HOW TURKEY MAFIALIKE DEEP STATE PENTRATED US GOV

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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:18 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mike_mej_060724_the_secrets_behind__.htm">www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mike_mej_060724_the_secrets_behind__.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>The Secrets Behind 'State Secrets': How Turkey's Mafia-like 'Deep State' (and its Neocon Friends) Penetrated the American Govt<br> <br>by Mike Mejia <br> <br>http://www.opednews.com<br>French filmmaker Mathieu Verboud is set to release a new documentary for European television this fall which will reveal important new insights into the case of former FBI translator and president of theNational Security Whistleblower's CoalitionSibel Edmonds. Edmonds, a Turkish-American whose wrongful termination lawsuit was suppressed by the government's invocation of theall-too-common "state secrets privilege", reported to her superiors espionage and deliberate mistranslations on the part of fellow Turkish translator, Melek Can Dickerson. It seems Ms. Dickerson had relationships with targets of FBI investigation working at the Turkish Embassy and theAmerican Turkish Council, a fact which meant that anything she translated was likely to be false. However, instead of receiving a promotion for bringing Ms. Dickerson's' espionage to the attention of her bosses, Edmonds was fired after she went in frustration to the U.S. Senate. The FBI refused to investigate Edmonds' claims, at least in part, because the contract linguist had discovered quite a messy scandal: the content of the mistranslated documents revealed that some very powerful people in the U.S. government, including House Speaker Dennis Hastert, were connected to foreign organized crime. Even worse, these foreign criminals connected to the high and mighty in the U.S. were also connected internationally, through the heroin trade and associated money laundering, to international terrorist organizations like al Qaeda.<br><br>Okay, take a deep breath and take a step back: it's not a pretty picture. According to what we know so far from Sibel Edmonds' many interviews and from the groundbreaking story on her case from Vanity Fair,"An Inconvenient Patriot" , Edmonds found that within the U.S. a nest of Turkish spies, some working at the Turkish embassy, others affiliated with namely the Assembly of Turkish American Associations (ATAA), the American Turkish Associations (ATA) and the American Turkish Council (ATC), were involved in espionage, bribery, illegal lobbying, drug trafficking and the infiltration of U.S nuclear research labs. Separately, from a former CIA Counterterrorism official, Phillip Giraldi, who himself was once based in Turkey, we know that some arms sales meant for Turkey and Israel were actually meant for resale to countries like China and India- and perhaps even to international terrorists- using fake end-user certificates. So we have Turkish nationals at the Embassy and NGOs stealing U.S. secrets for sale to the highest bidder, re-selling arms meant for Turkey, bringing in drugs from Europe, and pouring money into bribes and lobbying activities.<br><br>To understand how these activities fit together- Americans must first understand what Europeans call the Turkish 'deep state'. In 1996,a car crash in a town called Susurluk revealed "link between politics, organized crime and the bureaucracy" in Turkey. As it turns out, its crippled economy in the 1990s meant Turkey had become the European equivalent of Colombia- a state almost completely dependent on the Turkish mafia and by extension, the Southwest Asian Heroin trade. Which is where the Turkish 'deep state' comes in- it becomes very difficult to determine where the 'government' ends and the 'mafia' begins. What we do know from Sibel Edmonds and other sources is this: Turkey's secular establishment, including the Turkish military and intelligence services (MIT), as well as political parties associated withformer Prime Minister Tansu Ciller, appear to have been more connected to the Turkish mafia then the Turkish Islamic Parties thatWashington abhors. Furthermore, it appears from reading into some of Edmonds' statements that the Turkish mafia was partnered with Osama Bin Laden's al Qaeda network in the drug trade- meaning Turkey's secular establishment was more connected to al Qaeda- pre/9-11- then were the Islamists in Turkey. Which is quite ironic, to say the least. <br><br>If you think this story sounds too convoluted to be true, and you feel the instinct to dismiss Edmonds' claims, think again. Every investigation into the whistleblower's charges- from the Senate Judiciary Committee to theDepartment of Justice's Inspector General Report, has found that Edmonds' story is corroborated within the FBI- which means her translations, not those of Melek Can Dickerson, were the correct ones. This also means that the aforementioned Turkish organizations, and certain Turkish diplomats, were indeed under FBI investigation. And all this put together means that peoplelike Dennis Hastert probably were- and perhaps still are- on the payroll of Turkish 'deep state' interests.