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Turkey, EU, Armenian genocide, Nobel prize, NATO, Markets

Postby Gouda » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:10 am

Ah yes, the political and market tools in use to cynically abuse the reality of genocide, and its history, for political and market ends. Let the proxy wars continue...<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> French in Turkey 'genocide' row</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/10/12/france.turkey.reut/index.html">edition.cnn.com/2006/WORL...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>PARIS, France (Reuters) -- Ignoring Turkish protests, the French lower house of parliament overwhelmingly approved a bill on Thursday making it a crime to deny Armenians suffered genocide in 1915 at the hands of the Ottoman Turks...<br><br>The legislation establishes a one-year prison term and 45,000 euro ($56,570) fine for anyone denying the genocide -- exactly the same sanctions as those imposed for denying the Nazi genocide of Jews during World War Two...<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><br>However, some Turks think French politicians have more on their minds than 20th century history and suspect they are using the bill to further complicate Ankara's already uphill struggle to join the European Union.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>The majority of French people are opposed to Turkey joining the 25-nation bloc and fears over its potential membership was given as one of the reasons why France voted last year to reject the EU constitution...<br><br>"(This vote) can only worsen prospects for EU accession and will move the Turkish population even further away from pro-EU sentiment," said Lars Christensen with Danske Bank in Denmark.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"We have long been optimistic that Turkey will become an EU member, but we're moving in the wrong direction, which will really affect markets," he added.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Both outgoing President Chirac and Socialist presidential frontrunner Segolene Royal say Turkey must acknowledge the genocide before joining the EU, while <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>conservative frontrunner Nicolas Sarkozy is opposed to its EU entry under any conditions</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> EU concern at French genocide vote</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/10/12/france.turkey.reax.reut/index.html">edition.cnn.com/2006/WORL...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>BRUSSELS, Belgium (Reuters) -- The European Union said French parliament approval on Thursday of a bill making it a crime to deny Armenians suffered genocide by Ottoman Turks could harm efforts to end decades of dispute over the killings...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Pamuk wins Nobel literature prize</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/10/12/nobel.literature/index.html">edition.cnn.com/2006/WORL...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>STOCKHOLM, Sweden (CNN) -- Turkish author Orham Pamuk, who has clashed with his country's government and was taken to court for "insulting Turkishness," has won the 2006 Nobel Prize for Literature...<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The choice of 54-year-old Istanbul-born Pamuk comes during a political controversy involving Turkey and the massacre of Armenians during World War I in the last days of the Ottoman Empire.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Pamuk, a widely-known known author whose works have been translated into many languages, went on trial for telling a Swiss newspaper in February 2005 that Turkey was unwilling to deal with two of the most painful episodes in recent Turkish history: the massacre of Armenians during World War I, which Turkey insists was not a planned genocide, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>and recent guerrilla fighting in Turkey's overwhelmingly Kurdish southeast...<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Last year's winner was British playwright Harold Pinter, a vociferous critic of U.S. foreign policy. That award triggered accusations that the Swedish Academy was anti-American, left-leaning and politically motivated.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>2 Former Empires Rattled by proxies of the Present Empire?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=6316.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...6316.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 10/12/06 8:14 am<br></i>
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Turkey most important country for Heroin(TM) and #2 in NATO

Postby * » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:51 am

<br><br> lifted whole from drdebug at <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=23931">ProgressiveIndependent</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"Almost all distribution routes pass through Turkey and it is in Turkey where you have the processing plants. The Heroin(TM) gets smuggled to Turkey from Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran, processed there, and then shipped to Europe and North America. Therefore all the major drug dealers involved in Heroin(TM) are in Istanbul. The reason why Sibel Edmonds knew all about 9/11 (I consider that part proven, since all her statement are absolutely correct) is because she was listening in to the conversations of the Turkish Intelligence.<br><br> Turkey is also a very strange country. It is bordering between the first and the third world, between Europe, Middle East and Asia. The major cities are westernized, reasonably wealthy, and more or less secular, however the country side still is still very poor, dominated by Islam, and very much eastern.<br><br> The main thing Turkey has done since World War II was join NATO because they were bordering on Russia, so the NATO wanted them to be allies, and Turkey spend fortunes on their defense and therefore have the second largest military within NATO even surpassing the United Kingdom and France. The reason for the billion dollar bribe to Turkey was to keep out of Iraq. And the reason why the occassional raid into Iraq are overlooked, is simply because the United States doesn't want to upset Turkey, since they are far too strong and they have already shown with Cyprus that they do not hesitate to launch an invasion against a NATO member.<br><br> As far as Lockheed Martin, BAE, Boeing, etc. go, they love Turkey because it's a big spender on the military market. They will never say no, because it's their biggest customer after the United States. Whatever Turkey wants, Turkey gets. And the defense industry doesn't care that it is just to suppress local minorities and that a large portion of the Turkish budget is not spend on fighting poverty, but on extending their already impressive army."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Turkey most important country for Heroin(TM) and #2 in N

Postby Gouda » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:13 pm

Thanks for the link(s) 1 tal. drdebug is right. One could also factor in the Turkish gladio element. And the fact that they control large amounts of water flow to the middle east via the Ataturk dams in Kurd country. Turkey, methinks, is the power-hinge for oh so much. And the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.kurdmedia.com/articles.asp?id=13383">Lockheed Martin, Joseph Ralston and the PKK</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> stuff is exactly what I could have used in the other Turkey/Kurd-related thread. I did not know Ralston was on Lockheed's board. Those Balkan boys are doing quite well for themselves in the post-Clinton private war industry, post-Balkan middle-east balkanization project. <p></p><i></i>
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