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Four star US general relieved of duties

Postby emad » Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:04 pm

Senior General Is Relieved of Duties <br><br>Tuesday August 9, 2005 3:31 PM<br><br><br>WASHINGTON (AP) - The Army said Tuesday it relieved a four-star general of his command after an investigation into unspecified ``personal conduct.'' <br><br>Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes was relieved as commander of U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command on Monday by Army Chief of Staff Gen. Peter Schoomaker, according to a brief statement issued by Army headquarters at the Pentagon. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5199951,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/worldl...51,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Four star US general relieved of duties

Postby dbeach » Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:08 pm

maybe he no longer fitted in the bushevik agenda..or maybe he has the arrest warrant for herr bush..??? <p></p><i></i>
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Postby rapt » Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:15 pm

Um - no detail in that piece is there.<br><br>Perhaps this is the first shot in an effort to shake out the slime in the military as they close in on the criminal commander in chief. Would make sense to prevent an internal war.<br><br>If this is true I'd expect to see a quick acceleration in the collapse starting now. <p></p><i></i>
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he's military intelligence

Postby glooperoo » Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:27 pm

So it looks like Byrnes heads the military institutions associated with formulating standards of conduct and training soldiers in that conduct. Another general directly associated with Abu Ghraib was promoted to head one of the schools at that institution <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/news/66092.php">earlier this year</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br> Fast takes command at intelligence center<br>By Tom Beal<br>ARIZONA DAILY STAR<br> <br>FORT HUACHUCA - <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Maj. Gen. Barbara G. Fast, <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/12/politics/12abuse.html?ex=1123732800&en=f4916ca353c0c18c&ei=5070&oref=login">one of the top intelligence officers in Iraq during the Abu Ghraib prison scandal</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, took command of the U.S. Army Intelligence Center here Wednesday and said she had been "appalled" by photographs of soldiers humiliating prisoners.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br> <br>"When you look at those pictures you are appalled that there was conduct of this type. It is not within the standards and what we teach our soldiers to do," she said in a press conference after her installation as head of the school that trains the Army in intelligence and interrogation techniques.<br> <br>"I think we all feel that there was certainly behavior and certainly activity that did not reflect well on any of us," she said.<br> <br>She said the photographs made her and others feel that "this isn't the America we know. So, of course, you have to look at these pictures and feel revulsion and feel 'Gosh, what could I have done? Could I have done something to prevent this?' "<br> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Fast was named deputy commanding general at Fort Huachuca in July 2003, shortly before she was deployed to Iraq to serve as deputy chief of staff for intelligence for Coalition Joint Task Force 7.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br> <br>She returned last June and has served as the senior intelligence officer at the fort.<br> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Fast was criticized in one independent report to Congress, which said she "failed to advise the commander properly on directives and policies needed" for interrogation techniques and related activities. No disciplinary action was recommended for Fast.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The announcement of her assumption of command came last week, a day after a classified Pentagon report that absolved U.S. military leaders of direct responsibility for physical and sexual mistreatment of prisoners was given to the Senate Armed Services Committee.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Nobody likes waiting," Fast said of the delay in assuming command, but she said the investigations into the scandal were "a very important thing to do," and that the Army had learned lessons that would be incorporated into training at the intelligence school.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br> <br>"We have taken and applied all the lessons," she said. "This is a fragile business because it's very dangerous and your buddies are dying," she said.<br> <br>Fast said new training manuals and exercises will help soldiers deal with situations that begin as "acceptable and may go over the line."<br> <br>"We want to teach them this here," she said, and make it clear that soldiers have "a duty to report" actions that do go over the line.<br> <br>Fast said the Army has also recognized the need for greater "cultural sensitivity."<br> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The passing of the colors - the flag that symbolizes command - was done by Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes, commanding general of the U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command, under which the Intelligence School operates.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br> <br>The school and fort have been without a commander since Maj. Gen. James Marks retired from the Army after 29 years in June 2004.<br> <br>"It is about time," Byrnes said, as he stepped to the podium for his remarks.<br> <br>Byrnes lauded Fast for making Fort Huachuca "a center of innovation" and praised her service in Iraq, saying her efforts directly contributed to the capture of many members of the former Iraqi regime "including Saddam Hussein himself."<br> <br>Fast, in a brief speech, said she first came to Fort Huachuca's Intelligence School in 1976 as a second lieutenant. "I never dreamed I'd come back here as commanding general," she said.<br> <br>Byrnes said 10,000 soldiers have been trained in intelligence-gathering techniques at Fort Huachuca since July 2004 and another 10,000 trained by Fort Huachuca instructors at other Army posts.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><br>        <br>U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC) Headquartered at Ft Monroe, VA. - http://www.tradoc.army.mil/<br><br>TRADOC trains the Army&#65533;s soldiers and develops leaders, supports training in units, develops doctrine, establishes standards, recruits the force, and builds the future Army.