<br><br>Arecent article published in the U.K. Guardian about the well-connected Kurdish Baybasin clan also gives important backing to the former translator's story. The article details howEurope's "Pablo Escobar", Huseyin Baybasin, has "alleged that he had received the assistance of Turkish embassies and consulates while moving huge consignments of drugs around Europe, and that Turkish army officers serving with Nato in Belgium were also involved." This information, of course, dovetails most precisely with what Sibel Edmonds has been hinting at for over 3 years now; that targets of FBI investigation linked with the Turkish embassy and Turkish organizations were involved in narcotics trafficking. It is clear the Baybasin gang and the secular factions in Turkey had a seemingly symbiotic relationship; the government providing the traffickers diplomatic passports and thus free reign to travel around the world without fear of prosecution. Also involved in the scandalous Turkish drug running are the very notorious,Pope-killing Grey <br>Wolves, a fascist organization connected to human rights abuses in Turkey.<br><br>As for who else besides Hastert might have been on the payroll of Mr. Baybasin and friends- we turn next to the Executive Branch. In an interview with Chris Deliso of antiwar.com, Edmonds hinted at key roles played by some powerful unelected officials-important Neconservatives likeMarc Grossman of the State Department andRichard Perle andDouglas Feith, formerly of the Defense Department. If we hit the rewind button and go back to aCBS 60 Minutes' interview in October, 2002, we remember the ex-contract linguist stated that Turkish targets of FBI investigation spies inside the U.S. State Department and at the Pentagon in order to "obtain the United States military and intelligence secrets."" It doesn't take a genius to conclude that Grossman, Feith and Perle might have been the persons to whom she was referring in 2002. Furthermore, the language specialist has repeatedly stated in past interviews that investigations into pre-9/11 terrorist financing activities were blocked"per State Department request", leaving open the question whether it was Mr. Grossman, then Undersecretary of State for European Affairs, who actively hindered investigations into the Turkey-Bin Laden link. <br><br>Perle and Feith are an interesting case in this hidden scandal. Their consultancy,International Advisors (IA), has done extensive work for the Republic of Turkey, though it is questionablewho is paying the invoices. Ms. Edmonds rhetorically asked the question of Phoenix radio personality Charles Goyette in January 2006, "For what [were they paid]? One could imagine, hypothetically, that passing state secrets might be one "service" provided to the Turkish mafia/government by IA. But would Perle and Feith have gone beyond that? Would they have introduced the Turkish mafia types to Denny Hastert, and counseled "deep state" interests in how to skirt U.S. campaign finance laws? After all, the Turks were reported to have made their initial payments from 1996-1998 through "unitemized (less than $200) contributions", after which they allegedly delivered suitcases of cash to the Speaker's front door. Someone had to teach them the intricacies of campaign finance law: was it IA? What we do know is that Perle was a key architect of the Israeli/Turkish alliance forged in the late 90s, and that Edmonds case also isconnected to the AIPAC spy scandal- leaving lots of room for speculation on how the rest of the story pans out.<br><br>As messy and ugly as this, for lack of a better phrase, "Turkish DeepState Gate" scandal appears, the consequences of continuing to do nothing about it- of allowing the government's outrageous use of 'state secrets' to insure Dennis Hastert, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Marc Grossman and others are never investigated, could behorrific. Ms. Edmonds plans to takepetitions to the Senate Judiciary Committee in the coming months to finally force full and open hearings on her case. She will try to do the type of lobbying that does not involve foreign bribery or ill-gotten gains. This will be the simple type of petitioning guaranteed of every citizen in the Constitution under the First Amendment, a long forgotten portion of the Bill of Rights. Americans aware of the situation can only hope, and do everything in their power to insure, that Ms. Edmonds' type of lobbying prevails. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: HOW TURKEY MAFIALIKE DEEP STATE PENTRATED US GOV

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:25 pm

