wayne madesen on WAR IN THE DARK, new book by german

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wayne madesen on WAR IN THE DARK, new book by german

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:10 pm

October 25, 2006 -- A new book in Germany is casting light on Israel's covert program to provoke violence among Muslims in Western Europe and engage in "false flag" operations in order for Western governments to blame Muslim radicals. The book, Der Krieg im Dunkeln (War in the Dark) by Udo Ulfkotte, formerly a correspondent for the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, provides details of the operations of two Israeli intelligence units -- the Metsada, which specializes in sabotage, including "false flag" terrorist attacks and assassinations; and LAP (Lohamah Psichlogit), which engages in psychological warfare.<br><br><br><br>Mossad logo: The imprimatur of Israeli intelligence is found all over Muslim riots in France.<br><br>Ulfkotte's previous book on Islamist extremism, titled The War In Our Cities, was withdrawn from the German market because of "massive legal pressures by Islamic plaintiffs." Ulfkotte claims that British and German intelligence agents encountered Metsada and LAP agents in France stirring up violence during the November 2005 riots, blamed on Islamic extremists. WMR has also reported that Interior Minister and presidential candidate Nicolas Sarkozy, who is supported by pro-Israeli factions in France, coordinated and continues to coordinate the paying of agents provocateurs to engage in violence in the predominantly Muslim Banlieus of Paris and other cities. The November 2005 riots spread from Paris to Rouen, Lille, Nice, Dijon, Strasbourg, Marseilles (where Mossad's Brach C, also responsible for Paris and London, maintains a large station), Bordeaux, Rennes, Pau, Orleans, Toulouse, Lyon, Roubaix, Avignon, Saint-Dizier, Drancy, Evreux, Nantes, Dunkirk, Montpellier, Valenciennes, Cannes, and Tourcoing.<br><br>Ulfkotte also quotes a British MI-6 source who reported that Israel's goal is to portray Muslims as unpredictable threats who cannot be integrated into Western society.<br><br>Meanwhile, U.S. intelligence sources report a continuing Israeli intelligence effort to engage in false flag operations in the United States. In addition to Israeli nationals and dual U.S-Israeli nationals being caught casing tunnels, bridges, military bases, tall buildings, government agencies, private homes of U.S. law enforcement agents, airports, oil and chemical plants, and other prospective targets, Israeli nationals continue to be caught engaged in other terror "scare" tactics. There has also been an unprecedented infiltration by Mossad agents into sensitive and top-level positions in the Department of Defense, CIA, Homeland Security Department, FBI, and other agencies, all of which continue to officially recognize Israel as a "hostile intelligence" nation.<br><br>On Monday, Yechezkel Wells, a 21-year old dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, pleaded guilty to phoning in a false bomb threat on August 26 to Long Beach (California) Airport Emergency Services from a pay phone. Wells claimed that he made the call because he was late for his flight and hoped to delay his plane from taking off. Wells said that there was a bomb on the Jet Blue flight from Long Beach to Fort Lauderdale, Florida. The Jet Blue flight was delayed for one hour.<br><br>Not much is known about Wells. He claims he is a student but there is no information on what school he attends. Wells pleaded guilty to a single felony count of conveying false information of a threat targeting an airplane. Sentencing is scheduled for Jan. 29, 2007 and Wells faces a maximum of five years in prison or probation. If the past is prologue, we can expect the Bush administration to agree to probation in return for Wells' deportation to Israel, where he, like hundreds of other Mossad, Metsada, and LAP agents caught engaged in false flag terrorist and psychological operations in the United States before, during, and after the 911 attacks, can continue to ply their trade in deception.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: wayne madesen on WAR IN THE DARK, new book by german

Postby darkbeforedawn » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:53 am

So far it seems these "terrorists" activities have been stopped. Gore Vidal recently posited that it is the military in revolt against neocons that have prevented another false flag operation of major proportions here. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: wayne madesen on WAR IN THE DARK, new book by german

Postby Dreams End » Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:28 am

Oh good, a German book about a Jewish conspiracy to rule the world.<br><br>Something missing in that analysis. Why don't we go see who funded Muslim Brotherhood, the ideological forebears of some of these suspect movements. <br><br>Why don't we ask, "Did Israel create the Mujahadeen?".<br><br>Please wake up and stop posting stuff that says the U.S. military intel establishment are good guys bravely resisting the all powerful Israel. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Perhaps you need to face reality

Postby darkbeforedawn » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:00 pm

I would be a lot more sceptical of this stuff if Vidal hadn't also voiced this opinion. Face it DE there a LOT of issues that involve Israel instigating the conflagration in the middle east and many of them DO involve falseflag attacks. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: wayne madesen on WAR IN THE DARK, new book by german