<br><br>The TRADOC Deputy Chief of Staff, G-2 (intelligence) is responsible for analyzing, developing, describing, and applying the Operational Environment for current and future Army Doctrine, Organization, Training, Materiel, Leadership, Personnel and Facility development. TRADOC's G-2 produces the capstone concept document - - The Operational Environment, which frames future battlespace conditions and threats and serves as the benchmark for Army and Department of Defense Transformation. The G-2 also provides the critical linkage between what we know and understand about the current operational environment and what is recognized as the trends and variables within the environment that will impact on the readiness of the current force and future capabilities of the Objective Force.<br><br>Another critical element within TRADOC is the Intelligence Center located at Ft Huachuca Arizona. http://usaic.hua.army.mil/index.htm This center is focused on Leading, Training, Equipping and Supporting the world's premier corps of Military Intelligence Professionals - imbued with a warrior spirit, self-discipline and mutual respect. MI Soldiers work at all echelons, with tactical, operational and strategic commands; they are on point - always out front providing essential and critical intelligence to the commander. Great pride is taken in our ability to maintain a reputation for professionalism, caring, and responsiveness to the needs of the MI Corps and the Army. We are committed to Good Stewardship of the Environment and take pride in the Quality of Life on this post.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Here's a bit more on the training center that Major General Fast <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.ceami.army.mil/locations/large-populations.asp#tradoc">recently assumed command of</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><br>U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC) Headquartered at Ft Monroe, VA. - http://www.tradoc.army.mil/<br><br>TRADOC trains the Army&#65533;s soldiers and develops leaders, supports training in units, develops doctrine, establishes standards, recruits the force, and builds the future Army.<br><br>The TRADOC Deputy Chief of Staff, G-2 (intelligence) is responsible for analyzing, developing, describing, and applying the Operational Environment for current and future Army Doctrine, Organization, Training, Materiel, Leadership, Personnel and Facility development. TRADOC's G-2 produces the capstone concept document - - The Operational Environment, which frames future battlespace conditions and threats and serves as the benchmark for Army and Department of Defense Transformation. The G-2 also provides the critical linkage between what we know and understand about the current operational environment and what is recognized as the trends and variables within the environment that will impact on the readiness of the current force and future capabilities of the Objective Force.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Another critical element within TRADOC is the Intelligence Center located at Ft Huachuca Arizona. http://usaic.hua.army.mil/index.htm This center is focused on Leading, Training, Equipping and Supporting the world's premier corps of Military Intelligence Professionals - imbued with a warrior spirit, self-discipline and mutual respect. MI Soldiers work at all echelons, with tactical, operational and strategic commands; they are on point - always out front providing essential and critical intelligence to the commander. Great pride is taken in our ability to maintain a reputation for professionalism, caring, and responsiveness to the needs of the MI Corps and the Army. We are committed to Good Stewardship of the Environment and take pride in the Quality of Life on this post.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>So, it appears the Byrnes is at least somewhat related to Abu Ghraib in that he overseas the military intelligence institutions associated with the scandal.<br><br><br>Here's another random piece <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www4.army.mil/news/article.php?story=7539">of recent Byrnes news</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Germany shows gratitude to U.S. Army<br>By Cheryl Boujnida<br>June 30, 2005<br><br>WASHINGTON (Army News Service, June 30, 2005) – Germany showed its commitment to the U.S. Army when its embassy officials presented the nation’s second-highest service award June 29 to an American general.<br><br>German Ambassador Wolfgang Ischinger presented Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes, U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command’s commanding general, with the Federal Republic of Germany’s Knight Commander's Cross of the Order of Merit at a ceremony. The award was presented to Byrnes on behalf of Germany’s Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.<br><br>“We are truly thankful for his personal commitment, which was the driving force of intensified positive military relations between the United States of America and Germany,” said Col. Heinz Feldmann, Army attaché to the German embassy.<br><br>Byrnes, who assumed the duties of TRADOC commander in 2002, works with the German Army Liaison Organization, also located at Fort Monroe, Va.<br><br>Feldman said that over the past few years, joint projects initiated and supported by Byrnes enabled them to reach a level of comprehensive bi-lateral cooperation that is of paramount importance to the German Army and “a strong pillar of the transatlantic bridge.”<br><br>“In times that were difficult for both armies, he proved to be a true friend by appreciating Germany’s points of view, and maintaining a high level of mutual relations. Inspiring fresh initiatives with a professional touch, he focused on maintaining and improving interoperability between our forces,” Feldmann said.<br><br>“This impacts our Army because it underscores the continuing strong cooperation and mutual support between the German and American armies,” Byrnes said.<br><br>Byrnes stressed that the two armies have been together for a very long time supporting past missions associated with the Cold War, and will continue to take on future missions together in a post-Cold War era.<br><br>“The future is about multinational operations. We need to focus on training, leadership development and command and control,” he added.<br><br>He explained both armies work together everyday, and although the mutual cooperation is not prominent in the press, it is the expectation of American and German citizens.<br><br>“We should all be proud of the work accomplished behind the scenes. We show that in times of conflict, we can work together to accomplish the mission and secure our citizens’ privileges,” Byrnes said.<br><br>Feldman said, “We’re fighting the war on terrorism with America too – our Soldiers total 2,000 in Afghanistan. It’s paramount that Germany has the support of and access to the U.S. Army.”<br><br>Hubertus von Puttkamer, rear admiral defense attaché, said personal contact is essential to good relations with a country.<br><br>“Many people here have relatives or friends in Germany. Those personal connections unite us,” von Puttkamer said. “The bonds between Germany and America are very strong.<br><br>“Our friendship is a reflection of the heart, which is more important than the brain - we will continue to express our heartfelt loyalty to one another.” <br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I guess the thing to watch is for any Abu Ghraib scandals involving Byrnes in the months ahead. Given the nature of the institution he's commanded, that seems possible. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: he's military intelligence