Need I say more, Prof Pan? Funny how suppressed info keeps becoming entertainment for the masses...<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/the_interpreter/theinterpreter_bigposter.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808600385<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Escalating events begin when African-born U.N. translator Silvia Broome alleges that she has overheard a death threat against an African head of state, spoken in a rare dialect few people other than Silvia can understand. With the words “The Teacher will never leave this room alive,” in an instant, Silvia’s life is turned upside down as she becomes a hunted target of the killers.<br><br>Genres:         Drama, Thriller and Politics/Religion<br>Running Time:         1 hr. 58 min.<br>Release Date:         April 22nd, 2005 (wide)<br>MPAA Rating:         PG-13 for violence, some sexual content and brief strong language.<br>Distributors:         <br>Universal Pictures Distribution, United International Pictures<br>U.S. Box Office:         $72,515,360<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 7/27/06 11:30 am<br></i>
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Re: HOW TURKEY MAFIALIKE DEEP STATE PENTRATED US GOV

Postby LilyPatToo » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:25 pm

Ms. Edmonds is a hero to a lot of people and I'm one of them. But I have a terrible feeling that the link between the Mafia and some of our most powerful politicians is going to be permanently supressed by most of the non-electronic media. Almost all the articles on her crusade that I've read have been published online and when I mention her to people who don't rely on the internet for most of their news, almost no one recognizes her name. That's very discouraging to me. Even right after one of the news magazines did do a story on her back when she was fired, it didn't seem to register on people.<br><br>If you believe Sue Ford ("Brice Taylor"), many years ago the Mafia was tapped for financing by some very powerful men who were determined to be the power behind the visible powers of the western world. This way, the Mob gained entry into rarefied realms in which they could never have hoped to move, otherwise, even covertly. She says she believes they've since been marginalized and their power somewhat undercut as the men she calls "the Council" found other sources of funding. But the Mob still wields power and it's an international organization, as I found out personally back in 1982.<br><br>Thanks for the link to that article. If we keep the story alive, maybe enough of the Herd will wake up and listen to Edmonds' story that there will be inquiries into the Mob connections that some prominent US politicians have had for years. I would love to see that happen!<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Sarutama » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:45 pm

I'm not sure I understand what Sibel Edmonds has to do with "The Interpreter", other than the fact that they both involve linguistics? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: HOW TURKEY MAFIALIKE DEEP STATE PENTRATED US GOV

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:52 pm

CIA and Gotti money laundering of cocaine profits during the Reagan wars poked out briefly during the IranContra hearings in the testimony of Richard Brenneke who had first hand knowledge-<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nofadz.com/~serendip/cia/hayes2.html">www.nofadz.com/~serendip/cia/hayes2.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><br>Portland Free Press<br>May/June 1997<br><br> PFP Editor's note: PFP received the complete 50-page uncensored Brenneke deposition taken by Congressman William Alexander, 21 June 1991. It was faxed directly from the library at Arkansas State University, which holds the Alexander collection.<br><br> We herewith provide additional excerpts (see also "New York Mob at Mena," January/February 1997 issue). <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The questioner is Congressman Alexander; all answers are Mr. Brenneke's.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br> Before starting, two points need to be made. First, knowledge of drug-running through Mena, Arkansas has been known to the FBI and the head of the Arkansas State Police since January 1988 (see PFP November/December 1996, p. 11). The Arkansas Attorney General and Special Prosecutor Walsh have known of this since June 1991 (January/February 1997 PFP). How in the hell have the corporate media and government law enforcement succeeded in playing dumb for the past decade? <br><br>Q. You were working for the federal government agency known as the Central Intelligence Agency. In a sort of man-on-the-street vernacular, how do you keep these guys honest? I mean, do you -- what precautions did you take and [sic] the CIA to know whether or not they were dealing with this cargo in the manner in which it was intended?<br><br>A. The general procedure and the procedure specifically used in the case of Rich Mountain Aviation was to go through the files from time to time to be sure that there were no papers being kept back that would link the CIA to the activities there, and if they were, they were removed from the file; and to look at such things as income tax returns and bank statements to make sure that the people with whom we were dealing were not stealing more than their fair share.