Info on Italy's CIA-backed Dual State - P2, Gelli, Gladio

by **rain** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:14 am

"London remained a major base for OSS, containing the largest number of personnel outside the United States. R and A and X-2 were particularly active, and SI (espionage) and SO operations continued to be launched from the airfield at Harrington. London also provided the headquarters for OSS operations in Scandinavia. Donovan met with branch chiefs and reviewed these operations, especially the efforts to supply the Resistance forces in northern Norway. The British had not cooperated fully in this activity, refusing to allocate RAF aircraft manned by Norwegian pilots. In late March the use of American aircraft with inexperienced pilots had resulted in a disastrous drop in Norway of a group headed by Lt. William Colby, years later Director of Central Intelligence. Two planes crashed, men were killed, and many supplies were dropped irretrievably off target" <a href="https://www.cia.gov/csi/kent_csi/docs/v37i3a09p_0005.htm">/www.cia.gov/csi/kent_csi...p_0005.htm</a>

by **chiggerbit** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:27 am

last week i sent her the text of the EU resolution trying to end gladio rain, do you have this that you can post? Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/11/06 11:30 pm

by **chiggerbit** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:01 am

Crap, I can't believe how may times I have had to log in the last couple of days. Ok, I posted this on page 2 of this discussion: Again, not sure of the source: theuniversalseduction.com...stitutions ".... Another person, Greer claims, that was part of the control group was William Colby, the former CIA director who was deeply involved in setting up the European Stay-Behind networks. Colby's role in Vietnam has been questioned due to his role in Project Phoenix and the Nugan Hand Bank (He was an attorney of this bank that is suspected of having been a world wide heroin money laundering center, revolving around Ted Shackley's secret team. One of Shackley's best friends was Conrad Gerber, a major player in the international oil markets who is a present-daymember of Le Cercle). Look at Wiki's entry on Ted Shakley: Theodore "Ted" Shackley (1927-2002) was an American CIA agent. He was commonly known as the “Blond Ghost” due to his dislike of being photographed, and was involved in many important CIA operations, mostly in the 1960’s / 70s. His work included being station chief in Miami during the period of the Cuban Missile Crisis (Oct 1962), and Operation Mongoose aka "The Cuban Project" (1961 - 1962), which he directed. He was also the director of the controversial "Phoenix Program" during the Vietnam war. He was CIA station chief in Laos, 1966-1968, where he pitted Hmong villagers against Vietcong who used the Ho Chi Minh Trail. He became CIA station chief in Saigon in October 1968 (replacing William Colby), and stayed through February 1972 when he returned to Langley, VA. In 1976, George H.W. Bush appointed Shackley the CIA's Associate Deputy Director for Operations, the #3 post, in charge of worldwide covert operations. He was pushed into retirement by Stansfield Turner in 1979, after associating with Edwin P. Wilson. He worked for Thomas Clines' International Research and Trade, then formed his own company, Research Associates International. He allegedly played a role in the 1980 US presidential election's October surprise. He later became involved in the Iran-Contra Affair. Shackley died on December 9, 2002, after struggling with cancer for a long period. He was 75. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Shackley">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Shackley</a> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/12/06 12:04 am

by **chiggerbit** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:08 am

Ok, re the above information, what's very interesting about Stansfield Turner is that he survived a plane crash in Central America WHICH KILLED HIS WIFE. Both this "accident" and Colby's canoe "accident" happened when Turner and Colby were long-gone from the CIA. And BOTH were considered "liberal" CIA directors. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/12/06 12:23 am