Postby dbeach » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:14 pm

<br>so maybe he is no longer useful for der fuhrer<br><br><br>'I guess the thing to watch is for any Abu Ghraib scandals involving Byrnes in the months ahead. Given the nature of the institution he's commanded, that seems possible. "<br><br>whats a generalisimos retirement not counting the dirty money??<br><br>$ 250,000/yr??? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: he's military intelligence

Postby toscaveritas » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:04 am

i think there is more to it than meets the eye!<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> General Schoomaker served as the Commanding General of the Joint Special Operations Command from July 1994 to August 1996, followed by command of the United States Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg, North Carolina through October 1997. His most recent assignment prior to assuming duties as the Army Chief of Staff was as Commander in Chief, United States Special Operations Command at MacDill Air Force Base,<!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline"> Florida</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->, from November 1997 to <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">November 2000</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-general10aug10,0,1311001.story?coll=la-tot-promo&track=hpmorenews">www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-general10aug10,0,1311001.story?coll=la-tot-promo&track=hpmorenews</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>for him to be put in FLORIDA in 2000 he had to be TRUSTED by the BUSHES<br><br>plus, he is SPECIAL FORCES<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://slate.msn.com/id/2084212/">slate.msn.com/id/2084212/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's reputed choice to be the new Army chief of staff—retired Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker—may be his most intriguing appointment to date, and confirms beyond any doubt Rummy's determination to foment a radical restructuring of the Army.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The first unusual thing about Schoomaker—and I should caution here that it has not yet been confirmed whether he'll take the job—is that he is a <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">retired</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--> general. He left the military three years ago. Usually, chiefs of staff are named from the ranks of active-duty generals.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The second, and most telling, point is that, from the early 1980s on, Schoomaker served with the<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> "shadow soldiers,"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> rising in 1994 to be head of the U.S. Joint Special Operations Command and then, from 1997 till his retirement, commander in chief of the Army's Special Operations Forces. [Correction, June 11, 2003: On his retirement, Schoomaker was the commander in <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>chief of special operations forces for all the U.S. armed services</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, not just the Army's.]<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>n fact, Schoomaker appears to have played a major, behind-the-scenes role in creating that vision. He has long been good friends with Gen. Tommy Franks, the Rumsfeld favorite who, as head of U.S. Central Command, led the battle for Afghanistan and Gulf War II.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>so, he's a buddy of Franks and Rummy-- hmmm<br><br> and then this:<br><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>United States Military Forces Begin Coup, Top US General Arrested By Anti-Coup Factions, Russian and Chinese Military Forces Go To High Alert</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br><br><br>i'm usually very careful with Sorcha Faal's writings, but this together, just looks interesting<br> <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index796.htm">www.whatdoesitmean.com/index796.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=toscaveritas>toscaveritas</A> at: 8/9/05 11:13 pm<br></i>
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Re: he's military intelligence

Postby dbeach » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:34 am

Sorch is reading my mind..<br><br>no coincidences<br><br>Col Don deGrande forecast the Military coup against bush last yr..he was unspecific as to when..<br><br>I always say where are the true PATRIOTS in the govt and military and when is bush/cheney going to be arrested for TREASON//Including poppy o and the others bushies..???<br><br>still can't trust the sorch..possibly a kgb shill ?? who knows..??<br><br>BUT these are strange days and loyalties are shifting like those saudi sands..not to mention the beach sands<br><br>PEACE! <p></p><i></i>
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Sexual misconduct

Postby Peachtree Pam » Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:29 am

