of europe and geesh folks worship these kings and queens give me a break!!

by **DrDebugDU** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:36 pm

Apolitical means for royalty is that they are not supposed to open their mouth about politics to the public <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> And it's usually better that they don't because they tend to be extreme right winged and stupid as well. Kinda like the Bush family. <img src="http://www.n-tv.de/images/200501/5477887_harry_nazi.jpg"/>

by **DrDebugDU** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:41 pm

And I know about the scam. It's called Black Nobility <a href="http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Black_Nobility">demopedia.democraticunder...k_Nobility</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Hier ein paar der Familien des "Schwarzen Adels": Haus von Finck Haus von Thurn und Taxis Haus von Thyssen-Bornemisza Haus von Guelph (U.K.) Haus von Wettin (Belgien) Haus von Bernadotte (Schweden) Haus von Liechtenstein (Liechtenstein) Haus von Oldenburg (Dänemark) Haus von Hohenzollern (Deutschland) Haus von Hannover (Deutschland) Haus von Bourbon (France) Haus von Oranien (Niederlande) Haus von Grimaldi (Monaco) Haus von Wittelsbach (Deutschland) Haus von Braganza (Portugal) Haus von Nassau (Luxemburg) Haus von Habsburg (Österreich) Haus von Savoy (Italien) Haus von Karadjordjevic (Jugoslawien) Haus von Württemberg (Deutschland) Haus von Zogu (Albanien) Familien in Italien: Agnelli, Colonna, Pallavicini <a href="http://www.vho.org/D/Geheim2/14.html">www.vho.org/D/Geheim2/14.html</a> <hr></blockquote> And that's most of the royal families in fact. Notice that our friend Fritz Thyssen. The Bush liason to Nazi Germany is listed as well. Hungarian nobility...

by **dbeach** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:44 pm

wow oh wow and we the peasants fight/die in their wars and get shiny medals..and permanent injuries elites...godda good thang a goin!!