Postby rocco33 » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:24 pm

DE, I know you're a big vet around here and well-respected, but many of my mothers relatives live in Germany. They are taught shame from pre-school. To imply that because what happened during the Nazi regime would discredit this book without you reading it isn't fair.<br><br>IF you want a good idea of how Germans are indoctrinated, just read the Der Spiegel interview with Ahmadinejad where no more than 4 German journalists interviewed him. You'd of thought they were Israelis the way they came off in the interview. <br><br>I don't see Madsen aiming him guns at any particular country in a regular and systematic manner. He goes after everyone. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Perhaps you need to face reality

Postby medicis » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:34 pm

Over the years I have become much more willing to believe elements of the Israeli government are directly behind or complictly behind a bunch of crap around the world. Fascists come in all religions, all cultures, all governments. <br><br>Half of my family is Jewish so I won't accept the Anti-Semitic bs argument. I don't think Israelis are bent on world dom. Nor, obviously, Jews. But I fully believe a segment of that society is perfectly in concord with those who are. <br><br>David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Perhaps you need to face reality

Postby starviego » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:54 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Israel's covert program to provoke violence among Muslims in Western Europe and engage in "false flag" operations in order for Western governments to blame Muslim radicals.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> Not to be confused with NATO's covert program in the '60s and '70s to provoke hysteria among the commoners in Western Europe and engage in "false flag" operations in order for Western governments to blame left-wingers; under the auspices of "Operation Gladio," resulting in the deaths of hundreds of innocent victims, for example the Bologna train station bombing or the Brabant supermarket killers, among others. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Perhaps you need to face reality

Postby Dreams End » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:19 am

Madsen has been pushing the neocon/Israel thing from the beginning. <br><br>He has ALSO advocated...REPEATEDLY...for a military coup to right the wrongs these neocon dual loyalists have wrought.<br><br>You do the math. <p></p><i></i>
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A vote here for free speech and posting

Postby darkbeforedawn » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:22 am

The "math" you speak of is clearly referring to loyalties and ties to different factions all of which are criminal. I don't know to what extent Madsen is "paid for" or whose agenda he is working out. But it is crystal clear that the agenda now being pursued by the leaders in control of Israel is antidemocratic, genocidal and designed to shore up an imperialistic hegemony chiefly based among transnational corpofascists that have taken control in US and elsewhere. As you have pointed out numerous times the "enemies of my enemies" are an unknown quantity. That doesn't mean he doesn't have some good information on the people we all have cause to fear and despise. I still read him, but I am not saying I believe what he says--just taking it in. If you have any new information proving that the Israeli agenda is not what it appears to be, I will read that too <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A vote here for free speech and posting

Postby rocco33 » Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:49 pm

True, he has brought up Israel, or more so the far-right political machinations of the Likud and Zionists who are running things. But he has also brought up, numerous times, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Ukraine, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Jordan, etc. I will admit I see an in-flux of focus on IL lately. But overall, I wouldn't say he targets them specifically. <br><br>My "math" says he's just "following the money". Isn't that what got Gary Webb killed? Wasn't he still "following the money" in the South and Central American drug game? Where do you think that money trail really ends? Reminds me of that scene where Michael Corleone sits down with Meyer Lansky in Cuba. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A vote here for free speech and posting

Postby Dreams End » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:50 pm

Gary Webb didn't call for a military takeover that I recall. <br><br>Madsen and all the other newly activist spooks tell us all that it is all the neocons fault. Iraq, even at 650,000 dead is STILL not the worst US atrocity...many of which were committed before the neocons were alleged to be running our country. It is completely consistent with US policy over the decades and even centuries. The attempt to deflect blame only on to this little group is clever. Meanwhile...it's the SAVIORS who are pushing the divided Iraq solution. Which was the goal all along.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A vote here for free speech and posting

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:26 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Meanwhile...it's the SAVIORS who are pushing the divided Iraq solution. Which was the goal all along.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br><br>Sorry, DE, I'm going to disagree with you on this tiny little piece here, if we can agree that the so-called "neo-cons" are the right-winged Israeli Jews. I think partitioning Iraq is their wet dream come to life, especially if they can "annex" Khurdistan for their own purposes. Only problemo is Turkey. Ok, ok, Cheney and his ilk are neo-cons, too, but this little piece isn't about them, this is their concession to the reich-winger Israelis for their cooperation in THE BIGGER PLAN. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 10/27/06 10:31 pm<br></i>
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Re: A vote here for free speech and posting

