US Defense Contractor source of Hezbollah Messages?

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US Defense Contractor source of Hezbollah Messages?

Postby greencrow0 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:55 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://cnw.com/~jasonst/hejailanprojects.html">cnw.com/~jasonst/hejailanprojects.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Hezbollah website hosted by a US defense subcontractor? (Hejailan Projects / United Defense Industries, Inc. / BAE Systems Land and Armaments) <br><br>After many months of me complaining about how often the mainstream media was citing unspecified "internet postings" as sources for their stories, I was reading an article in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer that finally sourced a claim. They credited an organization that tracks terrorist activities and internet postings. As suspected, it didn't take much digging to find propaganda. <br><br>The "SITE Instititute" <br><br>The Search for International Terrorist Entities Institute (The "SITE Instititute"), seems to be chronocling most of the terrorist activity you hear about in the news, and appears to be the source for much of the reporting on terrorist activities provided to the mainstream media. <br><br>One of the pages hosted on the SITE Institute website, provides a list of "Terrorist Websites". <br><br>One of six websites listed is for Hizballah (Party of God) <br><br>SITE lists their website as: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nasrollah.org/">www.nasrollah.org/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>You can check it out if you like, (though i wouldn't recommend it), but it looks pretty legitimate... <br><br>...until I started digging around into who's hosting it. <br><br>According to the domain registration record, nasrollah.org is registered to a "Hussein Beydoun", who resides at a Beirut (Lebanon) address. Looks pretty legitimate, but things get fishy when you look at the IP address of their web server. <br><br>www.nasrollah.org resolves to 82.205.138.35 <br><br>The RIPE registration record for that IP address says it belongs to a "Horizon Communication", out of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The registration record goes on to list "Karthikeyan K" at an address of "Hejailan Projects" <br><br>Thinking that was a rather strange address, I searched for information on who "Hejailan Projects" is... I found them listed on a directory of Defense / Aerospace contractors. <br><br>Al-Hejailan Projects Co., Ltd. <br>DESCRIPTION: Al-Hejailan Projects Engineering Co. is a Saudi engineering firm known to be involved in maintenance and upgrading of vehicles belonging to the Royal Saudi Land Forces Infantry Corps. <br><br>CHRONOLOGY <br>* 1993. FMC-Arabia Ltd. is established as a joint venture between United Defense Industries, Inc. (Arlington, VA) and the Al-Hejailan Group (Saudi Arabia). The company is 51% owned by United Defense. <br><br>* April 2003. Al-Hejailan Group acquires the 51% stake in United Defense Systems-Arabia owned by United Defense Industries, Inc. (NYSE: UDI) for approximately $0.4 million. <br><br><br>Wikipedia says, "United Defense Industries was a United States defense contractor which is now part of BAE Systems Land and Armaments. This company produces combat vehicles, artillery, naval guns, missile launchers and precision munitions. The company started as a division of the agricultural machine business, Food Machinery Corporation (FMC), when they won a US government contract to build LVTs and became a weapon manufacturer during World War II." <br><br><br>.... Why is a US defense contractor hosting a known terrorist website? <br><br><br><br><br><br>Here is the evidence showing United Defense's Al-Hejailan Projects Co. hosting the Hizballah website. <br><br><br><br>> whois nasrollah.org <br>Domain ID<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> 46574899-LRMS <br>Domain Name:NASROLLAH.ORG <br>Created On:08-Dec-2000 21:08:25 UTC <br>Last Updated On:13-Mar-2006 08:33:15 UTC <br>Expiration Date:08-Dec-2007 21:08:25 UTC <br>Sponsoring Registrar:Register.com Inc. (R71-LRMS) <br>Status:OK <br>Registrant ID:C12631095-RCOM <br>Registrant Name:Mohamad Hejazi <br>Registrant Organization:Hadeel.net <br>Registrant Street1:Haret Herik <br>Registrant Street2: <br>Registrant Street3: <br>Registrant City:Beirut <br>Registrant State/Province: <br>Registrant Postal Code:no <br>Registrant Country:LB <br>Registrant Phone:+961.3216933 <br>Registrant Phone Ext.: <br>Registrant FAX: <br>Registrant FAX Ext.: <br>Registrant Email:elco@cyberia.net.lb <br>Admin ID:C47632673-RCOM <br>Admin Name:Hussein Beydoun <br>Admin Organization:Hadeel.net <br>Admin Street1:Haret Herik <br>Admin Street2: <br>Admin Street3: <br>Admin City:Beirut <br>Admin State/Province: <br>Admin Postal Code:no <br>Admin Country:LB <br>Admin Phone:+1.3216933 <br>Admin Phone Ext.: <br>Admin FAX: <br>Admin FAX Ext.: <br>Admin Email:elco@cyberia.net.lb <br>Tech ID:C47632674-RCOM <br>Tech Name:Hussein Beydoun <br>Tech Organization:Hadeel.net <br>Tech Street1:Haret Herik <br>Tech Street2: <br>Tech Street3: <br>Tech City:Beirut <br>Tech State/Province: <br>Tech Postal Code:no <br>Tech Country:LB <br>Tech Phone:+1.3216933 <br>Tech Phone Ext.: <br>Tech FAX: <br>Tech FAX Ext.: <br>Tech Email:elco@cyberia.net.lb <br>Name Server<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> NS34.REGISTER.COM <br>Name Server:NS.HADEEL3.NET <br><br><br>> nslookup www.NASROLLAH.ORG <br><br>Non-authoritative answer: <br>Name: NASROLLAH.ORG <br>Address: 82.205.138.35 <br>Aliases: www.NASROLLAH.ORG <br><br><br>> whois -h whois.ripe.net 82.205.138.35 <br><br>inetnum: 82.205.138.0 - 82.205.138.63 <br>netname: HCS <br>remarks: INFRA-AW <br>descr: Horizon Communication Riyadh <br>country: sa <br>admin-c: MA3701-RIPE <br>tech-c: KK1722-RIPE <br>status: Assigned PA <br>mnt-by: HSS-MNT <br>source: RIPE # Filtered <br><br>person: Mohammed Aslam <br>address: Horizon Communication <br>phone: +96612910244 <br>e-mail: maslam@horizon-communication.com <br>nic-hdl: MA3701-RIPE <br>source: RIPE # Filtered <br><br>person: Karthikeyan K <br>address: Hejailan Projects <br>phone: +96612910244 <br>e-mail: karthik@hejailan.com <br>nic-hdl: KK1722-RIPE <br>source: RIPE # Filtered <br><br>% Information related to '82.205.128.0/19AS30729' <br><br>route: 82.205.128.0/19 <br>descr: HORIZON-SATELLITE <br>origin: AS30729 <br>mnt-by: HSS-MNT <br>source: RIPE # Filtered <br><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://companies.infobasepub.com/detail_pages/17539.html">companies.infobasepub.com...17539.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>This business is one of more than 8,000 described in the Companies database of the Defense/Aerospace Competitive Intelligence Service (DACIS), published by InfoBase Publishers. <br><br><br>Al-Hejailan Projects Co., Ltd. <br><br>PO Box 9175 <br>Riyadh 11413 <br>Saudi Arabia <br>tel: 4761414 / 4767491 <br>fax: 4729008 <br><br>Company Code: ALJ-01 <br><br>Previous Names <br>PMW: FMC-Arabia Ltd. <br><br>DESCRIPTION <br>Al-Hejailan Projects Engineering Co. is a Saudi engineering firm known to be involved in maintenance and upgrading of vehicles belonging to the Royal Saudi Land Forces Infantry Corps. <br><br>OWNERSHIP <br><br>CHRONOLOGY <br>April 2003. Al-Hejailan Group acquires the 51% stake in United Defense Systems-Arabia owned by United Defense Industries, Inc. (NYSE: UDI) for approximately $0.4 million. <br>1993. FMC-Arabia Ltd. is established as a joint venture between United Defense Industries, Inc. (Arlington, VA) and the Al-Hejailan Group (Saudi Arabia). The company is 51% owned by United Defense.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: US Defense Contractor source of Hezbollah Messages?