<br><br>Q. We will -- and so you checked on Hampton, did you?<br><br>A. Yes, I did.<br><br>Q. And what did you discover?<br><br>A. I discovered that Mr. Hampton was not stealing more than his fair share, and in general was performing the services that he was -- that he had agreed to provide.<br><br>Q. Now, what had he agreed to provide?<br><br>A. He provided landing facilities, a place to store the aircraft, assistance with mechanical problems on the aircraft or avionics problems on the aircraft if they were necessary to get it out of there, a storage area for drugs that were brought in, a storage area for weapons that were taken out, a place where people could rest or wait for a truck to haul them out to Nella.<br><br>Q. And how much did the CIA pay him for his services?<br><br>A. I don't know the dollar figures. That's -- the figure I saw on his tax returns at one point indicated that he had received something in excess of $10,000.<br><br>Q. Who would have handled the payment to Hampton for the CIA?<br><br>A. My understanding was that the man I was working for at the time paid him, and that was Bob Kerritt.<br><br>Q. Bob Kerritt. Can you identify where he might reside?<br><br>A. Mr. Kerritt is a full-time employee of the Central Intelligence Agency; and when I first met him, I checked on that by waiting for him to return to Washington, calling Information in the D.C. area, got the phone number for the switchboard at the CIA, called and asked for him by name, and I got him.<br><br>Q. Okay. Now, how did you check on Reale; did you check on --<br><br>A. Well, I had already seen him. He and -- I mean, I had seen him in New York. I knew who he was. And, as I say, we'd been dealing with these folks in New York since 1968-69.<br><br>Q. When you say "we," you mean the Central Intelligence Agency?<br><br>A. Yes, sir.<br><br>Q. Now, did the Gotti organizations, through Reale, pay money to the CIA for the drugs?<br><br>A. Yes, they did.<br><br>Q. Do you know how much money?<br><br>A. Firsthand knowledge, somewhere in the $50,000,000 bracket.<br><br>Q. How do you know how much money?<br><br>A. Because I banked that money for them in Panama City, and ultimately transferred it to other locations in Europe.<br><br>Q. Did they pay you in cash?<br><br>A. Yes, generally.<br><br>Q. And what do you mean "generally"; what other forms did they pay you in?<br><br>A. You're given -- I owned an aircraft in Mexico City for a while that was payment for some work I had done.<br><br>Q. I see.<br><br>A. Occasionally there were items like that.<br><br>Q. So what would be the procedure for you to receive the payment from the Gotti organization for the drugs?<br><br>A. Generally the money was -- okay. Let me restate that. The money was given to us in cash.<br><br>Q. "Us," you mean the CIA?<br><br>A. "Us" meaning the people I worked with, who were also associated with the Central Intelligence Agency. We would transfer that money to banks in Central and South America; and from there transfer it via accounts that I had established back in 1970 to -- they were accounts of which I was a beneficial holder and the named signee on it.<br><br>Q. Let's take a payment from Mr. Reale in cash, and follow the procedure step by step as you know it for the transmittal of that money from the Gotti organization to the Central Intelligence Agency.<br><br>A. Okay. That money was delivered to us in cash. There were -- there were occasions where there were wire transfers, but generally -- the generally followed method was cash. That would be stored in the aircraft on its return trip to Panama. Once it reached Panama, we would put it into a bank account, which at that time was in the Banquo DePanama.<br><br>Q. Banquo DePanama?<br><br>A. Yeah.<br><br>Q. All right.<br><br>A. And the account name was the initials IFMA, which was a company that I set up in Panama City in 1970, I believe; it may have been '69.<br><br>Q. Did you get a receipt for deposit?<br><br>A. No, sir. We would not get a receipt for deposit. The money would be deposited there, but it would be subsequently and then almost immediately transferred to -- the transfer points in general followed this way; they came -- it came to Spain or Liechtenstein, from there it went to either -- it went to Monte Carlo, and the ultimate destination was Zurich or Geneva but, in any case, Switzerland.<br><br>Q. The money was given to you by the Gotti -- the agent for the Gotti organization?<br><br>A. Yes, sir. And there were other people besides the man that I've named. And I'd have to see photographs, but I can surely pick them out for you.<br><br>Q. Well, we can return to the manner in which the money was transferred at a subsequent time. I'm trying here to identify the source of the money --<br><br>A. Yes.<br><br>Q. -- and the place that the money went to, and who received the money. And you have said that that went to the CIA?