Postby Dreams End » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:03 am

No...it'll be the new James Baker commission that will push it. Even the local Dem for Senate here in Tennessee is calling for it. Hardly a neocon.<br><br>Divided Iraq plus a fat, military/intel base in Baghdad, mucho bucks for all the military contractors and weapons makers, dividing up of the oil fields...plenty of motivation for the US to be into this idea. I just don't get why people think that the US is in Iraq because against our national interest. As perceived by the mega rich...it's perfectly consistent. In fact, how do you even think Kuwait was born? An English General in the twenties had a cuppa and drew a line on a map that cut Iraq off from the sea and installed a family who subsequently got their own seat at the UN. <br><br>And you should familiarize yourself with CIA machinations among the Kurds...promoting rebellion, promising support, allowing slaughter...rinse and repeat.<br><br>If Israel did not exist, details would differ but the overall strategy would be similar. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A vote here for free speech and posting

Postby darkbeforedawn » Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:16 pm

So Israel is just an innocent bystander? The following article illustrates how Israel is working hand in glove with other corpo fascists in the race to irradicate indigenous populations with any means available. <br>Robert Fisk: Mystery of Israel's secret uranium bomb <br><br>Alarm over radioactive legacy left by attack on Lebanon <br><br>Published: 28 October 2006 <br><br>Did Israel use a secret new uranium-based weapon in southern Lebanon this summer in the 34-day assault that cost more than 1,300 Lebanese lives, most of them civilians? <br><br>We know that the Israelis used American "bunker-buster" bombs on Hizbollah's Beirut headquarters. We know that they drenched southern Lebanon with cluster bombs in the last 72 hours of the war, leaving tens of thousands of bomblets which are still killing Lebanese civilians every week. And we now know - after it first categorically denied using such munitions - that the Israeli army also used phosphorous bombs, weapons which are supposed to be restricted under the third protocol of the Geneva Conventions, which neither Israel nor the United States have signed. <br><br>But scientific evidence gathered from at least two bomb craters in Khiam and At-Tiri, the scene of fierce fighting between Hizbollah guerrillas and Israeli troops last July and August, suggests that uranium-based munitions may now also be included in Israel's weapons inventory - and were used against targets in Lebanon. According to Dr Chris Busby, the British Scientific Secretary of the European Committee on Radiation Risk, two soil samples thrown up by Israeli heavy or guided bombs showed "elevated radiation signatures". Both have been forwarded for further examination to the Harwell laboratory in Oxfordshire for mass spectrometry - used by the Ministry of Defence - which has confirmed the concentration of uranium isotopes in the samples. <br><br>Dr Busby's initial report states that there are two possible reasons for the contamination. "The first is that the weapon was some novel small experimental nuclear fission device or other experimental weapon (eg, a thermobaric weapon) based on the high temperature of a uranium oxidation flash ... The second is that the weapon was a bunker-busting conventional uranium penetrator weapon employing enriched uranium rather than depleted uranium." A photograph of the explosion of the first bomb shows large clouds of black smoke that might result from burning uranium. <br><br>Enriched uranium is produced from natural uranium ore and is used as fuel for nuclear reactors. A waste productof the enrichment process is depleted uranium, it is an extremely hard metal used in anti-tank missiles for penetrating armour. Depleted uranium is less radioactive than natural uranium, which is less radioactive than enriched uranium. <br><br>Israel has a poor reputation for telling the truth about its use of weapons in Lebanon. In 1982, it denied using phosphorous munitions on civilian areas - until journalists discovered dying and dead civilians whose wounds caught fire when exposed to air. <br><br>I saw two dead babies who, when taken from a mortuary drawer in West Beirut during the Israeli siege of the city, suddenly burst back into flames. Israel officially denied using phosphorous again in Lebanon during the summer - except for "marking" targets - even after civilians were photographed in Lebanese hospitals with burn wounds consistent with phosphorous munitions. <br><br>Then on Sunday, Israel suddenly admitted that it had not been telling the truth. Jacob Edery, the Israeli minister in charge of government-parliament relations, confirmed that phosphorous shells were used in direct attacks against Hizbollah, adding that "according to international law, the use of phosphorous munitions is authorised and the (Israeli) army keeps to the rules of international norms". <br><br>Asked by The Independent if the Israeli army had been using uranium-based munitions in Lebanon this summer, Mark Regev, the Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman, said: "Israel does not use any weaponry which is not authorised by international law or international conventions." This, however, begs more questions than it answers. Much international law does not cover modern uranium weapons because they were not invented when humanitarian rules such as the Geneva Conventions were drawn up and because Western governments still refuse to believe that their use can cause long-term damage to the health of thousands of civilians living in the area of the explosions. <br><br>American and British forces used hundreds of tons of depleted uranium (DU) shells in Iraq in 1991 - their hardened penetrator warheads manufactured from the waste products of the nuclear industry - and five years later, a plague of cancers emerged across the south of Iraq. <br><br>Initial US military assessments warned of grave consequences for public health if such weapons were used against armoured vehicles. But the US administration and the British government later went out of their way to belittle these claims. Yet the cancers continued to spread amid reports that civilians in Bosnia - where DU was also used by Nato aircraft - were suffering new forms of cancer. DU shells were again used in the 2003 Anglo-American invasion of Iraq but it is too early to register any health effects. <br><br>"When a uranium penetrator hits a hard target, the particles of the explosion are very long-lived in the environment," Dr Busby said yesterday. "They spread over long distances. They can be inhaled into the lungs. The military really seem to believe that this stuff is not as dangerous as it is." Yet why would Israel use such a weapon when its targets - in the case of Khiam, for example - were only two miles from the Israeli border? The dust ignited by DU munitions can be blown across international borders, just as the chlorine gas used in attacks by both sides in the First World War often blew back on its perpetrators. <br><br>Chris Bellamy, the professor of military science and doctrine at Cranfield University, who has reviewed the Busby report, said: "At worst it's some sort of experimental weapon with an enriched uranium component the purpose of which we don't yet know. At best - if you can say that - it shows a remarkably cavalier attitude to the use of nuclear waste products." <br><br>The soil sample from Khiam - site of a notorious torture prison when Israel occupied southern Lebanon between 1978 and 2000, and a frontline Hizbollah stronghold in the summer war - was a piece of impacted red earth from an explosion; the isotope ratio was 108, indicative of the presence of enriched uranium. "The health effects on local civilian populations following the use of large uranium penetrators and the large amounts of respirable uranium oxide particles in the atmosphere," the Busby report says, "are likely to be significant ... we recommend that the area is examined for further traces of these weapons with a view to clean up." <br><br>This summer's Lebanon war began after Hizbollah guerrillas crossed the Lebanese frontier into Israel, captured two Israeli soldiers and killed three others, prompting Israel to unleash a massive bombardment of Lebanon's villages, cities, bridges and civilian infrastructure. Human rights groups have said that Israel committed war crimes when it attacked civilians, but that Hizbollah was also guilty of such crimes because it fired missiles into Israel which were also filled with ball-bearings, turning their rockets into primitive one-time-only cluster bombs. <br><br>Many Lebanese, however, long ago concluded that the latest Lebanon war was a weapons testing ground for the Americans and Iranians, who respectively supply Israel and Hizbollah with munitions. Just as Israel used hitherto-unproven US missiles in its attacks, so the Iranians were able to test-fire a rocket which hit an Israeli corvette off the Lebanese coast, killing four Israeli sailors and almost sinking the vessel after it suffered a 15-hour on-board fire. <br><br>What the weapons manufacturers make of the latest scientific findings of potential uranium weapons use in southern Lebanon is not yet known. Nor is their effect on civilians. <br><br>LINK<br><br>3 comments <br><br><br><br> Only comments<br><br>Article and comments<br> Comments per page 10 50 100 All <br><br> <br><br> Propaganda second order<br>by heckmanns on 28.10.2006 [10:28 ] <br> <br>Let someone appear as being an opponent of official propaganda. <br><br>Let him attract the would-be dissidents. <br><br>Let him feed them the official propaganda in a way they may like. <br><br>Result: no dissidents.<br><br> <br><br>heckmanns<br>by Syrian on 28.10.2006 [11:20 ] <br> <br>Exactly. <br><br>But that only works against stupid dissidents who follow leaders like sheep.<br><br> <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=darkbeforedawn>darkbeforedawn</A> at: 10/28/06 1:21 pm<br></i>
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Re: A vote here for free speech and posting

