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Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby havanagilla » Wed May 03, 2006 7:32 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://in-defense-of-the-innocent.blogspot.com/">in-defense-of-the-innocent.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>any information on the blogger ?<br><br>IN DEFENSE OF THE INNOCENT <br>RAISING AWARENESS ON ALL FORMS OF EXPLOITATION AGAINST WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE 21ST CENTURY.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby professorpan » Thu May 04, 2006 1:50 am

I only scanned the blog, but I'm always wary of theorists/researchers who lay blame for every horrific crime at the feet of Israel/Mossad. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby havanagilla » Thu May 04, 2006 2:29 am

PP, certainly with you on it. WHat is interesting in this short lived blog (only 4 months) is the peculiar information in it. Not the usual stuff, and I wonder what are the sources. Namely, the focus is <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Dutroux</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> affair, in fact. the writer is American I beleive, but states his location as france.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby steve vegas » Thu May 04, 2006 5:28 am

After reading several of the entries, I'm going to go out on a limb and say I don't think it conforms to the typical anti-semetic, protocols-touting profile. It's certainly anti-mossad, and it definitely points to a link between Israeli-Russian ties to human trafficking, but doesn't seem to venture into the usual "Jewish conspiracy" territory. I have to say though, my ears always perk up when I hear the mossad, certainly not <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>every</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> horrific crime can be laid at their feet, but they ain't doin' too many favors, or doing too much good in the world either. To be clear, I have no anti-Israel feelings, though I'm not too crazy about Likud, or any right-wing, fascistic political movement for that matter, and I am generally sympathetic to the Palestinian cause. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby Dreams End » Thu May 04, 2006 10:14 am

I only read the first entry so far. It goes on about how it's NOT just Israel involved in the sex slave trade but then ONLY focuses on Israel. It then becomes impossible to critique. If one replies that Israel is not even nearly the worst (the U.S. government itself in 2003 estimates 8-900,000 cases of sexual trafficking in the world per year...and yet this blog focuses on the 10,000 in Israel over the last decade) he will reply ("But I said that.") If you then question why the focus on Israel the response is twofold. First, "Oh, so now we aren't allowed to criticize Israel?" and second, "The difference is the Zionists dominate the world so it's more important to focus on them. <br><br>So while I found refreshing the emphasis he puts on saying "it's not just the Jews" including a completely irrelevant discussion of how many Bolsheviks were jews (quoting Anthony Sutton on this point) he wants to have it both ways with the following unsubstantiated statement:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>However, it would also be foolish to deny the powerful influence of Zionist lobbyists which have all but ensured a wholly imbalanced control over the socio-cultural meillu of the last 100 years, and never more so than in the death throes of America's decline in the 21st century.<br><br>Similarly, many countries around the world have had a long history of slavery and exploitation, it would also be foolish to deny that there is a peculiarly Jewish interest in this trade which stretches back hundreds of years. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Hava, what exactly is your perspective? You continue to post or approve of such writings and then get miffed when I "defend Israel." So is this correct in your view? Would you say the Zionists have had "control over the socio-cultural meillu (sic)" over the last 100 years? (What does that even mean?) And please, do tell us about the "peculiarly Jewish interest in this trade which stretches back hundreds of years." Jewish. Not even Zionist in that last statement. So are Jews particularly prone to being involved in sexual slavery? For hundreds of years? Is it Jezabel's fault?<br><br>Why, Hava, do you only seem to credit analysis that puts Israel at the center? Why do you embrace these theories that not only "expose" Israel (which I know is your interest) but completely ignore the role of the real major powers of the world? Please do not come back with "But are we not allowed to talk about the crimes of Israel." He's not talking about just the crimes of Israel but Israel's domination of the world's "socio-cultural meillu" whatever the hell that is. <br><br>If you believe this, well, you've got issues. But if you don't, whey keep supporting such garbage? <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby havanagilla » Thu May 04, 2006 11:59 am

