New development in Scott Peterson case: Somalia and Sudan

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New development in Scott Peterson case: Somalia and Sudan

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:42 am

What? You thought I meant Scott and Laci Peterson? <br>Hunh. Nope. Just a...coincidence?<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0415930634.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Could this reporter named Scott Peterson who exposed the Pentagon's blunders be why the media went so overboard obsessing on that <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>other</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Scott Peterson's trial complete with a movie before the trial even happened? Keyword hijacking of the journalist's name who exposed the US bungling and slaughter in Somalia and Sudan? Perhaps when the opportunity for a diversion came up they used it for all they could.<br><br>http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/GM012902.html<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In 1992 the United States walked into Somalia with good intentions. George Bush senior announced that America had come to do "God's work" in a nation devastated by clan warfare and famine. But, as Scott Peterson's first-hand account Me Against My Brother shows, the mission was doomed by intelligence failures, partisan deployments and, ultimately, the belief that you can bomb a nation into peace and prosperity.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Remember 'Justice for Woody?'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> The humanitarian social worker killed by cops in a Vermont church while raving the CIA was going to torture him? <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>His name was...Bob Woodward.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Yes, just like the lead spook from naval intelligence of the same name who's babysitting the White House from the Washington Post as he has since his role in Watergate-a character assassination coup against Nixon.<br><br>Could it be that the dark truths illuminated by the internet get 'events' created to generate more haystack around the needle and thus keep search engines from leading us to the bad news? What's a frame up or a hit here or there? Or just a big opportunistic diversion. Those techniques of hiding crime has been used for eons. I wouldn't put it past some ops to do some 'preventitive diversion.'<br><br>It would only make sense that the internet has some spooks anxious about what we kids are learning here and odd things would be thrown against the wall to see what stuck.<br>Remember that when you think "nawww..."<br><br>http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/11/cnna.dean.cain/index.html<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>(CNN) -- Pretrial preparations are underway in the Scott Peterson case -- but a movie about the case is already done and set to air. "The Perfect Husband," running on USA Network Friday at 8 p.m. ET, tells the story of Scott and Laci Peterson and the murder that has led to the trial.<br><br>CNN anchor Daryn Kagan spoke with Dean Cain, who plays Scott Peterson, Tuesday on "CNN Live Today." <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>http://www.nonfictionweb.com/Me_Against_My_Brother_At_War_in_Somalia_Sudan_and_Rwanda_0415930634.html <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Me Against My Brother: At War in Somalia, Sudan and Rwanda<br>by Authors: Scott Peterson<br>Released: 01 September, 2001<br>ISBN: 0415930634<br>Paperback <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/books/2000/0005.hammer.html<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The abrupt end of the Cold War, mounting pressures for democratization, and the rise of Islamic fundamentalism all unleashed destabilizing forces that resulted in an era of unprecedented carnage. Yet unlike the recent wars in Kosovo and the Persian Gulf, access to the battlegrounds was largely unhampered. For anyone with the stamina and the courage to get around, that posting was a reporter's dream---and nightmare.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Scott Peterson is just such a journalist</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. As the Nairobi-based correspondent for Britain's Daily Telegraph and a photographer for the Gamma Liaison agency, he covered the fall of the dictator Mohamed Siad Barre and Somalia's subsequent disintegration into anarchy and famine. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>He witnessed the intervention to feed the starving and the disastrous pursuit of the warlord Mohamed Farah Aidid.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>.....<br>Now Peterson has produced an extraordinary book about his years on the front lines. Me Against My Brother: At War in Somalia, Sudan and Rwanda is Peterson's very personal account of that catastrophic era on the African continent. Vividly written and deeply researched, filled with compassion and moral indignation...<br>.....<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Peterson's account of the Somali debacle is probably the most detailed study of the country's disintegration at the hands of its feuding warlords and of the well-meaning but hapless United Nations peacekeeping operation that followed.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>....<br>Peterson traces the series of missteps that turned a U.S.-led humanitarian mission into a bloody urban war against him.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>It is hard to argue with Peterson's central thesis that the arrogance and bungling of top U.S. military and political officials</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->---notably Jonathan Howe, the supremely naive ex-Admiral who became obsessed with arresting Aidid, even spreading Wild West-style "Wanted" posters throughout Mogadishu---led America headlong into a quagmire. His reporting breaks some new ground, including a fascinating account of the spy vs. spy gamesmanship between the American military and Aidid's Habr Gidir clansmen during the warlord's months as a fugitive.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 6/17/06 1:14 am<br></i>
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Re: New development in Scott Peterson case: Somalia and Suda