Here is a bit more info (disinfo from two suspect sources, AP and CNN?):<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/08/09/general.relieved.ap/index.html">edition.cnn.com/2005/US/0...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>WASHINGTON (AP) -- In an extraordinary move, the Army sacked a four-star general who was the subject of a Defense Department investigation into alleged sexual misconduct, an official said Tuesday.<br><br>Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes, commander of Army Training and Doctrine Command, was approaching retirement when the decision to relieve him of duty was made by the Army chief of staff, Gen. Peter Schoomaker.<br><br>The Army announced no specific allegation against Byrnes, but a senior official said it involved unspecified sexual misconduct. The official spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the allegation.<br><br>Disciplinary action against officers is not rare, but it is extremely unusual in the case of a four-star general. An Army spokeswoman, Lt. Col. Pamela Hart, said records from the General Officer Management Office show no cases in recent history in which a four-star general has been relieved of duty for disciplinary reasons.<br><br>Byrnes, 52, a Vietnam veteran who entered the Army in 1969 as a second lieutenant, ranked third in seniority among the Army's 11 four-star generals.<br><br>A two-sentence statement issued by Army headquarters in the Pentagon said Byrnes had been relieved of his position. It gave no reason except to say, "The investigation upon which this relief is based is undergoing further review to determine the appropriate final disposition of this matter."<br><br>A spokesman at Training and Doctrine Command, Harvey Perritt, said Byrnes was unavailable to comment.<br><br>In his position as commander of Training and Doctrine Command, Byrnes oversaw all Army training programs and the development of war-fighting guidelines. The organization operates 33 training schools and centers on 16 Army installations and is headquartered at Fort Monroe, Virginia. Byrnes had been commander since November 2002.<br><br>Among the command's responsibilities is to oversee Army recruiting and initial recruit training, as well as operation of the Combined Arms Center at Fort Leavenworth, which is responsible for leadership development and the writing of warfighting doctrine. Coincidentally, the commander of the Combined Arms Center, Lt. Gen. William Wallace, was nominated in April to succeed Byrnes at Training and Doctrine Command.<br><br>Wallace has not yet been confirmed by the Senate for promotion to four-star rank, so the Army chose Byrnes' top deputy, Lt. Gen. Anthony R. Jones, to take over immediately as the acting commander.<br><br>Asked about the case at a Pentagon news conference, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld had little to say.<br><br>"It's something that's being handled in the proper channels, and it's not something that it would be appropriate for me to get involved with," he said.<br><br>Other officials said the matter was investigated by the Defense Department Inspector General, and the findings were now being considered by senior Army officials to determine whether further action should be taken.<br><br>Among the four-star general or flag officers to have been relieved of command in recent years was Navy Adm. Richard C. Macke, sacked as commander of Pacific Command in 1995 for remarks he made about the case of U.S. Marines accused of raping a 12-year-old Japanese girl. Gen. Michael Dugan was fired as chief of staff of the Air Force in 1990 for comments to reporters about planning for the 1991 Gulf War.<br><br>Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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exasperating

Postby smiths » Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:41 am

i have just searched every bloody search engine, word combination, news site i can and i find no other mention of an ongoing, current coup d'etat in america or within the armed forces.<br>is it happening? is bush in saudi arabia? is it connected to israel or anything else at all?<br><br>why the hell do people write such stuff if they dont have any evidence or real backing with it? it drags everyone in and makes the whole concept of countering the official propoganda with truth-seeking look stupid.<br><br>btw. george bush has been kidnapped by aliens and is getting hideously probed whilst gautemalan highlanders hold the u.n. to ransom and demand an end to fancy salads and croissants for breakfast,<br> i myself predict asparagus prices to soar by 1000% and week long queues to buy pogo sticks and yoyos <p></p><i></i>
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who's couping who?

Postby albion » Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:11 am

according to david 'orcinus' neiwert, schoomaker defended rumsfeld on abu ghraib, and was at waco with general boykin:<br><br>Unbroken Chain<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2004_05_09_dneiwert_archive.html#108424458408788027">dneiwert.blogspot.com/200...8408788027</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Boykin, Schoomaker and Cambone: A Bushian trifecta<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2004_05_09_dneiwert_archive.html#108440547680157734">dneiwert.blogspot.com/200...7680157734</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>hard to say who's who here but it sounds like the kind of people kay griggs talked about. <p></p><i></i>
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Sexual misconduct?

Postby Peachtree Pam » Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:46 am

Albion,<br><br>Too right, sexual misconduct is the fast track to the top, according to Griggs, not the way out. <p></p><i></i>
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It was an "extra-marital" affair

Postby Peachtree Pam » Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:55 am

I guess this has never happened before in the army, and you have to nip these things in the bud. Can you spell military coup?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3303832">www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssis...on/3303832</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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More on Fast and another military punk under Sanchez,

Postby Peachtree Pam » Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:15 am