DE, i really don't know what to answer. I was asking if anyone knows this blogger and his sources or interests. (he is linking to RI also). I was curious to find out, cause we were discussing some of those issues here, as well.<br>--<br>I really don't know whether or not Israel has more or less sex slavery (I think it is rated high on the list by the state dept., but then these reports are blind to the US violations, are they not?).<br><br>Perhaps, if you read some of the critique in Israel, about Isael or the Jewish leadership you'd get the impression all of us here are antisemites. don't know. its a different pool, and different fish are swimming, here/there, and of course, nobody in Israel is wary of being malligned as antisemite. <br><br>Naturally, my focus is on the blind spots of my gov/culture, but not only, and my focus shifts when I move to the larger picture. (can you get that ? i suppose so, cause you are doing the same when it comes to criticizing the US). Things are not black and white.<br><br>As for sex slavery/sexual exploitation...its a big social phenomenon here, and YES I think Israel is a dangerous place for women/children in terms of sexual dignity and safety. (compared generally to the west). As for "jewish" practices...how could I know ? There were some articles and books published HERE recently indicating that sex slavery among the Jewish Ashkenazis was rampant way way back, and I did see some of it circulated in Questionable websites (Vangard type). SHould that stop the discussion ? you know my answer. Better have bad people talk than have the social problem alive and hurting people. <br><br>I hate to say that, but all womens' groups here had to resort to not so kosher orgs and :enemies" in order to get the gov to do SOMETHING about the numerous sex slaves from eastern europe who were locked here in brothels and houses, like animals. can't prompt them any other way, so it seems.<br>And people like former MK SHula Aloni ( a human rights activist) went and gave an interview to a hostile arab newspaper, calling our minister of defense a murderer of children. In your standards, this is "supporting" liable, but really I don't think this is an issue anymore. <br><br>Actually, I think that your arguments against my sincere attempts to study isseus "in th dark" (re israel and even re nazis and antisemites) are also antisemitic in that you apply a different standard to me, just because I am Jewish/Israel. I have a right to be as inquisitive and as suspicious re my gov as you so, re yours, without being constantly attacked for it and having to prove I am not from the stormfront. Even I make some mistakes along the way, finding out who is who, that's no different than your, specifically yours, trial and error inquiries into YOUR gov, people, and "ancient practices". Why, I haven't heard anyone here blame you from recycling dangerous "antiamerican" garbage that feeds the enemies of the free world, though I am sure some of those people are feasting on it. Lets just settle this. I am trying, no less than ayone else here, to see the power mechanisms and the corruption that is infesting my gov, which is now involved with other govts mainly the US but not only. regretfully, as is the case with the USA for instance, or UK or RUssia, some of those in power are not very nice, they also allign with not so very nice ad "jew loving" forces; and some of their control mechanisms are in practice for a long time (religious guilt controls, fear based control by xenophobia and false pretense to be doing their money "for the good of all". ). Sex slavery has roots in religion of course, both Jewish and Moslem, as women are "commodities" under the laws. I am not sure about CHrisianity, have no knowledgem but i think it was monogamous from the start ? don't know really. But yes, my culture, since men were allowed and encouraged to marry as many women, and "concubines" (another status under the Jewish law) as they wished, were "trading" in females, as of a young age, since women were "betrothed" or trafficked from a young age, under financial agreements between families and tribes. I am SURE, that sociologically speaking, one CAN trace sex slavery in Jewish culture, as it was sanctioned, with some reservations and protections. Basicaly, slavery is allowed in jewish law.<br>--<br>You can do your own revisionism re your culture (US was established on SLAVERY and RAPE, that's very very true and perhaps it still is rampant its for you to examine). I have to do mine. And again, stifling critique with this kind of insinuation is not a positive influence on my country, or its politics. I might have made some mistakes in judgement and I usually reported my "revelations" (as in "Oh my god they ARE nazis)...but every free, lively, constructive discussion must be free to make mistakes, or else one learns nothing. Since this board is for learning purposes, I find it a good place to make my beginners' mistakes and grow out of them, becoming more clear, discriminating, and dissillusioned.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby StarmanSkye » Thu May 04, 2006 1:26 pm