by **rain** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:10 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>the text of the EU resolution trying to end gladio<hr></blockquote> Record: TITLE: GLADIO - resolution of the European Parliament bacdoc May=1991 European Parliament - 22.11.90 joint resolution replacing B3-2021, 2058, 2068, 2078 and 2087/90 RESOLUTION on the GLADIO affair A. having regard to the revelation by several European governments of the existence for 40 years of a clandestine parallel intelligence and armed operations organization in several Member States of the Community, B. whereas for over 40 years this organization has escaped all democratic controls and has been run by the secret services of the states concerned in collaboration with NATO, c. fearing the danger that such clandestine network may have interfered illegally in the internal political affairs of Member States or may still do so, D. whereas in certain Member States military secret services (or uncontrolled branches thereof) were involved in serious cases of terrorism and crime as evidenced by, various judicial inquiries, E. whereas these organizations operated and continue to operate completely outside the. law since they are not subject to any parliamentary control and frequently those holding the highest government and constitutional posts are kept in the dark as to these matters, F. whereas the various `GLADIO' organizations have at their disposal independent arsenals and military resources which give them an unknown strike potential, thereby jeopardizing the democratic structures of the countries in which they are operating or have been operating, G. greatly concerned at the existence of decision-making and operational bodies which are not subject to any form of democratic control and are of a completely clandestine nature at a time when greater Community cooperation in the field of security is a constant subject of discussion, 1. Condemns the clandestine creation of manipulative and operational networks and Calls for a full investigation into the nature, structure, aims and all other aspects of these clandestine organizations or any splinter groups, their use for illegal interference in the internal political affairs of the countries concerned, the problem of terrorism in Europe and the possible collusion of the secret services of Member States or third countries; 2 . Protests vigorously at the assumption by certain US military personnel at SHAPE and in NATO of the right to encourage the establishment in Europe of a clandestine intelligence and operation network; 3. Calls on the governments of the Member States to dismantle all clandestine military and paramilitary networks; 4. Calls on the judiciaries of the countries in which the presence of such military organizations has been ascertained to elucidate fully their composition and modus operandi and to clarify any action they may have taken to destabilize the democratic structures of the Member States; S. Requests all the Member States to take the necessary measures, if necessary by establishing parliamentary committees of inquiry, to draw up a complete list of organizations active in this field, and at the same time to monitor their links with the respective state intelligence services and their links, if any, with terrorist action groups and/or other illegal practices; 6. Calls on the Council of Ministers to provide full information on the activities of these secret intelligence and operational services; 7. Calls on its competent committee to consider holding a hearing in order to clarify the role and impact of the 'GLADIO' organization and any similar bodies; 8. Instructs its President to forward this resolution to the Commission, the Council, the Secretary-General of NATO, the governments of the Member States.and the United States Government. <a href="http://www.poptel.org.uk/cgi-bin/dbs2/statewatch?query=Gladio&mode=records&row_id=4">www.poptel.org.uk/cgi-bin...s&row_id=4</a> <a href="http://www.strategytalk.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=36554&">www.strategytalk.org/phpB...p?p=36554&</a>

by **chiggerbit** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:15 am

the text of the EU resolution trying to end gladio ?

by **chiggerbit** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:19 am

See why I wonder what Mae Brussell's 1983 diagram of the Pentagon's revelance is for today's CIA conspiracies? Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/12/06 12:35 am

by **rain** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:04 am

a little text on Le Cercle <a href="http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/le_cercle.htm">www.gnosticliberationfron...cercle.htm</a>