both of whom have been promoted. This is from Stars and Stripes<br><br>Maj. Gen. Fast, former aide to Sanchez at Abu Ghraib, takes intelligence post <br><br><br>By Jon R. Anderson, Stars and Stripes<br>European edition, Tuesday, March 15, 2005<br><br><br><br>ARLINGTON, Va. — Two of the top officers who served under Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez in Iraq — and were responsible for oversight of the units at Abu Ghraib detention facility at the time — have been given new high-profile jobs.<br><br>Maj. Gen. Barbara Fast, who served as chief of intelligence for Sanchez, will take command of the U.S. Army Intelligence Center at Fort Huachuca, Ariz., on Wednesday.<br><br>Cleared of wrongdoing by military investigators, Fast will be handed the colors of the service’s main intelligence training schoolhouse from Gen. Kevin Byrnes, the commander of the Army’s Training and Doctrine Command, according to Fort Huachuca spokesman Maj. Paul Karnaze.<br><br>The top post at the Intelligence Center has been vacant since Maj. Gen. James A. Marks left in June. Although Fast arrived as Marks was leaving with orders to take over the school, her assignment was put into a nine-month limbo as investigators looked into her role in Abu Ghraib scandal.<br><br>An investigation led by former Defense Secretary James Schlesinger released in August criticized Fast, finding that she “failed to advise (Sanchez) properly on the directives and policies needed” for interrogations and for inadequately monitoring CIA operations at the detention facilities.<br><br>Since then, however, internal Army investigations have cleared Fast of any wrongdoing.<br><br>“She’s maintained that she had a job to do and got on with,” Karnaze said. While he said Fast will offer a brief news conference after assuming command, he does not expect her to entertain questions about Abu Ghraib.<br><br>“Her focus is on the future now,” he said.<br><br>Meanwhile, Maj. Gen. Walter Wojdakowski, Sanchez’s deputy commander in Iraq, has been given a position of greater responsibility as acting deputy commander of Army forces in Europe, directly under Gen. B.B. Bell, said Lt. Col. Jane Crichton, a U.S. Army Europe spokeswoman. The position is traditionally a three-star assignment requiring Senate approval.<br><br>During his yearlong tour in Iraq, Wojdakowski was responsible for overseeing V Corps’ “separate brigades,” including the 800th Military Police Brigade and the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade. Both units were responsible for operations at Abu Ghraib and their commanders were harshly criticized for weak and ineffectual leadership that directly contributed to the abuses, according to several investigations.<br><br>An investigation led by Lt. Gen. Anthony Jones concluded that Wojdakowski along with Sanchez “failed to ensure proper staff oversight of detention and interrogation operations,” highlighting Wojdakowski’s “direct oversight” of the two brigade commanders.<br><br>Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, commander of the 800th MP Brigade, who recently received a letter of reprimand for leadership failures, said Wojdakowski once told her “I don’t care if we’re holding 15,000 innocent civilians! We’re winning the war!” according to a sworn statement by Karpinski obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union through the Freedom of Information Act.<br><br>Both Wojdakowski and Sanchez — who remains commander of V Corps — are still under investigation.<br><br>Until recently Wojdakowski had remained Sanchez’s deputy in Germany, after returning from Iraq. According to the Army General Officer Management Office in Washington, Wojdakowski had been reassigned, serving as “special assistant” to Bell, a job that does not otherwise exist at that level.<br><br>In real terms, Crichton said, Wojdakowski now works as Bell’s acting deputy and chief of staff. Traditionally either job is a career-enhancing position usually reserved for leaders being groomed for promotion.<br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: More on Fast and another military punk under Sanchez,