Damn Havanagilla --<br><br>WELL SAID!<br><br>I really value your rigorous, honest, courageous perspective on this forum. You've provided me with valuable, enlightening insights re: Israeli society attitudes and interests and POV;<br><br>And I confess -- I often don't get what DE goes on about. Sometimes the objections/critique comes-across as intimidation. At other times, it's like an intricate exposition of rules, like an unwritten code. But I think a LOT of the difficulty and confusion is part of the territory -- After all, Israel IS a Jewish state -- the religious IS political -- AND economic, cultural, social, psycosocial, historical, military, industrial, archeological, technical, literary, academic, architectural, legal, culinary, etc. -- as many ME states are Islamic. To argue otherwise is like denying the neocon ideology is distinctively Republican or denying the intimate GOP link to the energy-defense military and war-economy. (Of course that doesn't preclude Democrat-links, or that in many ways the US is governed by a single-party).<br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby havanagilla » Thu May 04, 2006 6:33 pm

thanks starms<br>I think there is a confusion around the issue of Judaism, because essentially, and as a culture is it in the root of the western civilization, as we know it now (Christian culture, or Judeo Christian" by some) which amplifies its significance for better and worse. Denying it is useless, IMHO. <br>DE can actually immigrate to Israel, as he now qualifies for automatic citizenship under the law of return (being married to a jewish lady), and so he can test his ideas by living here, for say...a month. If I recall correctly, DE described himself as "bi sexual" and so he should get a good perspective on the level of human rights here, on the basis of gender and sexual preferences and for women in general. And also, gain a first hand experience <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>with the complex relations between the history of THIS region and the world situation, values and culture (after all, it ALL started here). </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> The western and moslem civilizations will always have an Oedipus Complex with regards to the Jewish religion (and the jews, to some degree, as those who represent "the source" of our culture) because they both incorporate the old testament and offer an addition/critique. And so Jewish values and practices are scrutinized differently. Yet again, discussing culture, origins, values, should not be stifled with slogans. Not every discussion on the hegemony of Jewish values in our culture, is "antisemitic" or "nazi". While the Nazis also had a "jewish complex" I judge them by their tendency to translate cultural debates (legit ones) into murder and annihilation, and they did that to the ROma people as well, and homosexuals and a huge number of Polish people just for being Polish.<br> But even there, in absolute terms, genocide (within a holy war/Jihad) is ALSO a Jewish religious/social institution, and some Israeli experts (Dr. Yehiam Sorek, for example) on ancient Mid east history claim that it was a novel invention attributable to the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Jewish nation</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> at the time. (the order to annihilate Amalek and other nations in Kanaan, in order to clear the holy land from heathens). So, it is not the JEWS of NOW who are responsible, but these issues are legit subjects of discussion, without being too careful not to step on eggs. After all, the situation since WW2 has changed dramatically and Israel has one of the largest armies in the world (more tanks than NAto, I am told).<br>--<br>Starmskye, I am not so rigorous when it comes to MY personal experiences and MC (where my psychological limitations are sprayed all over the place), but thanks anyway. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby Dreams End » Thu May 04, 2006 9:39 pm