by **rain** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:26 am

a chronology from PHP <a href="http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/documents/collection_gladio/chronology.htm">www.isn.ethz.ch/php/docum...nology.htm</a> 1940 In England Prime Minister Winston Churchill creates the secret stay-behind army Special Operations Executive (SOE) to set Europe ablaze by assisting resistance movements and carrying out subversive operations in enemy held territory. After the end of World War Two the stay-behind armies are created on the experiences and strategies of SOE with the involvement of former SOE officers 1944 London and Washington agree on the importance of keeping Western Europe free from Communism. In Greece a large Communist demonstration taking place in Athens against British interference in the post war government is dissolved by gunfire of secret soldiers leaving 25 protesters dead and 148 wounded. 1945 In Finland Communist Interior Minister Leino exposes a secret stay-behind which is being closed down. 1947 In the United States President Harry Truman creates the National Security Council (NSC) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). The covert action branch of the CIA, the Office of Policy Coordination (OPC) under Frank Wisner sets up stay-behind armies in Western Europe. 1947 In France Interior Minister Edouard Depreux reveals the existence of a secret stay-behind army in France codenamed „Plan Bleu“. 1947 In Austria a secret stay-behind is exposed which had been set up by right-wing extremists Soucek and Rössner. Chancellor Körner pardons the accused under mysterious circumstances. 1948 In France the "Western Union Clandestine Committee" (WUCC) is being created to coordinate secret unorthodox warfare. After the creation of NATO a year later the WUCC is being integrated into the military alliance under the name “Clandestine Planning Committee” (CPC). 1949 The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) is founded and the European headquarters is established in France. 1951 In Sweden CIA agent William Colby based at the CIA station in Stockholm supports the training of stay-behind armies in neutral Sweden and Finland and in the NATO members Norway and Denmark. 1952 In Germany former SS officer Hans Otto reveals to the criminal police in the city of Frankfurt in Hessen the existence of the fascist German stay-behind army BDJ-TD. The arrested righ-wing extremist are found non guilty under mysterious circumstances. 1953 In Sweden the police arrests right winger Otto Hallberg and discovers the Swedish stay-behind army. Hallberg is set free and charges against him are mysteriously dropped. 1957 In Norway the director of the secret service NIS, Vilhelm Evang, protests strongly against the domestic subversion of his country through the United States and NATO and temporarily withdraws the Norwegian stay-behind army from the CPC meetings. 1958 In France NATO founds the Allied Clandestine Committee (ACC) to coordinate secret warfare and the stay-behind armies. When NATO establishes new European headquarters in Brussels the ACC under the code name SDRA 11 is hidden within the Belgian military secret service SGR who has its headquarters next to NATO. 1960 In Turkey the military supported by secret armies stages a coup d’état and kill Prime Minister Adnan Menderes. 1961 In Algeria members of the French stay-behind and officers from the French War in Vietnam found the illegal Organisation Armee Secrete (OAS) and with CIA support stage a coup in Algiers against the French government of de Gaulle which fails. 1964 In Italy the secret stay-behind army Gladio is involved in a silent coup d’état when General Giovanni de Lorenzo in Operation Solo forces the Italian Socialist Ministers to leave the government. 1965 In Austria police forces discover a stay-behind arms cache in an old mine close to Windisch-Bleiberg and force the British authorities to hand over a list with the location of 33 other MI6 arms caches in Austria. 1966 In Portugal the CIA sets up Aginter Press which under the direction of Captain Yves Guerin Serac runs a secret stay-behind army and trains its members in covert action techniques including hands on bomb terrorism, silent assassination, subversion techniques, clandestine communication and infiltration and colonial warfare. 1966 In France President Charles de Gaulle denounces the secret warfare of the Pentagon and expells the European headquarters of NATO. As the military alliance moves to Brussels secret NATO protocols are revealed that allegedly protect right-wingers in anti-communist stay-behind armies. 1967 In Greece the stay-behind army Hellenic Raiding Force takes over control over the Greek Defence Ministry and starts a military coup d’état installing a right wing dictatorship. 1968 In Sweden a British MI6 agent closely involved with the stay-behind army betrays the secret network to the Soviet secret service KGB. 1969 In Mocambique the Portugese stay-behind army Aginter Press assassinates Eduardo Mondlane, President of the Mocambique liberation party and leader of the FRELIMO movement (Frente de Liberacao de Mocambique). 1969 In Italy the Piazza Fontana massacre in Milano kills sixteen and injures and maimes 80 and is blame on the left. Thirty years later during a trial of right-wing extremists General Giandelio Maletti, former head of Italian counter-intelligence, claims that the massacre had been carried out by the Italian stay-behind army and right wing terrorists on the orders of the US secret service Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in order to discredit the Italian Communists. 1970 In Spain right wing terrorists including Stefano delle Chiaie of the Gladio stay-behind army are hired by Franco’s secret police. They had fled Italy following an aborted coup during which right-wing extremist Valerio Borghese had ordered the secret army to occupy the Interior Ministry in Rome. 1971 In Turkey the military stages a coup d’état and takes over power. The stay-behind army Counter-Guerrilla engages in domestic terror and kills hundreds. 1972 In Italy a bomb explodes in a car near the village Peteano killing three Carabinieri. The terror, first blamed on the left, is later traced back to right-wing terrorist Vincenzo Vinciguerra and the Italian stay-behind code named Gladio. 1974 In Italy a massacre during an anti-fascist demonstration in Brescia kills eight and injures and maims 102, while a bomb in the Rome to Munich train “Italicus Express”, kills 12 and injures and maims 48. 