Postby Dreams End » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:57 am

smiths, <br><br>I understand your frustration. People who've been posting here for awhile already have some background and, if they are like me, didn't always keep the links. <br><br>I'm looking for the Col deGrande story. I don't think anyone ever confirmed that guy actually existed. More disturbing to me was this story by Wayne Madsen. Former NSA, this guy now rights for all kinds of left/progressive sites. He always has big "insider" tips that sound really detailed but they don't always pan out. His info about a potential coup....supposedly triggered by election fixes in '04 (this was written before the elections) was reported in a supportive manner. He was urging leftists and activists to SUPPORT such a coup. This bothers me because, as bad as these Bushies are, if you look at the history of all the hundreds of interventions by the US military over the last 200 years, exactly...hang on...let me calculate...let's see, carry the 3...aha, here it is: exactly 0 have resulted in a more democratic country. I can't see any reason that would be any different here. Here's Madsen. Note, this can be found somewhere on his own site or on counterpunch, where I first saw it, but I just grabbed the first link, which was a reprint on some random bulletin board.<br><br>By the way, if you've never actually seen "Seven Days in May" which is referenced in this article, go rent it. A rightwing military coup is in the planning and one officer has found out but no elected officials will believe him. Interesing that it came out in 1964...so it certainly had to have been in the planning stages in 1963. that's another story.<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>U.S. plans for martial law, tele-governance, suspension of elections<br>By John Stanton and Wayne Madsen<br>Online Journal Contributing Writers<br>May 16, 200—Since September 11, 2001, the Bush Regime, the US Congress and senior personnel in the U.S. military have been busy planning their escape routes from Washington, DC, and surrounding communities in the event that the continental United States is attacked by another 19 global insurgents possessing little more than wit, dedication, an unrepentant animosity towards America, and an ample dose of radioactive material packed inside an explosive-laden metallic suitcase.<br><br>Corporate executives have ensured that they too will find a place in the bunker along side their effete government colleagues through organizations such as National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (NSTAC). That group is composed of "up to 30 industry chief executives representing the major communications and network service providers and information technology, finance, and aerospace companies . . . the NSTAC provides industry-based advice and expertise to the president on issues and problems related to implementing national security and emergency preparedness . . ." Defense contracting giants play a prominent role on the NSTAC and include Lockheed Martin, SAIC, Oracle (the company that volunteered to develop a post-911 national identification database), Boeing, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman and CSC. The chairman of the NSTAC also conveniently serves as an ex-officio member of Homeland Security czar Tom Ridge's President's Homeland Security Advisory Council.<br><br>The U.S. government and its military and corporate officials are fond of making the pitch to the American public that the U.S. Constitution mandates that their survival, above all others, is absolutely necessary to ensure that the government that emanates from that document survives a debilitating attack. It is astonishing that the American public believes such absurdities. But one has to admire the boldly craven and callous "doomsday" planning of the Bush regime and its military centurions and corporate nabobs, who take pleasure in gutting the environment, the workforce, the economy, and the world in general. These are the same people who played hide-and-seek with the American public in September 2001.<br><br>We the People?<br><br>On September 11, 2001, one of the commercial aircraft commandeered by suspected Saudi and Yemeni insurgents made its final approach to its destination, the Pentagon—located roughly three miles across the Potomac River from the U.S. Capitol and White House in Washington, DC—by following Columbia Pike, in Arlington, Virginia, to its target. The Pentagon is located adjacent to the glitzy Pentagon City Mall in Arlington, Virginia, not Washington, DC, as much of the media conveniently fudged the geographic difference. Although not Manhattan, Arlington is a densely packed and diverse community of close to 200,000 people. It hosts five high schools and two notable colleges: Marymount University and George Mason Law School. When the aircraft slammed into the Pentagon, residents of Arlington—including many in office buildings, stores, and schools in the "South Side"—felt the thud of the explosion as the aircraft incinerated a block of the Pentagon and killed 123 employees and contractors on the ground and 64 on the Boeing 757.<br><br>Arlington firefighters, police and EMT units were on the scene at the Pentagon—as were their counterparts at the World Trade Center in New York City—within seconds of the aircraft's explosion. In Arlington's case, the rapidity of response was due to alert firefighters and police officers who noticed the aircraft off-path as it flew dangerously low over the heavily populated Columbia Pike corridor in Arlington that leads directly to the Pentagon. They alerted their colleagues in the Arlington Fire and Police Departments that something was terribly wrong. Someone at the controls of the aircraft knew to pick up the visual of the "Pike" as it is called by Arlingtonians, the same way other pilots pick up the Potomac River on visual to land at Reagan National Airport.<br><br>Local residents scrambled to get their youngsters out of schools where the hallways were filled with the crying and unsettled. Teachers, counselors, and coaches did all they could to calm students' nerves. Local firefighters and police were busy trying to give relief to the Pentagon structure and its mangled people. Local hospitals were alerted to receive Pentagon injured. The same scene was played out in New York City.<br><br>As mayhem broke loose in Arlington, Virginia, adjacent Washington, and New York City, the response of those who are tasked with national governance provides important clues as to who will live and die during the next disaster. Prior to 9/11, the only insight into continuity-of-government planning was provided by Stanley Kubrick's Doctor Strangelove, which through its characters, portrayed dimwitted "leaders"—most un-elected—sheltering themselves ahead of their populations.<br><br>9/11 Hide and Seek<br><br>Dick Cheney was hustled into a bunker and ultimately ended up in a cave running the Shadow Government. U.S. Supreme Court-anointed George Bush II and staff were whisked from an elementary school class—minus the children, teachers and school staff—- to undisclosed locations scattered across the land. Military installations barricade their gates. As F-16s patrolled the skies, government officials lauded the protection they were providing despite the fact that the fighters were there to shoot down commercial passenger planes. Leaders of both parties in Congress, and, in fact, all of Congress, were escorted from Washington, DC, as if Gort from the Hollywood classic "The Day the Earth Stood Still" had gone on a rampage.