Hava, I hold you to know different standard than I do anyone else...as I think I've made abundantly clear, and have angered many in the process. Sorry for those who felt "intimidated". I would suggest that if someone feels intimidated posting anonymously on a bulletin board there may be deeper issues and a break from posting might be in order.<br><br>Somehow, hava, you did exactly what I said always happens without a note of irony. Somehow, again, you managed to take issue with my saying you can't expose the crimes of Israel, which, of course, is exactly not what I was saying. <br><br>The first post on the blog says this:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>it would also be foolish to deny the powerful influence of Zionist lobbyists which have all but ensured a wholly imbalanced control over the socio-cultural meillu of the last 100 years,<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>and I disagreed with that.<br><br><br>Also, I questioned his supposition, unsupported by evidence, of course, that Jews have had an inordinate interest in sexual slavery operations for "hundreds of years." <br><br>Those were the two points I took issue with. Then I asked if you agreed with those and you started going on about how I wasn't letting you talk about the crimes of Israel.<br><br>Tell me, of all those Israelis I'd find anti-Semitic...how many believe that Israel controls the world? <br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby Dreams End » Fri May 05, 2006 2:13 am

If anyone actually cares, "well known author" Stillingfleet will be publishing a book by the same name as his blog.<br><br>With Red Pill Press<br><br>Which solely prints material from Laura Knight-Jadczyk and her network. <br><br>I'm listening to a podcast of him by "Sign of the Times". <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/sott/podcast/sott_podcast_41_20060311.mp3">www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/...060311.mp3</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>Child abuse and child porn are not as bad a problem as we think, he says. Well, that's a relief. There's abuse but it's not as bad as we are told but it's a tool of control. <br><br>And here comes the Israeli part...oh, Israel has gained virtual control over the US by using sex spies....Monica Lewinsky and Chandra levy are examples. Well that explains a lot. <br><br>Now they're back on how many innocent people are accused of abuse. <br><br>Oh, now we find that Mossad is behind the Dutroux case. <br><br>Now the hosts are quoting the "Jewish Tribal Review" website and how much information they have about Jewish pornographers etc. Stillingfleet says "it's not a Jewish thing" and now is reading from the Nation about how corporations rape and exploit Africa. <br><br>It's actually a little weird. He really is providing no new information and seems vague on details, but he actually tries to downplay the Jewish stuff as put forward by the hosts (part of the jadczyk cult's Sign of the Times podcast). I wonder now if he got mixed up with them and got pressured to put the more Jewish conspiracy stuff in there. His Dutroux articles, for example, started off fine but by the end made unsubstantiated claims that Mossad was behind much of it, especially the murder of Gerard Bull. But the hosts of the program really seem to be the ones pushing this angle during the interview. <br><br>Stillingfleet does have one comment about the interesting aspects of the whole "Zionist cesspool" but gets interrupted. <br><br>Anyway, not that it matters. None of this will be read as clearly I'm just defending Israel. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby havanagilla » Fri May 05, 2006 2:37 am