<br><br>A. To CIA accounts that I established on their behalf in the late sixties and early seventies. I still have the incorporation papers on them.<br><br>Q. How do you know that the money went to the CIA itself?<br><br>A. Because I would transfer personally that money out of that account into others.<br><br>Q. Did you ever talk to any people in the CIA about the money?<br><br>A. Sure. I talked to Mr. Kerritt from time to time, Mr. Ellis, who was also a controller, from time to time --<br><br>Q. Who is Mr. Ellis, can you tell us, and --<br><br>A. Ellis is an employee and was an associate of Mr. Kerritt's. Robert Ellis is his name, E-L-L-I-S. He was an associate of Kerritt's. The two used to work together frequently. (pp. 22-27)<br><br>Q. So you're saying that you were recruited by the CIA to organize and open accounts for the CIA for the purpose of laundering money?<br><br>A. That's correct.<br><br>Q. And how many accounts did you open for the CIA, and can you identify where those accounts were opened and in which banks?<br><br>A. Yes, I can. They were opened in Panama. The accounts -- or the companies -- if you wish, I will provide you with the Articles of Incorporation --<br><br>Q. Yes.<br><br>A. -- as they were drafted at that time.<br><br>Q. We will ask you to submit those as an exhibit to your testimony. And, of course, we will have to come together again in order for that to be presented -- those documents to be presented.<br><br>And just describe for the moment, since we're going to have to come back again with these documents, the countries, the names of the banks that you recall that you opened; where you opened accounts for the CIA.<br><br>A. Panama City, Banquo DeMexico, at one point we were using a Citibank correspondent down there whose name escapes me. I just don't recall it. We had a man on site who worked for us, as well as worked for Ron Martin, a man named Johnny Mollina, M-O-L-L-I-N-A, I believe. John was -- would spend a lot of his time in Panama City there and worked in one of the banks that we used. I set up an account in -- well, I set up more than one account in Madrid that was used. I set up an account in Brussels at Bank Lambert that was regularly used. I set up accounts at Credit Suisse and --<br><br>Q. Is that a Swiss bank?<br><br>A. That is a Swiss bank. And Bank of Credit and Commerce, commonly referred to as BCCI, also a Swiss bank. A bank that no longer exists called Bank Hoffman. And to facilitate matters -- not to drag this out -- to facilitate matters I set up a bank in Panama City on behalf of the mutual fund company I worked for so that I could ultimately control how the transfers were handled.<br><br>Q. And you organized a bank in Panama for the CIA?<br><br>A. I organized it for the company I worked for, that was -- it was subsequently used by the CIA and it was used by members of the organized crime families. The bank was called U.S. Investment Bank. It really existed in Panama City. You could actually go in and open a checking account there.<br><br>Q. And the money that you got from the Gotti organization that you put on the airplane and returned to Panama on the next trip, you personally took to a bank in Panama City?<br><br>A. You bet, I did.<br><br>Q. And you deposited that money. And can you tell us the amount of those deposits, and the directions that you would give to the officers at the bank, and the name of the bank, and where the money would go? Just detail that for us.<br><br>A. All right. The money would go into -- let's take Banquo DePanama, the Panamanian National Bank down there, as an example. I would go in. I would meet with -- at times I would meet with, for instance, Johnny Mollina. John worked for one of the banks down there, I think it was City that he worked for at one time. In any case, I would go in. I knew the bank officers by name. Unfortunately, I don't recall all their names since it's been many years ago. And I would provide them with directions as to how the money was to be transferred and where to transfer; that is -- is it to be transferred by cashier's check and courier to Madrid in a specific account there or is it to be just wire transferred to Madrid as a transfer of funds from IFMA, a Panamanian corporation, to IFMA's affiliate in Madrid or Brussels at Bank Lambert. They needed to know that. And then I would have to tell them at the other bank that money was coming into that account. (pp. 31-34)<br><br>Q. All right. Let me just ask a couple of general questions in order to try to reach a conclusion here. Did you ever discuss your concerns with the CIA Director, the late Bill Casey?<br><br>A. Yes, I did on a number of occasions. And Mr. Casey's telephone logs would reflect phone calls to me, made to me in -- specifically in Lake Oswego, which was at that time the location of my office.<br><br>Q. So Mr. Casey called you?<br><br>A. Yes, sir, he did.<br><br>Q. On how many occasions?<br><br>A. Two that I can recall specifically.<br><br>Q. What was the nature of the conversations with Mr. Casey?<br><br>A. What went wrong in Central America.