1974 In Denmark the secret stay-behind army Absalon tries in vain to prevent a group of leftist academics from becoming members of the directing body of the Danish Odense University whereupon the secret army is exposed. 1974 In Italy General Vito Miceli, chief of the military secret service, is arrested on charges of subversive conspiracy against the state and reveals the NATO stay-behind secret army during trial. 1976 In Germany in the secret service BND secretary Heidrun Hofer is arrested after having revealed the secrets of the German stay-behind army to her husband who was a spy of the Soviet secret service KGB. 1977 In Turkey the stay-behind army Counter-Guerrilla attacks a demonstration of 500'000 in Istambul by opening fire at the speaker's platform leaving thirty-eight killed and hundreds injured. 1977 In Spain the secret stay-behind army with support of Italian right-wing terrorists carries out the Atocha massacre in Madrid and in an attack on a lawyer's office closely linked to the Spanish Communist party kill five people. 1978 In Norway the police discovers a stay-behind arms ache and arrests Hans Otto Meyer who reveals the Norwegian secret army. 1978 In Italy former Prime Minister and leader of the Christian Democratic Party, Aldo Moro, is taken hostage in Rome by an armed secret unit and killed 55 days later because he wanted to include the Italian Communists in the government. 1980 In Italy a bomb explodes in the waiting room of the second class at the Bologna railway station, killing 85 and seriously injuring and maiming a further 200. Investigators trace the crime back to right-wing terrorists. 1980 In Turkey the commander of the stay-behind army Counter-Guerrilla, General Kenan Evren, stages a military coup and seizes power. 1981 In Germany a large stay-behind arsenal is being discovered near the German village of Uelzen in the Lüneburger Heide. Right wing extremists are alleged to have used the arsenal in the previous year to carry out a massacre during the Munich October bear festival killing 13 and wounding 213 1983 In the Netherlands strollers in the forest discover a large arms cache near the Dutch village Velp and force the government to confrim that the arms were related to NATO planning for unorthodox warfare. 1984 In Turkey the stay-behind army Counter-Guerrilla fights against the Curds and kills and tortures thousands in the following years. 1984 In Italy right-wing terrorist Vincenzo Vinciguerra in court reveals Operation Gladio and the involvement of NATO’s stay-behind army in acts of terrorism in Italy designed to discredit the communists. He is sentenced to life and imprisoned. 1985 In Belgium a secret army attacks and shoots shoppers in supermarkets randomly in the Brabant county killing twenty-eight and leaving many wounded. Investigations link the terror to a conspiracy among the Belgian stay-behind SDRA8, the Belgian Gendarmerie SDRA6, the Belgian right-wing group Westland New Post, and the Pentagon secret service Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). 1990 In Italy judge Felice Casson discovers documents on Operation Gladio in the archives of the Italian military secret service in Rome and forces Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti to confirm the existence of a secret army within the state to parliament. As Andreotti insists that Italy had not been the only country involved in the conspiracy the secret anti-communist stay-behind armies are discovered across Western Europe. 1990 In Switzerland Colonel Herbert Alboth, a former commander of the Swiss secret stay-behind army P26, in a confidential letter to the Defence Departement declares that he is willing to reveal „the whole truth“. Thereafter he is found in his house stabbed with his own military bayonet. The detailed parliamentary report on the Swiss secret army is being presented to the public on November 17. 1990 In Belgium the NATO linked stay-behind headquarters Allied Clandestine Committee (ACC) meets on October 23 and 24 under the presidency of Belgian General Van Calster, director of the Belgian military secret service SGR. 1990 In Belgium on November 5 NATO categorically denies the allegations of Prime Minister Andreotti concerning NATO's involvement in Operation Gladio and secret unorthdox warfare in Western Europe. The next day NATO explains that the denial of the previous day had been false while refusing to answer any further questions. 1990 In Belgium the parliament of the European Union (EU) sharply condemns NATO and the United States in a resolution for having manipulated European politics with the stay-behind armies. 1991 In Sweden the media reveals that a secret stay-behind army existed in neutral Finland with an exile base in Stockholm. Finnish Defence Minister Elisabeth Rehn calls the revelations "a fairy tale", adding cautiously "or at least an incredible story, of which I know nothing.” 1991 In the United States the National Security Archive at the George Washington University in Washington files a Freedom of Information (FOIA) request concerning the secret stay-behind armies with the CIA in the interest of public information and scientific research. The CIA rejects the request with the standart reply: "The CIA can neither confirm nor deny the existence or non-existence of records responsive to your request." 1995 In England the London based Imperial War Museum in the permanent exhibition "Secret Wars" reveals next to a big box full of explosives that the MI6 and SAS had set up stay-behind armies across Western Europe. 1995 In Italy the Senate commission headed by Senator Giovanni Pellegrino researching Operation Gladio and the assassination of former Prime Minister Aldo Moro files a FOIA request with the CIA. The CIA rejects the request and replies: "The CIA can neither confirm nor deny the existence or non-existence of records responsive to your request." 1996 In Austria stay-behind arms caches set up by the CIA are discovered. For the Austrian government Oliver Rathkolb of Vienna University files a FOIA request concerning the secret stay-behind armies with the CIA. The CIA rejects the request and replies: "The CIA can neither confirm nor deny the existence or non-existence of records responsive to your request." <a href="http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/documents/collection_gladio/chronology.htm">www.isn.ethz.ch/php/docum...nology.htm</a> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rain@rigorousintuition>rain</A> at: 9/12/06 1:30 am