Postby Gouda » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:13 am

Potentially interesting. But, but, but...whoa pony - who is this:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://cnw.com/~jasonst/hejailanprojects.html,">cnw.com/~jasonst/hejailanprojects.html,</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>who is writing this? Whence it came? <br><br>Despite that, I love the <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://companies.infobasepub.com/">companies.infobasepub.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> database. What a treasure trove. More proof that defence and security is less a government/nation thing, more a private affair. <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>on edit: improper usage of "whence"</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Corrected.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 7/18/06 9:31 am<br></i>
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Re: US Defense Contractor source of Hezbollah Messages?

Postby bvonahsen » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:47 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>* 1993. FMC-Arabia Ltd. is established as a joint venture between United Defense Industries, Inc. (Arlington, VA) and the Al-Hejailan Group (Saudi Arabia). The company is 51% owned by United Defense.<br><br>[snip]<br><br>.... Why is a US defense contractor hosting a known terrorist website? </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>To give the benifit of the doubt though, United Defense may not have a lot to say about what goes on in the Al-Hejailan group. I mean, it doesn't take much to host a site and while United may have a controling share, I doubt they can always tell the Saudis what to do. Despite what our fearless leaders say, Hezbollah is a player in the region and the Saudis, well, they have all that oil, they may very well be calling the tune.<br><br>Just playing "devil's advocate" here.<br><br>BTW, there <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>is</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> software that tells you the physical location of routers. I remember reading about it on boingboing. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: US Defense Contractor source of Hezbollah Messages?

Postby bvonahsen » Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:28 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://cnw.com/~jasonst/hejailanprojects.html">cnw.com/~jasonst/hejailanprojects.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>It's gone, the whole thing went poof. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: US Defense Contractor source of Hezbollah Messages?

Postby OnoI812 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:33 pm

that link worked ....but <br><br><br>now there's this.<br><br><br><br>[CORRECTION: July 18th, 2006: UDI sold their stake in Al-Hejailan Group in April 2003] <br><br><br>But for what it's worth(probably not much)<br><br>Cloak has this little tidbit up-<br><br> P.P.P.S. Senator John Warner (R. Virginia) now aware of criminal treason involving Haliburton, BAE Systems, with the activities of both Victor Bout, Tim Spicer and Gary Best Inc., in arming and distributing weapons of mass destruction to the alleged terrorist group, Hezbollah.<br><br>What this indicates is that Hezbollah is nothing more than a Frankenstein monster created in a warehouse for the purposes of the New World Order aka New World Disorder. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=onoi812>OnoI812</A> at: 7/18/06 1:42 pm<br></i>
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