Postby Dreams End » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:16 pm

It is just fascinating how I can say the same thing over and over and not be heard. Listen carefully.<br><br>You can list all the bad things that Israel has done. These do not mean Israel is telling the US what to do. It's real simple. <br><br>If Israel were a socialist utopia, it would not be tightly allied with the US. In fact, it would not even exist any longer. But that is a separate issue. Madsen wants you only to look at neocons and to believe that not only are they the architects of US policy but that the rest of US elites have helplessly caved in, powerless to stop the Israeli/neocon juggernaut. <br><br>My point is that if this were the case, one way to test that would be to see if there had been a substantial change in US foreign policy. I have shown clearly, as any history book will also do, that there has been no such change. There were no neocons steering us into the Spanish American war and subsequent slaughter of Filipinos. There were no neocons hijacking the government and steering us into Korea (unless you have a better understanding of who the neocons really are, their relationship to the Congress of Cultural Freedom, the effort by CIA and others to create an anti-socialist left, etc....but that story is wasted here.)<br><br>No neocons told us to invade Vietnam. Panama. No neocons ordered the overthrow of Arbenz, leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths. No neocons were behind the overthrow of Allende and the fascist reign of terror that ensued. It was not the neocons who plotted with Indonesian generals to install Suharto and provide him with names of communists, leading to the slaughter of at least half a million people. <br><br>These were all courtesy of imperialism and the growing national security state. That's your enemy. Now go get 'em, tiger. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dreamsend@rigorousintuition>Dreams End</A> at: 10/28/06 8:28 pm<br></i>
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