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>then let's talk then about all the other info</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> in this blog/link (like his comments on <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Gerrald Bull's murder</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> ?) , and not this point you disagree on. I explained what I think about the myth "that the jews rule the world" (western world), and where it originates. <br>You had the same comment to Uri Avneri, who wrote that Herod tells Ceasar who to appoint to congress. Is he also a self hating covert jewish antisemite "with issues" ? Or are we all here, in Israel deeply misled by a secret antisemitic "spin" ?<br>Let's face it DE, your stance is ONLY yours, haven't seen it anywhere else. <br>--------------------------<br>We both agree, I believe that the Jews/Israel will eventually serve as buffers to the PTBs when the oppressed become angered and rebellious. This has been going on for a very long time. But you are being a bit vain, in thinking that ONLY YOU see it, while in fact everyone does, and so those Jews and those Israeli leaders who are repeating the mistake that might turn out very costly as has always been the case, are criminals. While the "pattern" has been coerced through the ages, it is voluntary now, when there is a solid, OK state (not great, but sustainable). namely, it is not PTSD repetition of trauma (because these are different people) it is criminal, corrupt and careless leadership. Or as Finkelstein puts it "Judenrat", without the excuses that the original ones had (after all, maybe they couldn't foresee the extent of the disaster... maybe). Yes, many people here think that the power politics of the "rich Jews with right wing Israelis" alliance is very close to making a crucial and irreversible mistake, in trying to control the whole world. Yes. (trying). and in actually bullying the weak ones and NOT standing up to the real threats. This "lobby" or whatever are monitoring (as in thought police) all kinds of miserable rap singers for every bit of utterance against Israel/Jews, or every miserable israeli refusenik who lectures in a hell hole campus, but as we know they go to bed with REAL nazis, who have theeth, namely, leaders who commit genocide in their countries, Appartheid leaders with membership in NAzi groups etc and, last but not least, Bushco. This is pathetic that I have to repeat it. <br>---<br>So, putting this aside now, what do you think about the other claims in the link ? what do you think about Mossad involvement with sex slavery and sexpionage ? <br>-- <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby Dreams End » Fri May 05, 2006 4:12 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Is he also a self hating covert jewish antisemite "with issues<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->"<br><br>maybe he has a brain implant projecting holographic images of the Book of Revelations. Who knows? There are all kinds of issues beyond "self hate".<br><br>AS for the rest...so little is sourced that I will have to spend a great deal of time researching it. Statements like: "He is said to be a MOSSAD operator " don't really count as evidence. Why don't you pick a few facts you think have some merit and I'll look into them. I picked one of interest: he says Shaul Eisenberg owns Wackenhut. Interesting. Also completely and utterly false. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The corporations and companies owned by Esienberg and now under his son Erwin's control include: Iron Mt Recordkeeping, Iron Mtn mining, Rotron, Wackenhut, Israel Chemicals, Eisenberg Industries of Israel, Permindex, Legacy foundation of Nevada, Eisenberg Satellite and Telecom. and part owner of ATT and Lucent , Nortel , GM/Hughes and others. Most of these companies' reputation precedes them.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Wackenhut, of course, was owned until recently by the Wackenhut family. It does have a deserved reputation as shady indeed, but is now owned by Group4securicom. <br><br>Picking a few others just to spot check. The only reference to the "Legacy foundation of Nevada is this article. Nothing else. Only reference to Iron Mt. Recordkeeping is this article. There is a Rotron but it's been sold repeatedly, now property of Comair, bought from EG&G. I didn't find a "Eisenberg Satellite and Telecom" but I did find Orbcomm which has a guy with the last name of Eisenberg as president. Maybe it's an unusual name and they are all related.<br><br>The only other place I find this list...well it's so bizarre you'll have to go there yourself. <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.freedomdomain.com/shaul.html">www.freedomdomain.com/shaul.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I don't even know how to explain it. Turns out that Mossad killed Kennedy to keep him from attacking China.<br><br>This is just one little thing. This is why I prefer articles in which people REFERENCE their information.<br><br>Oh, my bad. He DOES have some references. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>An article from Ernesto Cienfuegos had this to say about the case: (from the "Sexpionage 2" post)<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Regular readers will already have guessed where that fine journalist writes...La Voz de Aztlan. Here, Hava, you'll enjoy this site<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.aztlan.net/">www.aztlan.net/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>All kinds of unsubstantiated information about Jewish control of everything.<br><br>Back to his blog. Lewinsky accusation, one you have also suggested...unsourced in any way. Oh, well, she IS jewish, so I guess THAT proves she's MOSSAD.<br><br>I know I'm tired, but please tell me he had SOME sort of documentation for this:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Governor James McGreevey "gay sex scandal," Congressman Gary Condit and the murdered Chandra Levy including President Bill Clinton's Affairs were all MOSSAD sexpionage operations the likes of which continue to this day on an international scale.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>because I didn't see it.<br><br>Oh...I"m embarrassed. There's this:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Foreign intelligence expert Andy Martin from Out2.com newspaper syndicate offers the following commentary on McGreevey and Cipel:<br><br><br>"McGreevey said he had sex. He did. Golan Cipel says he is not gay. He's not. They are both right. Mr. Cipel was a junior Mossad case officer, originally posted to New York under official cover. The Mossad is well known for using human sex toys. McGreevey was lured into a relationship that was intended to penetrate New Jersey's homeland defenses.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That's out2.com. As in:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Be the Media - Get your Out2 Press Pass and Earn Money as a paid Citizen Reporter TODAY - submit info.-<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.out2.com/forms/cr_signup.asp">www.out2.com/forms/cr_signup.asp</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Okay, that's not fair. Here's andy's info:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>America's Daily Briefing is an investigative opinion column syndicated nationally by Out2.com, where Andy Martin serves as independent chief national and foreign correspondent. Martin has been Baghdad Bureau Chief for Out2.com since April 2003. His specialty is investigative analysis in the Middle East where he harvests information from numerous official and unofficial sources and breaks stories with intelligence overtones on a regular basis.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=34760">releases.usnewswire.com/G...p?id=34760</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Well, here's an update on ole Andy:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>ANDY MARTIN is America’s most respected independent foreign policy and intelligence analyst. He is the Executive Editor of the forthcoming ANDY MARTIN'S WORLDWIDE NEWS AND CONTRARIAN COMMENTARY, starting January 1, 2006. He previously served as Baghdad Bureau Chief for an Internet newspaper. Andy is a Republican candidate for governor of Illinois. Media contact: (866) 706-2639. E-mail:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=481">www.politicalgateway.com/...ml?col=481</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Naturally, we could have just gone to his page to view his bio:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://andymartin.com/bio.htm">andymartin.com/bio.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Hey, what do you know. Zero intelligence or foreign policy experience or even "analyst" experience on his own bio. <br><br>Okay, it's late. I guess the point I'm making is that you can't just read this stuff and take it at face value. I just grabbed a couple of random things that caught my eye and they did not check out at all. Find me some info in there you think is actually solid and I'll keep looking but that's all for now. But REALLY HORRIBLE SOURCES so far. And given his connection to the Sign of the Times, Cassiopeia, Knight-Jadczyc crowd, it's about what I'd expect. Their primary source, you see, are aliens who are channeled by Ouija board. And I am NOT kidding.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby havanagilla » Fri May 05, 2006 6:41 am