<br><br>Q. Can you relate to us that discussion -- tell us what he said and what you said?<br><br>A. Certainly. Bill Casey's main concern -- there were two main concerns to him: One, exposure of the operations in Central America; and two, why did the system break down? To me he sounded like sort of a general or supervisor who doesn't have his hands on the pulse of what's really happening out in the trenches. And by this time I had caused sufficient problems for CIA and others in South and Central America that the Israelis had in fact sent over a team of people to shut down the Israeli involvement in anything that closely resembled the drug business. I could get no assistance of any kind similar to that from the United States Government, and I explained that to Mr. Casey. And his first question was, why I had gone to Israel, and I said, because I tried everybody in the U.S. Government first and they sure as hell weren't going to help.<br><br>Q. Well, we haven't asked you about that effort that you were referring to -- to try to stop the operation -- and I think my associate will ask you about that in a moment.<br><br>A. Sure.<br><br>Q. I think, finally, I want to ask you if you have any knowledge of the money that you're talking about coming from the Gotti organization being used for any other purposes, other than depositing in the bank accounts for the CIA?<br><br>A. Sure. We had to run the operations at Nella, for instance. The training facilities at Nella had to be paid for.<br><br>Q. Now, where is Nella?<br><br>A. Nella is about 10 miles out of Mena, north.<br><br>Q. North of the Mena Airport. We've not talked about that, Mr. Brenneke. Can you tell us what you know about Nella; what it is, and for what purposes it was established?<br><br>A. Sure. Nella was a training base for military and paramilitary folks from south of the border, Mexico, Panama.<br><br>Q. Who managed the base? Who operated the base?<br><br>A. Don't know the names of the operators.<br><br>Q. What agency operated the base?<br><br>A. Central Intelligence Agency, as far as I knew.<br><br>Q. Did you know anyone from the agency that was responsible for the operation?<br><br>A. I knew the names of some of the people over there. I didn't spend much time at Mena, so I'd have to answer that by saying, no, I really don't know. I do know one of the folks who was a flight instructor over there, and that was Terry Reed. (pp. 37-40) <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 7/27/06 1:10 pm<br></i>
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:08 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I'm not sure I understand what Sibel Edmonds has to do with "The Interpreter", other than the fact that they both involve linguistics?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The Interpreter's movie plot is so similar to Sibel Edmund's situation that it almost seems as if the movie was put out as a decoy to pre-empt and prevent awareness of reality by manufacturing a popular fiction.<br><br>Could this just be money-grubbing film industry minions looking to make a buck on any narrative they can co-opt? <br><br>Sure. But I see many movies like this. Seems to me to be a pattern and I've posted many examples here at RI which some poo-poo as mere scattered dots which don't form the outline of a disinfo tactic using mass media which I see as real.<br><br>I think those many dots connect all too perfectly and imply more media control than any of us would like to think exists. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby dbeach » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:41 pm

The lil traitors like perle and feith were selling nukes to the highest bidder..<br><br>I said last summer Wilson is no good guy..he hung out with Scowcraft {best buddy of poppy o bush himself}... meets Plame at some big whig party thrown by the Turks dope dealer { the amabassador} where he is gettin an award<br>by the ATC..<br><br>the players may have used wilson to get to Plame..its how they operate...she looks clean to me now .<br> BUT I still don't like wilson plus poppy o gave him some award<br><br>Its about the dope and the arms dealings <br><br>sam bush arms the Kiaser<br><br>prescott bush arms hitler <br><br>poppy o arms anyone with a couple bucks <br><br> its the bush business =arms peddlin and dope dealin <br><br>bush sells nukes and Plame bumps into it...<br><br>trying to connect these dots is a bit confusing so this is a work in progress<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_340.shtml">www.onlinejournal.com/art..._340.