Postby professorpan » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:41 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Could this reporter named Scott Peterson who exposed the Pentagon's blunders be why the media went so overboard obsessing on that other Scott Peterson's trial complete with a movie before the trial even happened? Keyword hijacking of the journalist's name who exposed the US bungling and slaughter in Somalia and Sudan? Perhaps when the opportunity for a diversion came up they used it for all they could.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I find it extremely unlikely. Hugh, if you simply backtrack logically, through the massive chain of events and hordes of conspirators required to make something like that happen, it becomes clear that it is virtually impossible.<br><br>Try it sometime before leaping off the tallest tree limb. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: New development in Scott Peterson case: Somalia and Suda

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:03 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>if you simply backtrack logically<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Precisely what I did. Apparently you don't see the 'follow the leader' intitutionalized echo chamber of media. Look into it to see how easy it is to lead the herd by controlling 'leaders.'<br><br>That is a propaganda principle that Bernays and others wrote about almost 100 years ago. Old news but worth catching up on, Prof P. It strikes me as odd that you seem to know so little about info war tactics while reading this website.<br><br>Look at the timing of the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>February 2005</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> media crucifixion of Ward Churchill for a<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> 9/12/01</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> essay saying some people in the CIA offices at the WTC were working like <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"little Eichmanns."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>This echo chamber clamor over words more than three years old drowned out the story that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the CIA had taken in five of Eichmann's assistants.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>The dangerous keyword was hijacked and inflamed as a preventitive diversion. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: New development in Scott Peterson case: Somalia and Suda

Postby NewKid » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:30 pm

I tend to agree with Pan here. This other Scott Peterson doesn't seem like he has anything that damning to say anyway. There's little chance that the defendant Scott Peterson would be framed for something like this and it's rather unlikely that the entire agenda of the networks and the cable channels would be engineered around obsessive coverage just to avoid this other Scott Peterson's story. <br><br>I agree there probably is keyword hijacking going on, but I'm not persuaded it's happening here. (I tend to think Ward Churchill is probably an agent provocateur who's put out to say outrageous shit to try and discredit the left and create fake debates with Sean Hannity and David Horowitz.) <p></p><i></i>
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Re: New development in Scott Peterson case: Somalia and Suda

Postby Dreams End » Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:59 pm

Plus, Scott Peterson is not exactly an unusual name. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: New development in Scott Peterson case: Somalia and Suda

Postby NewKid » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:38 am

Mike Dewine and Porter Goss just wanting to shed some light for us. Thanks guys!<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/06/washington_love.php" target="top">www.sploid.com/news/2006/06/washington_love.php</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: New development in Scott Peterson case: Somalia and Suda

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:36 am

The journalist Scott Peterson did blow the Pentagon's heroic recruiting narrative out of the water. Just as Vietnam Syndrome was being totally forgotten and Iraq was still in the bullseye.<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Plus, Scott Peterson is not exactly an unusual name.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That's certainly true, DE, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>but now there is only one 'Scott Peterson' for the masses.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br> I'd like to know what a search engine turned up before the Scott and Laci show took over TV Nation's attention span. A search now turns up nothing but the Scott and Laci show. <br><br>Keeping a name from becoming a problem would make infowar sense, like 'Nacho Libre' pre-emptively buying the psychic domain name of jailed Mexican activist Nacho Del Valle.<br><br>Can you imagine the cyber-tech available to spooks doing media management? Any keywords or names you might want to provide a parallel narrative for or diversion from can be found with a click and developed. Easy. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 6/18/06 6:40 pm<br></i>
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Re: New development in Scott Peterson case: Somalia and Suda