that's much better. In fact this was my original question, since I am totally IGNORANT with respect to all those american websites and people in the internet/blogosphere world. (I have much better grasp of what's reliable in Israel, naturally, and a bit with respect to Jewish journalism/sources.) Thanks !<br>--<br>Just for the future of better communication, is there any other way I can pose the question w/link, without being showered with suspicion as to my motivation ? would it be proper to place the link and then erase it on edit, just for the sake of "how it looks" on the board ? whatever.<br>--<br>What I found interesting is his focus in Saul Eisenberg, havent seen his name in the usual bashing, and Dutroux/Bull connections etc. <br>--<br>So this is some sort of disinformation (re Wankenhut, for instance ?), or what. Just curious who would be behind it, is it Republicans ? (like Andy Martin ?).<br>--<br>I will not address your cynical speculation re Avneri. I think he is totally sane, he has other problems, not sanity or book of revelations (that's me ? remember..), and he is certainly not alone in his opinions, he is heading a significant peace movement here who share his views basically. (Gush Shalom).<br>--<br>My sense about this blog is that the writer is being fed by someone else, who does know some stuff, and might want to plant some rumours, for another agenda altogether. So, it is still interesting. There is a delicate "balance of terror" among the scammers from all countries, and sometimes, the way to send a warning is through controlled disinformation that may mean nothing to you and me, but when it hits the right person, it is understood. <br>--<br>I am sure that I, and many other people, are conduits to such intentional distortions. But then again, if you don't ask, you never know what is true and what is not.<br>--<br>Last, but not least. getting info from channeled aliens...though I personally happen to share your cynicism about it, I don't dismiss it, simply because most of our culture is founded on "channeling" (revelations), starting with Moses "receiving" the commandments from someone; down to the last Jewish scholars and lawyers such as <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://" target="top">Rabbi Joseph Karo,</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> the person who compiled the authoritative codex by which ALL Jews have lived since the 18th century (Shulhan Aruch), which covers all the precepts from personal ritual to legal decisions and constitutional structures of society. Karo, while a brilliant and educated scholar with all the degrees and certifications, insisted that he is communicating things told to him by an "angel" (channeled entity), whom he refered to as "the speaker" and if you or I said same (with his specific descriptions) most likely we would be declared crazy for all practical matters. Same goes for mathematicians, composers and other pillars of our culture who claimed they received the entire knowledge (sometimes a whole partitura, or complex mathematical concepts) by "channelling it" from something that sounds like an alien, a ghost or what not. This is "rigorous intuition", namely, people who were very very educated and skilled, but also, channeled stuff without feeling this is "crazy". <br>--<br>But certainly this is NOT a valid source for military or intel gossip. Usually, the angles don't discuss those issues with bloggers.<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=havanagilla>havanagilla</A> at: 5/5/06 5:01 am<br></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby havanagilla » Fri May 05, 2006 7:10 am