by **chiggerbit** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:28 am

1996, only 10 years ago?

by **rain** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:40 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>1996, only 10 years ago? <hr></blockquote> LOL, maybe I should take a leaf out of 'their' book and say, that I <blockquote>Quote:<hr>can neither confirm nor deny the existence or non-existence of records responsive to your request."<hr></blockquote> I'm sure the list goes on, but from 2001, contemporary history catches up.

by **Gouda** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:36 am

4 other reminders of near contemporary CIA/SISMI/Italian Right & transatlantic fascist mafia joint efforts. #3 is Opus Dei-linked, just for fun. 1.) The Italian wiretapping scandal surrounding the Abu Omar kidnapping/rendition (or the Abu Omar kidnapping/rendition scandal surrounding the Italian wiretapping investigations) "Two Strange Deaths in European Wiretapping Scandal" <a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm13.showMessage?topicID=182.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...=182.topic</a> 2.) The recently re-discovered Italian parallel fascist police-intel network: "Up to 200 Italian police 'ran parallel anti-terror force' " <a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article296897.ece">news.independent.co.uk/eu...296897.ece</a> <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/1/134912/3377">www.dailykos.com/story/20...34912/3377</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Gaetano Saya and Riccardo Sindoca are founders of a political organization called Destra Nazionale - Nuovo Msi [The National Right - Italian Socialist Movement] and claim to be ex-members of Gladio. <hr></blockquote> 3.) Signor Roveraro, banker, Opus Dei, dead. "Banker in food scandal is found dead after Opus Dei meeting" <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5203172.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5203172.stm</a> <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2280543_1,00.html">www.timesonline.co.uk/art..._1,00.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> The news magazine Panorama yesterday headlined its account “The Roveraro Code”, saying the case involved “rivers of money, opaque interests and shady figures”. Signor Roveraro was the founder of Akros Finanziaria, a financial services group. Alberto Nobili and Guido Salvini, the magistrates leading the inquiry, said that they were also looking into his “interests” in companies registered in Lugano and London and the recent collapse of an Austrian “high risk” investment firm that he had helped to set up. <hr></blockquote> 4.) The Vittorio Emanuele (P2), Prince of Naples, gambling, corruption and prostitution tip-of-the-iceberg scandal, with all kinds of SISMI links, with a dash of Bulgarian spice, and there's the bad finance nexus of Lugano again.

by **chiggerbit** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:46 pm

The "Salvador Option" looks the same as the Left Behind organizations <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0210-22.htm">www.commondreams.org/views05/0210-22.htm</a> "....Today, with the Pentagon’s “Salvador Option” on the table, it’s time to revisit this hidden history of European counter-terrorism. While the Washington press corps seems convinced that the main problem with the "Salvador Option" is that the Pentagon is taking over what’s always been the CIA’s turf, the story of NATO’s stay-behind armies suggests that whether the CIA or Pentagon runs it, the new program will be a very ugly business. As one of Gladio’s operatives said, “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security.....”

by **dugoboy** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:28 pm

i hadnt given this thread much attention and i think its because this stuff scares me.. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security.....” <hr></blockquote> just makes you wonder why they are waiting so long... edit: just noticed this on the recommended list on dailykos link: <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/12/51659/4985" target="top">Appeasing the Nazis - Bush family history for Kossacks</a> ___________________________________________ "BushCo aren't incompetent...they are Complicit!" -Me "Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell "When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma GandhiEdited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 9/12/06 12:34 pm

by **chiggerbit** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:41 pm

Has this link been posted before in older threads? Very interesting to read it in the context of the Left Behind organizations. <a href="http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=45598&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=86ee0a4b6d62265717583836fa4b17f3">www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/v...36fa4b17f3</a>

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