Postby professorpan » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:24 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Keeping a name from becoming a problem would make infowar sense, like 'Nacho Libre' pre-emptively buying the psychic domain name of jailed Mexican activist Nacho Del Valle.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Damn, you will simply not let your corn chip theory crawl into a dark corner and expire, will you? <p></p><i></i>
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Re:self delete.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:39 pm

Criminy, I'm losing track of where I put my responses to Prof Pan's Nelson-like "haw haw" ala the Simpsons.<br><br>Yes, PP, I stand by that analysis. <br><br>Free Huey...Newton.<br>Free Leonard...Peltier.<br>Nacho Libre...oops. Nacho Del Valle will just have to rot in a Mexican prison because we've got a movie to watch.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 6/18/06 8:42 pm<br></i>
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Re: Re:self delete.

Postby professorpan » Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:51 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Yes, PP, I stand by that analysis. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>And it's the most glaring example of where your omnipotent control theory falls off the cliff.<br><br>Yeah, that Jack Black film really kept legions of comedy film fans from inquiring into Mexican campesino politics! Mission accomplished.<br><br>Free Willy! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Comedy fans etc.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:24 am

That's the same generic scoff you've been voicing for a while.<br>I was hoping for some substance.<br><br>PP, you're being way more disproportionately literalist than you accuse me of being. That's why I see you knocking over straw men instead of discussing the multi-faceted elements of distraction, diversion, demoralizing, decoys, etc.<br><br>If you really think that the most-consumed-by-the-masses media products wouldn't be tools for indoctrination and damage control then we don't see the same history or military doctrines.<br><br>Responding to your gibes feels to me like being told to prove the Earth is round. After so much effort on my part, I say "if you can't see it by now..."<br><br>If you are actually interested in the topic, follow up on it. <br>I don't mean go prove a negative, but the history of government hijacking the behavioral sciences and deploying it in state-controlled media is out there waiting for you. Help yourself. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Comedy fans etc.

Postby professorpan » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:53 am

And you have regularly ignored my questions and arguments, even when I've supported them with multiple, verifiable examples. "Generic scoff" my ass. <br><br>You've yet to actually produce anything verifiable to support your "keyword hijacking" theory. Have you ever put it to the test? Done an actual analysis or search on some of your pet "hijackings?" <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If you are actually interested in the topic, follow up on it. <br>I don't mean go prove a negative, but the history of government hijacking the behavioral sciences and deploying it in state-controlled media is out there waiting for you. Help yourself.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I am interested in the topic of media manipulation, and have been since long before your admitted immersion into the subject. Just because I won't buy into your creative theorizing doesn't mean I don't understand the subject. <br><br>I've known people who were convinced every facet of the media was controlled by Commies. They could rip apart any TV show for the "hidden" Communist messages. Ditto equally sincere people who can find evidence of the "liberal/atheist/humanist" agenda designed to lead honest Christians into the dominion of Satan.<br><br>And some of their analysis is much more reasonable than your Nacho Libre bit.<br><br>Your thinking follows a pattern, Hugh -- you have come to a conclusion about how things work, so you seek out examples to support that conclusion. That's not objective research -- that's a blatant case of confirmation bias.<br><br>The key to good research is to actively avoid confirmation bias by <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>seeking information that contradicts our theories and beliefs. </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>If you offered up you theories as speculation, and listened honestly to critiques, I wouldn't feel compelled to respond. But you keep pimping your theories as fact, and you brush off well-meaning criticism from myself and others. <br><br>I always try to seek contradictory data when I feel myself thinking reflexively or when I feel like I've found "the answer." It has forced me to eat a lot of crow, but it has made me wiser. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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