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>"The thought-provoking questions asked by journalists and bloggers alike are many and varied: Who, in addition to Scooter Libby and Karl Rove, was involved in leaking the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame to the media in order to punish her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, for his refutation of President Bush's Niger uranium claim? What was the role of the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) in peddling Plame's name to the media? Who forged the Niger uranium documents? What secrets lay inside the eight redacted pages of material in Circuit Judge David Tatel's decision to overide his finding of a reporters' federal shield privilege "[w]ere the leak at issue in this case less harmful to national security"? Was Plame's role at the CIA as a weapons of mass destruction expert critical, as old CIA hands like Larry Johnson contend, or was she just a paper pusher, as the pro-Bush crowd proclaims?<br><br>Although many of these questions about the Fitzgerald investigation have yet to be answered, a pair of little noticed but explosive articles authored by Christopher Deliso of antiwar.com, "Plame, Pakistan a Nuclear Turkey and the Necons" and "Lesser Neocons of L'Affaire Plame", go a long way to solving the mystery of Valerie Plame's mission at the agency and may henceforth reveal what likely lies in those mysterious eight redacted pages of Tatel's.<br><br>According to Deliso's two sources, the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet and former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, the outing of Valerie Plame may have severely damaged a CIA operation to monitor a nuclear black market faciliated by the shadowy but well-connected Washington lobby group, the American Turkish Council (ATC). (Those familiar with the Sibel Edmonds case will know the ATC is the very same organization that the former FBI translator heard on wiretaps in connection with various alleged illegal activities, some connected to 9/11.) From Edmonds, Deliso obtained the following admission: "Plame's undercover job involved the organizations [the FBI had been investigating], the ATC (American-Turkish Council) and the ATA (American-Turkish Association) . . . the Brewster Jennings network was very active in Turkey and with the Turkish community in the U.S. during the late 1990s, 2000, and 2001 . . . in places like Chicago, Boston, and Paterson, N.J."<br><br>Such a stunning statement by the former FBI contract linguist could be dismissed by those not familiar with the whistleblower's well-established credibility were it not for the fact that Edmonds is, at least in part, corroborated by Ambassador Joseph Wilson himself. In his book the Politics of Truth, Wilson recounts on page 240 that he first met Valerie Plame in 1997, at a reception at the home of the Turkish ambassador which Wilson attended to receive an award from -- you guessed it -- the American Turkish Council. Wilson, of course, never explains in his book what brought Valerie Plame to attend this ATC-sponsored event, but since it is public information that Plame was an undercover CIA operative at the time, the simplest explanation is the most likely one: she was there as part of her Brewster Jennings & Associates cover. Although U.S. law prohibits the CIA from conducting espionage operations against U.S. citizens on American soil, nothing would have prohibited Plame from attending such an event in Washington.<br><br>These revelations about Plame's surveillance of the American Turkish Council are significant because the ATC is connected to powerful neocons like Richard Perle and Douglas Feith (and, to be fair, to powerful anti-Iraq War activists like Brent Scowcroft and Joe Wilson.) And Edmonds implies that at least some on the ATC neocon side of this scandal are heavily involved in the nuclear black market: Feith and Perle, along with former Ambassador to Turkey Marc Grossman, are fingered by Edmonds as figures of interest.<br><br>One only has to recall that Perle and Feith are close allies of Scooter Libby, one of the original leakers of Plame's identity to the media, to conclude that Libby may have had more than one motive in seeing Plame's career and the whole Brewster Jennings operation destroyed. While several Beltway journalists, including the liberal Richard Cohen of the Washington Post, have tried to virtually chase Patrick Fitzgerald out of town by peddling the GOP storyline that going after the Plame leaker(s) amounts to "criminalizing politics," this new evidence suggests that the leak may not have been done in the spirit of good, old fashioned Washington hardball after all: A good case could now be made that outing Plame was an intentional act pepetrated to protect real criminal activity. Casting the investigation in such a light may show that a violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act could still be in play."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-Turkish_Council">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ame...sh_Council</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"American-Turkish Council<br>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br>Jump to: navigation, search<br>According to its 2005 annual report, current ATC board members include:<br><br>Brent Scowcroft, the board chairman and former national security adviser for George H. W. Bush <br>George Perlman of Lockheed Martin <br>Elizabeth Avery of Pepsico <br>Ozer Baysal of Pfizer <br>Andy Button of Boeing <br>Richard K. Douglas of General Electric <br>Sherry Grandjean of Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation <br>John R. Miller of Raytheon <br>Selig A. Taubenblatt of Bechtel <br><br>ATC's advisory board also includes representatives of a number of high-powered defense, pharmaceutical, consulting, and technology firms, including General Atomics, BAE Systems, Motorola, and the Cohen Group. Daniel Pipes is a former ATC board member.