<br><br>The Bush Regime's senior appointees and bureaucrats sprinted off to hardened bunkers or were taken by helicopter, like their military counterparts, to places like Site R in Pennsylvania to "monitor" the situation. Many of the local corporate senior managers and local newsreaders instructed the "public" to remain calm and not panic. A commonplace refrain from this lot was to "keep busy, be productive." The lone Superpower, with its arsenals and vaunted intelligence agencies convulsed from the handiwork of 19 insurgents, became enfeebled. In effect, the nation came under the rule of a tele-government.<br><br>Undoubtedly, government and military planners—and their think tanks–have discussed attack scenarios that include the institution of a federal government tele-governing operation. Members of the U.S. Congress, Supreme Court justices, and the president and his cabinet could easily debate, vote, set policy, render legal decisions via encrypted communications lines, from the comfort of their protective bunkers, home shelters, and command posts on land, sea, and air. In the eventuality of nationwide martial law, these individuals, based on their cowardly performance on 911, would no doubt prefer the safe confines of Hitleresque bunkers. Such was the case on September 11, when, from the safety of a studio in a bunker and a phone line from a basement, the nation's "leadership" sought to govern in an ersatz manner.<br><br>The American public fell for this act from a "government" whose inserted president and appointees are the wealthiest Americans ever to oversee a US populace. And as the wealthiest and most corrupt person ever to occupy the White House uttered his inanities, "average people" were taking care of their post-attack communities in Arlington and New York City. As they suffered, the so-called civilian and military "leaders" ducked and covered in a classic CYA move.<br><br>These are America's leaders who—through sheer arrogance and stunning stupidity—ignored reports from tireless FBI field agents that involved suspicious flight school activities and similar reports from gutsy Drug Enforcement Administration agents about the activities of Israeli "art student" spies who happened to be living in the same Florida and Texas neighborhoods as the future hijackers. The same "leaders" would stand by and watch the state of California get raped by Enron—the Bush family's fund raising Ponzi scheme contrivance.<br><br>Where was the senator or representative, or cabinet official (save for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld) who said, "I'm staying with the people" and showed up in the bucket line? Where was the general or admiral who said, "I'm staying with my people" and worked with the body bags? Where was the corporate executive who, instead, was busy turning "patriotism" into profiteering to gain market share and recoup profits? Where will they be during the next attack?<br><br>As the U.S. military-industrial complex sells more and more advanced weaponry to Israel, Indonesia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Colombia, Pakistan, India, and Nepal, and as more and more ethnic and religious minority groups, poor villagers, nomads, urban laborers, and sustenance farmers are massacred by national armies in the pay of ruling oligarchs and multinational corporations, will America's leaders care? No, it's good for business.<br><br>After U.S. snubbing of the International Criminal Court (to protect war criminals like Henry Kissinger), conventions on child soldiers and land mines, long-held international nuclear test-ban treaties, international protocols involving HIV/AIDS and global warming, will America's leaders care? No.<br><br>When the Turkmens, Uzbeks, Afghans, Pakistanis, Azeris, Kurds, Turks, and Georgians tire of the special treatment that U.S. Special Forces receive for guarding gas and oil pipelines—and the young troops are killed—will America's leaders notice? No.<br><br>Hand it to the CYA crowd, they now know that they can successfully sell the American public a rotten barrel of apples (or oil) and they will buy it gladly. Armed with that knowledge, the next attack may trigger enactment of national martial law.<br><br>Martial Law: Coming to a Neighborhood Near You?<br><br>The U.S. government has used martial law on numerous occasions, most often to quell domestic disturbances in specific locations around the country. According to the United States Constitution Online, during the War of 1812, Major General Andrew Jackson imposed martial law in an area of New Orleans. When a judge demanded Jackson produce, through the writ of habeas corpus, a man arrested for sedition, Jackson ordered the arrest of the judge. In 1892 at Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, rebellious mine workers blew up a mill and shot at strike-breaking workers. Mine owners requested that the state's governor impose martial law and, to no surprise, he did. In 1914, federal troops were ordered by Woodrow Wilson to end the Coal Field Wars in Colorado. In 1934, dockworkers in San Francisco initiated a strike and the governor declared the dockyards subject to martial law empowering the National Guard to make arrests and try detainees. The Supreme Court opined twice on matters involving martial law in Ex Parte Milligan and Duncan v. Kahanamoku. In 1866, in Milligan the Supreme Court proclaimed that Abraham Lincoln's imposition of martial law had been unconstitutional:<br><br>"Martial law . . . destroys every guarantee of the Constitution and effectually renders the military independent of an superior to the civil power—the attempt to do which by the King of Great Britain was deemed by our fathers such an offense that they assigned it to the world as one of the causes which impelled them to declare their independence. Civil liberty and this kind of martial law cannot endure together; the antagonism is irreconcilable, and, in the conflict, one or the other must perish."<br><br>In 1946, the Supreme Court ruled that the military arrest of two civilians in Hawaii during World War II and their subsequent trial by military tribunals was unconstitutional.<br><br>In 2002, with the U.S. Supreme Court nothing more than a useful machination of the Bush regime, it seems likely that if Americans become subjected to a Bush declaration of martial law, any challenge to it would fail miserably. With that thought in mind, its useful to note that the Bush crowd has had plenty of experience with martial law and states-of-emergency.<br><br>In 1992, Bush the Elder issued Executive Order 12804 in response to the Los Angeles riots. Hence, the U.S. Army 7th Infantry Division and detachments of U.S. Marines were deployed to mop up Los Angeles. That order was only issued after the city's poor had destroyed their neighborhoods. As an aside, that event would expose the CIA's penchant for selling drugs to inner city youth to raise funds for U.S. government covert operations in Central and South America. Bush the Elder was the overseer of much of this activity when he lorded over the Iran-contra scandal while vice president under Ronald Reagan.<br><br>One of Bush's underlings at the time, Oliver North, came up with a secret plan, along with the fascist-oriented Federal Emergency Management Agency (the key-masters for the doors to the bunkers), to declare martial law in the event of a "national crisis," including "violent and widespread internal dissent or national opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad."<br><br>Florida's provincial ruler Jeb Bush signed Executive Order 01–262 on September 11, 2001 declaring a State of Emergency in Florida. That was prior to similar declarations in New York and Virginia where the action was. "Jebbie" (that's what Bill Clinton calls him) also has the power to suspend elections for 30 days in a county under a State of Emergency.<br><br>The Bush family has managed to involve the United States in two wars; two invasions in Latin America, one that resulted in the fiery deaths of thousands of poor Panamanian barrio residents and another that resulted in the Bay of Pigs fiasco; aiding and abetting through murky financial investments America's Teutonic enemy in the last world war; corrupting the U.S. presidential election process; and making the wealthiest Americans and U.S. corporations richer while at the same cutting federal health, education, and welfare budgets and offloading those tasks to the overburdened states.<br><br>As the economy sputters with real unemployment close to 8 percent and as income disparity reaches astronomical proportions, it seems that the Bush regime will begin another war. Will that war be against Iraq, as Bush's neo-conservative hawks want? Or will the Seven Days in May crowd spin the Axis of Evil roulette wheel? Will the arrow point to Cuba? North Korea? Venezuela? The Bush family's record of death and destruction prompted one elderly couple in Baltimore, Maryland, (the husband being a highly decorated WW II U.S. Army veteran) to say, " The Bush family should be barred from ever holding political office. Look what they've done to this nation!"<br><br>And They Are Not Done Yet<br><br>An invasion of Iraq or any of the "Axis of Evil" or "Beyond Axis of Evil" nations is likely to result in a response that means American citizens will die here in the U.S. One incident, one aircraft hijacked, a "dirty nuke" set off in a small town, may well prompt the Bush regime, let's say during the election campaign of 2003–2004, to suspend national elections for a year while his government ensures stability. The precedent for such thinking is now enshrined in GOP politics. Another egotistical politician, Rudolph Giuliani, suggested that he should stay on as Mayor of New York a while longer past his term to make sure "New Yorkers would get through this thing." Would it be any surprise to hear Bush II say the same thing late in 2003 after insurgents would have destroyed part of a city or a chemical weapons cloud spreads over half of a small state?<br><br>Many closed-door meetings have been held on these subjects and the notices for these meetings have been closely monitored by the definitive Cryptome. In the event of martial law, the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which has already been largely gutted by the USA Patriot Act and other Bush II actions, would cease to exist. Posse Comitatus has, for over 100 years, served as an important criminal law safeguard proscribing the use of the Army (later, the Air Force and Navy) to "execute the laws," except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or by Congress. With the abrogation of Posse Comitatus and the imposition of martial law, the military would, as it did during post-Civil War Reconstruction in the South, be able to arrest and detain civilians for any flimsy reason. Civilian detainees consigned to federal prisons would be under the control of the Bureau of Prisons while those detained by the military would be subject to the regulations imposed by military commanders. The writ of habeas corpus would be suspended and the family members and legal representatives of detainees would not have a right to see them. This situation has already occurred with those detained in the wake of September 11 without a formal imposition of martial law.<br><br>Military tribunals could, as they did in Hawaii during the war, try and convict U.S. civilians. If prisons could not hold all the detainees, the government already has plans to create or reactivate large prison camps in the South and West. Some of these were already used to detain Cuban, Vietnamese, and Haitian "boat people."<br><br>In the event of martial law, draconian censorship laws would be implemented. Even now, the Patriot Act grants authority to obtain an order from the FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) Court requiring any person or business to produce "any books, records, documents, or items." That law would undoubtedly be extended to encompass the Internet as well. It should be of little wonder why the Pentagon has brought Iran-contra felon Admiral John Poindexter back from retirement to head the Office of Information Awareness. Coupled with the Office of Information Exploitation, Poindexter's office is seeking ways to identify, block, and determine the sources of seditious material posted on the Internet. Blocked web sites, confiscated computers and servers, and the arrest of non-conforming web site managers would become the rule of the day.<br><br>Not that it would need much in the way of pressure, but the broadcast media would similarly be required to air only that which has been approved by government censors. For example, U.S. Air Force scientists are soon to meet with CNN to figure out how to gather and disseminate information. During the war against Yugoslavia, CNN and National Public Radio hosted as interns U.S. Army psychological warfare operatives who worked on news stories concerning the war.<br><br>Similar closed-door meetings for "Continuity of Government" have taken place since September 11, 2001. Odd, it seems, that no "regular U.S. citizen" and few first responders have had any input into this process. Chalk that up to the fact that the entire process is classified and a matter of "national security"—the rubric that is used to justify the constant whittling away of the Constitution and its Bill of Rights. If the general public knew that "Continuity" actually means that the abilities of the Internal Revenue Service to continue to collect taxes, the Customs Service to continue to collect duties, and the Environmental Protection Agency to continue to collect fines actually outweigh the health and safety of American citizens, they would be outraged. Hence the secrecy surrounding the continuity plans.<br><br>James Madison had in right in 1794 when he wisely warned about "the old trick of turning every contingency into a resource for accumulating force in the government." The United States was founded by political sages like Madison, Jefferson, and Franklin. It will ultimately see its demise as a democracy through the likes of Bush II, his father, and the Trent Lotts and Dick Armeys that pervade the American body politic.<br><br><br>John Stanton is a Virginia-based writer on national security affairs and Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist who writes and comments frequently on civil liberties and human rights issues. <br><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby dbeach » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:59 am

bush trades away the nolonger useful ones and brings in the insiders<br><br>SO<br> Byrnes gets burned<br>Fast gets the fast track<br>Schoomaker is a shoe -in<br><br>Govt and military need fall guys to protect their crimes<br><br>sexual issues about Byrnes are ?<br><br>a way of easing him out<br><br>Don't think the coup will be in the MM <br>IF its a coup {and it could be a coup but this one got botched}<br><br>my 2 spins worth <p></p><i></i>
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