can't help adding, DE, that your country is run by a man who hears voices. And if I am not wrong, another president, Reagan was consulting an astrologer for the crucial decisions of his administration. Why shouldn't bloggers ? ( we know for a fact that Hitler was "channeling" , he called it prophecizing...but it was the same). These are people who were and are entrusted with the WORLD's welfare...not just miserable unsubstantiated bloggers..<br>--<br>You'd be surprised, or not, that many Mossad ops etc., are also in the business of spiritualism, and it is terrifying to think this is how serious matters are handled. But we should apply similar standards to all parties. <br>--<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Link to a blog about pedo/military

Postby Dreams End » Fri May 05, 2006 10:00 am

Well, I've written about channelers etc before. Starting with Madame Blavatsky herself, the "entities" in question usually treat "metaphysical subjects" and seem always to have some fine "racial theories" to throw into the mix. And always they are giving us the "truth" about Jews. Starting in the 50's, if not before, aliens took over the job. Again, it was quite common for these revelations to involve racial theories. Immediately, George Adamski comes to mind. Tied to the Nazi "silver shirts", he also happened to receive visits from Venusians, while photographing chicken incubators which were supposed to be UFO's. I will give you a free pass on LKJ as even ONE of her essays is so long and convoluted that you will probably not last until the "point" is made. But I managed, and believe me, the "point" is the same as it always is. Since the podcast I listened to had the hosts citing "Jewish Tribal Review" I think that's an easier way to get a handle on those folks. <br><br>The most interesting example of such channeling here in the US is "The Nine" written about a lot by Jeff and also by me. And that involved Uri Geller. Personally, the whole thing looks like an intel operation to me with one person, Puharich, always having to be the one to hypnotize those who would channel the nine. While I don't think I recall much in the way of racial theory by the Nine, those who lifted their banner are very suspect in their own ways. <br><br>Thing is, Hava, that one look at this website told me that I'd find exactly what I posted above. Not because he criticizes Israel, but because the blog purports to be<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>RAISING AWARENESS ON ALL FORMS OF EXPLOITATION AGAINST WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE 21ST CENTURY.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>and then proceeds to only talk about the Israeli angle. You certainly are not serious about this issue if you don't look into parts of Asia and also in the US folks smuggled in through Mexico. And it's this emphasis on Israel above all others, despite the claim of universality of the websites subtitle, that made it clear immediately that he's not focusing on the larger picture but trying to link Israel in. I don't know why you can't see that. It's one thing if this were a blog originating in Israel, then it would make sense. But why is an English guy living in France (allegedly) so focused on Israel. By the way the LINKS on his site to other exploitation websites are not only good, but also will show how strange his focus is. Notice all the good quotes on the right and how NONE of those figure in his actual writings.<br><br>His minimilization of the global extent of the problem was just icing on the cake, as far as that goes. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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