by **RebelYell** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:45 pm

Welcome, Dr.! Here's an oldie but a goodie - A Phone Call To The Fed From Dan Benham ©1988-2002 d.benham@worldnet.att.net 9-8-2 The following is a conversation with Mr. Ron Supinski of the Public Information Department of the San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank. This is an account of that conversation. CALLER - Mr. Supinski, does my country own the Federal Reserve System? MR. SUPINSKI - We are an agency of the government. CALLER - That's not my question. Is it owned by my country? MR. SUPINSKI - It is an agency of the government created by congress. CALLER - Is the Federal Reserve a Corporation? MR. SUPINSKI - Yes CALLER - Does my government own any of the stock in the Federal Reserve? MR. SUPINSKI - No, it is owned by the member banks. CALLER - Are the member banks private corporations? MR. SUPINSKI - Yes CALLER - Are Federal Reserve Notes backed by anything? MR. SUPINSKI-Yes, by the assets of the Federal Reserve but, primarily by the power of congress to lay tax on the people. CALLER - Did you say, by the power to collect taxes is what backs Federal Reserve Notes? MR. SUPINSKI - Yes CALLER - What are the total assets of the Federal Reserve? MR. SUPINSKI - The San Francisco Bank has $36 Billion in assets. CALLER - What are these assets composed of? MR. SUPINSKI - Gold, the Federal Reserve Bank itself and government securities. CALLER - What value does the Federal Reserve Bank carry gold per oz. on their books? MR. SUPINSKI - I don't have that information but the San Francisco Bank has $1.6 billion in gold. CALLER - Are you saying the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco has $1.6 billion in gold, the bank itself and the balance of the assets is government securities? MR. SUPINSKI - Yes. CALLER - Where does the Federal Reserve get Federal Reserve Notes from? MR. SUPINSKI - They are authorized by the Treasury. CALLER - How much does the Federal Reserve pay for a $10 Federal Reserve Note? MR. SUPINSKI - Fifty to seventy cents. CALLER - How much do they pay for a $100.00 Federal Reserve Note? MR. SUPINSKI - The same fifty to seventy cents. CALLER - To pay only fifty cents for a $100.00 is a tremendous gain, isn't it? MR. SUPINSKI - Yes CALLER - According to the US Treasury, the Federal Reserve pays $20.60 per 1,000 denomination or a little over two cents for a $100.00 bill, is that correct? MR. SUPINSKI - That is probably close. CALLER - Doesn't the Federal Reserve use the Federal Reserve Notes that cost about two cents each to purchase US Bonds from the government? MR. SUPINSKI - Yes, but there is more to it than that. CALLER - Basically, that is what happens? MR. SUPINSKI - Yes, basically you are correct. CALLER - How many Federal Reserve Notes are in circulation? MR. SUPINSKI - $263 billion and we can only account for a small percentage. CALLER - Where did they go? MR. SUPINSKI - Peoples mattress, buried in their back yards and illegal drug money. CALLER - Since the debt is payable in Federal Reserve Notes, how can the $4 trillion national debt be paid-off with the total Federal Reserve Notes in circulation? MR. SUPINSKI - I don't know. CALLER - If the Federal Government would collect every Federal Reserve Note in circulation would it be mathematically possible to pay the $4 trillion national debt? MR. SUPINSKI - No CALLER - Am I correct when I say, $1 deposited in a member bank $8 can be lent out through Fractional Reserve Policy? MR. SUPINSKI - About $7. CALLER - Correct me if I am wrong but, $7 of additional Federal Reserve Notes were never put in circulation. But, for lack of better words were "created out of thin air " in the form of credits and the two cents per denomination were not paid either. In other words, the Federal Reserve Notes were not physically printed but, in reality were created by a journal entry and lent at interest. Is that correct? MR. SUPINSKI - Yes CALLER - Is that the reason there are only $263 billion Federal Reserve Notes in circulation? MR. SUPINSKI - That is part of the reason. CALLER - Am I mistaking that when the Federal Reserve Act was passed (on Christmas Eve) in 1913, it transferred the power to coin and issue our nation's money and to regulate the value thereof from Congress to a Private corporation. And my country now borrows what should be our own money from the Federal Reserve (a private corporation) plus interest. Is that correct and the debt can never be paid off under the current money system of country? MR. SUPINSKI - Basically, yes. CALLER - I smell a rat, do you? MR. SUPINSKI - I am sorry, I can't answer that, I work here. CALLER - Has the Federal Reserve ever been independently audited? MR. SUPINSKI - We are audited. CALLER - Why is there a current House Resolution 1486 calling for a complete audit of the Federal Reserve by the GAO and why is the Federal Reserve resisting? MR. SUPINSKI - I don't know. CALLER - Does the Federal Reserve regulate the value of Federal Reserve Notes and interest rates? MR. SUPINSKI - Yes CALLER - Explain how the Federal Reserve System can be Constitutional if, only the Congress of the US, which comprises of the Senate and the House of representatives has the power to coin and issue our money supply and regulate the value thereof? [Article 1 Section 1 and Section 8] Nowhere, in the Constitution does it give Congress the power or authority to transfer any powers granted under the Constitution to a private corporation or, does it? MR. SUPINSKI - I am not an expert on constitutional law. I can refer you to our legal department. CALLER - I can tell you I have read the Constitution. It does NOT provide that any power granted can be transferred to a private corporation. Doesn't it specifically state, all other powers not granted are reserved to the States and to the citizens? Does that mean to a private corporation? MR. SUPINSKI - I don't think so, but we were created by Congress. CALLER - Would you agree it is our country and it should be our money as provided by our Constitution? MR. SUPINSKI - I understand what you are saying. CALLER - Why should we borrow our own money from a private consortium of bankers? Isn't this why we had a revolution, created a separate sovereign nation and a Bill of Rights? MR. SUPINSKI - (Declined to answer). CALLER - Has the Federal Reserve ever been declared constitutional by the Supreme Court? MR. SUPINSKI - I believe there has been court cases on the matter. CALLER - Have there been Supreme Court Cases? MR. SUPINSKI - I think so, but I am not sure. CALLER - Didn't the Supreme Court declare unanimously in A.L.A. Schechter Poultry Corp. vs. US and Carter vs. Carter Coal Co. the corporative-state arrangement an unconstitutional delegation of legislative power? ["The power conferred is the power to regulate. This is legislative delegation in its most obnoxious form; for it is not even delegation to an official or an official body, presumptively disinterested, but to private persons." Carter vs. Carter Coal Co...] MR. SUPINSKI - I don't know, I can refer you to our legal department. CALLER - Isn't the current money system a house of cards that must fall because, the debt can mathematically never be paid-off? MR. SUPINSKI - It appears that way. I can tell you have been looking into this matter and are very knowledgeable. However, we do have a solution. CALLER - What is the solution? MR. SUPINSKI - The Debit Card. CALLER - Do you mean under the EFT Act (Electronic Funds Transfer)? Isn't that very frightening, when one considers the capabilities of computers? It would provide the government and all it's agencies, including the Federal Reserve such information as: You went to the gas station @ 2:30 and bought $10.00 of unleaded gas @ $1.41 per gallon and then you went to the grocery store @ 2:58 and bought bread, lunch meat and milk for $12.32 and then went to the drug store @ 3:30 and bought cold medicine for $5.62. In other words, they would know where we go, when we went, how much we paid, how much the merchant paid and how much profit he made. Under the EFT they will literally know everything about us. Isn't that kind of scary? MR. SUPINSKI - Yes, it makes you wonder. CALLER - I smell a GIANT RAT that has overthrown my constitution. Aren't we paying tribute in the form of income taxes to a consortium of private bankers? MR. SUPINSKI - I can't call it tribute, it is interest. CALLER - Haven't all elected officials taken an oath of office to preserve and defend the Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic? Isn't the Federal Reserve a domestic enemy? MR. SUPINSKI - I can't say that. CALLER - Our elected officials and members of the Federal Reserve are guilty of aiding and abetting the overthrowing of my Constitution and that is treason. Isn't the punishment of treason death? MR. SUPINSKI - I believe so. CALLER - Thank you for your time and information and if I may say so, I think you should take the necessary steps to protect you and your family and withdraw your money from the banks before the collapse, I am. MR. SUPINSKI - It doesn't look good. CALLER - May God have mercy on the souls who are behind this unconstitutional and criminal act called the Federal Reserve. When the ALMIGHTY MASS awakens to this giant hoax, they will not take it with a grain of salt. It has been a pleasure talking to you and I thank you for your time. I hope you will take my advice before it does collapse. MR. SUPINSKI - Unfortunately, it does not look good. CALLER - Have a good day and thanks for your time. MR. SUPINSKI - Thanks for calling. <a href="http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3988" target="top">Source</a>