<br><br>Growing media scrutiny of the ATC is a result of allegations made by FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds regarding suspect activities of council members in an article in the September 2005 Vanity Fair."<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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scowcroftand poppy o are pals . wilson meets scowcroft and become pals .<br> poppy o appoints spoiled brat wilson to a few amabassador gigs<br><br>its all so convenient that wilson let poppy o read his article criticizing jr brainless before submitting it<br><br>Wilson speaks:<br><br>"I served my country as a diplomat for almost twenty-three years, including tours in Niamey, Niger, and in Baghdad, Iraq as Deputy Chief of Mission and Charge d'Affaires, (acting Ambassador) during the Desert Shield phase of the first Gulf War. I was also appointed Ambassador to Gabon and Sao Tome and Principe by President George Herbert Walker Bush, and concluded my public service career as Special Assistant to President Clinton and Senior Director for African Affairs at the National Security Council. I am the recipient of numerous awards from the Department of State as well as the Distinguished Defense Service Award from the Department of Defense for my service as Political Adviser to the Commander in Chief of American Armed Forces in Europe during the deployment of American troops to Bosnia."<br><br><br><br>I don't agree with some of this father /son rivalry but the chumminess of the privleged is so evident in the plamegate fiasco MAYBE plame is clean maybe not ??<br><br>but Wilson looks to me like another bushlicker <br><br>Amazin how someone ALWAYS changes the subject and something else arrives to keep the AWOL/Deserter of the TX Air Guard from the criminal pinstripes he is destined to don...<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/10/ill-believe-in-santa-claus-before-ill.html">firedoglake.blogspot.com/...e-ill.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>"So when Joe Wilson appeared on the BushCo. radar as an administration critic, I'll believe Bush didn't register it when I'll believe Cheney came clean during his first tete-a-tete with Fitzgerald. <br><br>Wingnutia may want to impugn Wilson shamelessly, but Poppy called him a "true American hero" and raised him to the rank of Ambassador for the skillful way he handled himself in the midst of a very delicate and dangerous situation during the first Iraq war.<br><br>Moreover -- Scowcroft loved him.<br><br>Scowcroft and Wilson were chummy. They both sat on the American Turkish Council. As Wilson said in his book:<br>We fell into an easy relationship and would banter back and forth about the new administration and its predecessors. After board meetings or other events, we'd often Metro back across town together. As the obsession with Iraq overtook many influential members of the Bush administration, our conversations turned frequently to the emerging debate on Iraq and the merits of the approach being advanced by the prowar crowd.<br>Hallo! Wilson would pal around with Poppy's best friend and trash Junior. Then Scowcroft publicly called Junior out:<br>Brent Scowcroft was becoming increasingly concerned that perhaps his earlier optimism had been misplaced. No longer certain that the administration would shun the neoconservative path, he wrote a piece that appeared in the Wall Street Journal. on August 15, 2002. He warned of potential disaster if we tried to deal with Saddam militarily.<br>Before Wilson published his October 13, 2002 article for the San Jose Mercury News in which he was openly critical of BushCo.'s ramp up to war, he sent it to Scowcroft and Baker for review, as well as Poppy. Catch this:<br>Brent called me when he received the article. He kindly asked if he could "take it over to the White House," only about two blocks from his downtown office. He said that he thought senior officials ought to read the views of somebody who actually had experience in Iraq and with Saddam's government. (p. 296, my emphasis)<br>So Poppys best friend Scowcroft (who's already on record for publicly calling Junior a fuckup) carries Wilson's article down to the White House and swats Junior over the head with it like a dog that had peed on the rug. Acting as a stand-in for his war veteran dad, holding Wilson up as a model of patriotism and bravery while laughing at Nintendo boy for launching a foolish war from the comfort of his Barcalounger."<br> <p></p><i></i>
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