by **dbeach** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:55 pm

rebelyell 'thats a spicey meataball.." your smokin!!!! what a scam..god I could live at some beach resort forever with just a sliver of da loot..BTW I heard quenni stole the gold from Knox yrs ago.. "what me worry??"" if ya bored check out the 10 step terror guide from AJ that I posted below..

by **DrDebugDU** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:03 pm

Good conversation. I guess it nails the points exactly. He forgot one important question as well. Money isn't fully covered with gold anymore either. So only a part of the money is covered and the rest is virtual without any backing.

by **dbeach** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:09 pm

VIRTUAL MONEY HAS NO VIRTUE AND NO MONEY!! WE in big trouble..whaddda ya think??? WW III anti-christ real Christ Mayan calander great deprression stock market crash aliens running for president in 08 global warming more tsnumais HAARP chem trails the elites are so party friendly what a great bunch of snakes..oops I mean people.. ?????? brit hume says time to invest after 7/7/05 <a href="http://sayanythingblog.com/2005/07/07/brit-hume-sees-te...">sayanythingblog.com/2005/...sees-te...</a> / know them by their words..

by **Seventhsonjr** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:17 pm

and embracing these or swallowing them whole will get this site labelled as antiSemitic and fools for the freepers too. The site where the federal reserve book is cited is an age old right wing disinformation tactic. Assholes like these get everybody excited by screaming and rantind and railing against the Marxist-Jewish bankers taking over the world with the Socialist NWO Bushes and Rockefellers. From the link you cited, for example, comes this perfect bit of disinformational bullshit: As we examine such foundations as the World Wildlife Fund, the Heritage Trust, the Nature Conservancy, the National Wildlife Federation, the Sierra Club, the World Wilderness Congress, Conservation International, the Center for Earth Resource Analysis, to name but a few, what do we find? Not so strangely, key members of the Insider institutions cited above are leading or directing every one of them. This doesn't take into consideration the UN organizations which are, at the very least, co-directed by representatives of Communist members. Why is it that so many radical leftists, mega-bankers and Corporate Marxists are suddenly concerned about our environment? Could it be that there is another agenda afoot --a "new reality?" BOW, that is not to say that the author does not make some valid points BUT, and this is a HUGE but, the point is that this whole disinformation is a blackop straw man: The BAD guys in this scenario are MARXIST JEWISH BANKERS in league with Wall Street Socialists like Kissinger and Brezinski and Carter, Rockefeller and Nixon. In other words, the whole Rothschild operation is ONE WORLDIDE ZIONIST-COMMUNIST conspiracy. I have been around this bullshit my whole life. The John Birch Society (another disinformation front for the Bushnazis) had all the asame bullshit. The most effective propaganda is 99.9% true and .1% falsity. YES bankers and financiers control the world and most of the UN and even much of the environmental movement and global population control groups and global markets and resources. But there is nothing Marxian or jewish or Communist about them. THEY ARE TOTALITARIAN CORPORATE FASCISTS. This site linked to is disinfgormational bullshit probably financed by the Bushes dirtectly with friends like Wolfowitz and the PNAC. Fan the flames of antiSemitic hate. Blame the reds, the Jews, the commies, the socialists, the Zionists, the femiNazis, the UN and the ever illusive illuminati new world orderlies. ANYTHING but call a spade a spade and calling this conspiracy what it really is: Fascism. Plain and simple corporate fascism run by Capitalist pigs and imperialist lackies and necrophiles who love the smell of death and the thrill of inflicting suffering.

by **Sweejak** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:30 am

Must see film, The Money Masters. On this page, scroll down. <a href="http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_drugsmoney.htm">www.thedossier.ukonline.c...smoney.htm</a>

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Careful - your source is a right wing disinformation site

The Money Masters.

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